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Satanic sects in the Vatican
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 8th January 2008 | Chris Gillibrand

Posted on 01/08/2008 4:04:00 PM PST by Gillibrand

Don Gabriele Amorth is the busiest exorcist in Europe. His job is to keep the Roman Pontiff free of demons. This is because, says the priest, the devil is abroad in the Vatican. SPIEGEL Author Alexander Smoltczyk has visited the priest - and to test out any demons.

Rome - Everything goes wrong today. First, the Roman taxi drivers strike without any warning. Even the address specified cannot be found on the map plan of the city. Then the photographer calls and says that his camera had not charged. He must dismantle and repair it. All seems jinxed. "You are an hour late," is the first sentence of Father Gabriele Amorth. He smiles.

Don Gabriele is the Chief Exorcist of the Diocese of Rome and hence the caster out of devils responsible to the Bishop of Rome, Pope Benedict XVI. The 82-year-old priest is in a cassock with 33 buttons. He is almost bald, the double chin hangs down, a little like a Basset. For Father Amorth, the devil is not a metaphor but daily practice, office hours being from 9 to 16.30. "I am the only Exorcist, seven days a week, from morning until the afternoon, including Christmas Eve and Easter. I have in 21 years performed more than 70,000 exorcisms. Even when I was younger, I managed an average of fifteen, sixteen exorcisms a day. Now, I have slowed down a little."

(Excerpt) Read more at cathcon.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Prayer; Theology
KEYWORDS: aloisestermann; amorth; catholic; cedrictornay; emanuelaorlandi; enricodepedis; exorcism; exorcist; exorcists; gabrielamorth; pope; romancatholicism; rome; vatican
Interview translated from German
1 posted on 01/08/2008 4:04:02 PM PST by Gillibrand
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To: Gillibrand

Catholic Caucus?


2 posted on 01/08/2008 4:07:38 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Gillibrand

“I have in 21 years performed more than 70,000 exorcisms.”

Wow, and he hasn’t even met Hillary Clinton yet.

:)


3 posted on 01/08/2008 6:28:26 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Hilary would be a test case for this priest. :)


4 posted on 01/08/2008 7:07:30 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Pyro7480; Gillibrand; vladimir998

“This is because, says the priest, the devil is abroad in the Vatican.”

Great holiness always attracts great and powerful demons; the greater the holiness, the more powerful and dangerous the demons. This is readily apparent to those whom the Evil One has not succeeded in convincing he doesn’t exist.


5 posted on 01/08/2008 7:16:13 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: vladimir998

Zing!


6 posted on 01/08/2008 7:41:24 PM PST by AdAltareDei (Introibo ad altare Dei.)
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To: Gillibrand
"Interview translated from German"

And, judging by the headline, BADLY translated. The fact that Satan's gremlins are causing mischief does NOT translate into "Satanic sects in the Vatican" (though I suspect that, these days, many suspect that the Jesuits qualify).

7 posted on 01/09/2008 7:42:17 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: vladimir998
The vatican needs to send exorcists to anywhere there are scientologists. Holding onto a pair of tin cans attached to an E-meter and pouring out ones fears and foibles to a fellow human being doesnt work the same as a true confession in the name of Jesus. Being 'clear' isn't the same as being forgiven for ones sins and having a 'cleared conscience' due to the graces of Jesus.

Pity the poor fools who pay good money: millions and millions (Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Gretta Van Sustern) to be pronounced 'clear'. The only way they can truly be 'clear' is to pray for forgiveness, repent and do penance of their sins.

Demons can be expelled and deleted in the name of Christ - not in the name of Elron Hubbard.

8 posted on 01/09/2008 8:23:02 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: x_plus_one
"The vatican needs to send exorcists to anywhere there are scientologists."

Agreed, but I always thought that the person has to want his freedom.

9 posted on 01/09/2008 10:43:39 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: Gillibrand

I really did not see how the Nativity movie conflicted with my Catholic values and beliefs and I have read what more conservative Catholic writers had to say on it.


10 posted on 01/18/2008 9:10:29 PM PST by RGPII (I'm for the Law and Order candidate.)
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To: Kolokotronis

“This is because, says the priest, the devil is abroad in the Vatican.” Lucifer is a man's name I would think.

11 posted on 01/18/2008 9:12:40 PM PST by RGPII (I'm for the Law and Order candidate.)
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To: RGPII

” “This is because, says the priest, the devil is abroad in the Vatican.” Lucifer is a man’s name I would think.”

