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Priests scuffle at Church of Nativity
mideast.jpost.com ^ | Dec 27, 2007

Posted on 12/27/2007 8:42:38 AM PST by Gamecock

Robed Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests went at each other with brooms and stones inside the Church of the Nativity on Thursday as long-standing rivalries erupted in violence during holiday cleaning.


Orthodox and Armenian priests clash
in the Church of the Nativity two days after Christmas.

The basilica, built over the grotto in Bethlehem where Christians believe Jesus was born, is administered jointly by Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Armenian Apostolic authorities. Any perceived encroachment on one group's turf can set off vicious feuds.

On Thursday, dozens of priests and cleaners came to the fortress-like church to scrub and sweep the floors, walls and rafters ahead of the Armenian and Orthodox Christmas, celebrated in the first week of January. Thousands of tourists visited the church this week for Christmas celebrations.

But the cleanup turned ugly after some of the Orthodox faithful stepped inside the Armenian church's section, touching off a scuffle between about 50 Greek Orthodox and 30 Armenians.

Palestinian police, armed with batons and shields, quickly formed a human cordon to separate the two sides so the cleaning could continue, then ordered an Associated Press photographer out of the church.

Four people, some with blood running from their faces, were slightly wounded.


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: armenians; greeks; israel; priests; scuffle
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1 posted on 12/27/2007 8:42:41 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Alex Murphy; Larry Lucido

You can’t make this stuff up.


2 posted on 12/27/2007 8:43:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Gamecock

This happened a few years ago.I remember seeing video on it.


3 posted on 12/27/2007 8:45:55 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs for Christmas:))
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To: Gamecock
But the cleanup turned ugly after some of the Orthodox faithful stepped inside the Armenian church's section, touching off a scuffle between about 50 Greek Orthodox and 30 Armenians.

Palestinian police, armed with batons and shields, quickly formed a human cordon to separate the two sides so the cleaning could continue

The irony -- Palestinians are the peacemakers in the war of religion...

4 posted on 12/27/2007 8:47:16 AM PST by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Gamecock

“Blood running from their faces” hardly sounds like slightly wounded.


5 posted on 12/27/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Gamecock

Oh grow up!

I’m beginning to think these places should be locked up until the priests and monks learn to act like followers of Christ and not bratty children in the back seat of the car.


6 posted on 12/27/2007 9:02:56 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Gamecock; Larry Lucido

Father-priest: Are you familiar with Orthodox theology?

George: Well perhaps, not to the extent that you are. But I know the basic plot.

Father-priest: Plot?

George: Yeah, yeah. You know the uh flood, and the uh lepers, and the commandments and all that.


7 posted on 12/27/2007 9:04:07 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Wasn’t there actually a thread about this exact thing a few years back? What, is this an annual event now?


8 posted on 12/27/2007 9:13:16 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Cagey; Gamecock; MotleyGirl70; Mr. Brightside; jdm; Rb ver. 2.0

They were fighting over Sister Roberta. That kavorka is strong.


9 posted on 12/27/2007 9:15:49 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Larry Lucido; John123
Seems that a few years ago some Palestinians took 60 priests hostage.
10 posted on 12/27/2007 9:51:56 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Gamecock
C’mon Christians, wake up, smell the coffee, and GROW UP for a change. This is the 21st century, not the middle ages. At a time when Islamofacism is a bigger threat to the ancient Christian community in the Holy Land, we still get this nonsense at the Church of the Nativity and in the spring at the Church of the Holy Sephucur.
11 posted on 12/27/2007 1:42:18 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Gamecock
If only they would read the Free Republic religion forum and see how beautifully Christians of differing faiths can interact.

Not.

No.......wait.......they've been reading Free Republic.

Of course.......it all makes sense!

12 posted on 12/27/2007 2:44:46 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: sandyeggo; Alex Murphy
Awww, the photographer got my bad side.
14 posted on 12/28/2007 12:48:59 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Why can’t this stuff happen at one of those mega churches or TBN? Paula, Benny, Jan, Joel... what pay-per-view potential. Imagine the ruined hair and manicures. It would be like watching the apocalypse.


15 posted on 12/28/2007 1:07:48 AM PST by Ezekiel
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To: Gamecock

I am neither Orthodox nor Armenian, but posting this article is nothing but a cheap shot designed to do...what...exactly? We could all dig up ridiculous, embarrassing and scandalous articles to post about each other’s confessional allegiances, but what would that prove or disprove? What of the thousands of seekers and otherwise unaligned lurkers on these threads? Do you suppose that such foolish antics as what transpired in Bethlehem, or the reporting of the same on this religion forum, serves them in their walk toward Christ? The posting of this article shows no wisdom, as is the case when any of us post articles designed to trash one group of Christians, yet ultimately succeeding only to the detriment of Christianity as a whole.


16 posted on 12/28/2007 9:05:03 AM PST by magisterium
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To: Gamecock

This is just disgraceful. I’m sure Our Lord is just so proud of these guys....


17 posted on 12/28/2007 9:15:42 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: magisterium

A cheap shot?

This is a place that is important to all Christians and these guys are acting like idiots and my posting the article is a cheap shot????

I suppose we should all just bury our collective heads in the sand and ignore Priests Behaving Badly? Isn’t that what got one large well known Church in big trouble a few years ago?


18 posted on 12/28/2007 10:40:44 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Gamecock

Disingenuousness is not terribly becoming. Happy New Year to you.


19 posted on 12/28/2007 1:04:55 PM PST by magisterium
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To: magisterium

Neither is surliness.

Right back at you.


20 posted on 12/29/2007 5:40:56 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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