Thompson gets National Right to Life endorsement

National Right to Life ^ | November 13, 2007 | Klaus Marre

[supercat]

Don’t be fooled by politicians who say that any individual OR STATE has any right to practice or allow abortion. They don’t.

Allowing states to decide the issue for themselves would be an improvement on the status quo, and would likely be a necessary intermediate step toward getting a pro-life amendment ratified.

Further, I would posit that just as states have the authority to declare under what circumstances homicides are "justifiable", so too they would--absent a Constitutional amendment--retain the authority to render such decisions for abortion. Would you take away states' authority in the former instance?

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[NeoCaveman]

Fred is the man.

Come on South Carolina and shock the world.

[EternalVigilance]

The idea that any state can alienate the God-given right to life is anathema to the cornerstone principle upon which American liberty is based.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."

Blackmun predicated Roe on the lie that unborn children are not persons.

Is an unborn child a person?

[EternalVigilance]

The only time abortion is in any way “justifiable” is when the life of the mother is threatened.

C. Everett Coop, Ronald Reagan’s Surgeon General, said that in his decades of experience delivering babies, he never saw a case like that.

[Salvation]

**C. Everett Coop, Ronald Reagan’s Surgeon General, said that in his decades of experience delivering babies, he never saw a case like that.**

That has always been my belief too.

BTW, thanks for your posts here.

[EternalVigilance]

I’m thankful that we have a forum like this where we can at least reach some with the truth of this most critical life-and-death matter. God bless you, Salvation.

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[TomB]

The Reagan Republican prolife platform spells out how we overturn Roe and forever end the heinous practice of abortion in America: enforce a policy that recognizes the personhood of the unborn!

I hold Reagan in the highest esteem. IMO he was the greatest president of the century. However, I'd like to point out to you that he was president for 8 years and abortion is still legal.

Some people here have a distorted view of the presidency. You aren't electing a dictator or emperor. They have real limits on their power. And no matter how much they want abortion gone, it isn't in their power to abolish it.

[EternalVigilance]

Every President, every elected official, raises their right hand and swears to uphold and defend the Constitution. First, in order to even keep that oath, they must interpret it, wouldn’t you say? And, once they have, they have an obligation to follow it, no matter what the other two co-equal branches might do or say.

[TomB]

Every President, every elected official, raises their right hand and swears to uphold and defend the Constitution. First, in order to even keep that oath, they must interpret it, wouldn’t you say? And, once they have, they have an obligation to follow it, no matter what the other two co-equal branches might do or say.

In all honesty, I have absolutely NO IDEA what that has to do with my post.

[EternalVigilance]

If a President believes that an unborn child is a person, they have a sworn obligation to uphold the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

[TomB]

If a President believes that an unborn child is a person, they have a sworn obligation to uphold the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

And do what?

[EternalVigilance]

And do what?

"...re-establish within the executive branch respect for, and protection of, the unalienable rights of the unborn children in the womb – to make sure nothing was done by the executive branch of the United States that violated the Constitution of the United States in this regard." - Alan Keyes

[rhema]

The second link is a search on FReeRepublic that shows a lot of state Right to Life chapters also endorsing Thompson.

Minnesota's MCCL is one of them.

[supercat]

The only time abortion is in any way “justifiable” is when the life of the mother is threatened.

One may use deadly force against an adult, at least in some states, even when one's life is not at stake. Should states not have the authority to permit such?

Before a constitutional pro-life amendment can be ratified, it will almost certainly necessary for 38 states to have enacted strong pro-life legislation. States aren't apt to enact such legislation unless or until it becomes clear the federal government will honor their authority to do so.

Do you see any realistic means of getting a pro-life amendment ratified that would not first require states to be allowed to pass their own legislation?

[TomB]

You seem to be avoiding the question. I want to know what, specifically, a president would do to overturn Roe v. Wade. Considering Ronald Reagan, a champion of the pro-life movement, was unable to do anything.

[supercat]

"...re-establish within the executive branch respect for, and protection of, the unalienable rights of the unborn children in the womb – to make sure nothing was done by the executive branch of the United States that violated the Constitution of the United States in this regard." - Alan Keyes

I suppose that the president could perhaps forbid the actual disbursement of any federal funds toward those providing abortions, but I can't see any ability for him to do anything else. What else could he do--have people arrested for performing abortions notwithstanding the fact that there would be no legal basis for such arrest?

[EternalVigilance]

There are a multitude of things that can be done. I choose not to address the specifics now. You’ll have to leave it to your imagination.