Nope. Its the frustration level that drives her to extremes.


12 posted on 01/19/2008 5:11:39 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: RGPII
“This is because, says the priest, the devil is abroad in the Vatican.”
Lucifer is a man's name I would think.

Well, if they had more broads maybe they would let the little kids alone.

13 posted on 01/19/2008 5:19:33 AM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

The guy in the tombs didn’t want his freedom, and Jesus cleaned that boy out!

Neither did the kid that was continually being thrown into the fire.

The Bible instructs us to cast demons out. It doesn’t give us requirements as far as I know- just to do it.


14 posted on 01/19/2008 5:26:39 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: vladimir998
Billary is in need of severe spiritual intervention. The drug culture is part and parcel of spiritual dark forces influencing the human soul.

Newsrooms, congressional offices, and institutions of higher education could all use an in-house exorcist.

15 posted on 01/19/2008 5:58:23 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: ovrtaxt
You cast out demons in the name of Jesus. His name does the trick . Some are harder to do than others - it's a time thing. A lot of grief is due to the wanton roaming of bad spirits but not in the same sense of the Scientology narrative. Some spirits refuse to leave and take years to banish. But it's all done in the name of Jesus since he is the head honcho of the spirit world and is the chief law enforcement officer of the great beyond.

All this is written in various places - some in the bible, some in writings of the great exorcists.

Families are haunted for generations by the same spirits. The latest pope has written about the loss of understanding and loss of acknowledgement of the 'spiritual world'. B16 has hit the nail on the head. "Modern' secularists can't grasp anything they can't hear, see, smell or touch. Nevermind that dogs can see in the infra-red, raptors can see in the ultra-violet and any outdoor animal has a superior sense of smell to indoor human noses.

The world of the spirit is largely ignored by all since they dont see any of its direct influence. Thank the lord there are still those who know evil when they see it and know what to do about it...

16 posted on 01/19/2008 6:07:51 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: Gillibrand
Sounds like...

Mat 12:43 "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.
Mat 12:44 "Then it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came'; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order.
Mat 12:45 "Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation."

The question to ponder is why is the house empty? What makes it so attractive to demons?

17 posted on 01/19/2008 6:23:16 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Well if this was said by christ then it was before his peace was given to the world upon his resurrection. The peace of christ is the spiritual "invisible" umbrella that protects us from all things spiritual - good bad or indifferent. It is his peace that prevents unclean spirits from re-entering the well swept house....He gave us the power to reject or accept all things spiritual. He gave us freedom of choice.
18 posted on 01/19/2008 6:27:31 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: x_plus_one
Well if this was said by christ then it was before his peace was given to the world upon his resurrection. The peace of christ is the spiritual "invisible" umbrella that protects us from all things spiritual - good bad or indifferent. It is his peace that prevents unclean spirits from re-entering the well swept house....He gave us the power to reject or accept all things spiritual. He gave us freedom of choice

I would say that's a correct assessment. Those who have their houses filled by Christ, by his holy spirit, won't have to depend on exorcists to rid them of demons. There's no room for them.

19 posted on 01/19/2008 8:18:14 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Well if this was said by christ then it was before his peace was given to the world upon his resurrection. The peace of christ is the spiritual "invisible" umbrella that protects us from all things spiritual - good bad or indifferent. It is his peace that prevents unclean spirits from re-entering the well swept house....He gave us the power to reject or accept all things spiritual. He gave us freedom of choice

I would say that's a correct assessment. Those who have their houses filled by Christ, by his holy spirit, won't have to depend on exorcists to rid them of demons. There's no room for them.

I'll bet you can get one of those invisible umbrellas at the same place you can get a personal relationship with Christ.

23 posted on 01/19/2008 10:53:56 AM PST by RGPII
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I would say that's a correct assessment. Those who have their houses filled by Christ, by his holy spirit, won't have to depend on exorcists to rid them of demons. There's no room for them. I'll bet you can get one of those invisible umbrellas at the same place you can get a personal relationship with Christ.

I don't particularly like the phrase "personal relationship with Christ" because it's so overused as to lose it's meaning...if it ever had one. I do have a personal relationship, but it's based upon following and learning his ways. He's the leader, I'm the follower. I don't have anything to give to the "relationship" other than my obedience.

24 posted on 01/19/2008 12:37:49 PM PST by DouglasKC
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