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Ministers and money (Osteen, Warren, and other Rich preachers)
Times Leader ^ | 3-22-08 | Mark I Pinsky

Posted on 03/22/2008 8:14:21 AM PDT by Terriergal

TV preacher Joel Osteen shuns lavish lifestyle of some others

MARK I. PINSKY The Orlando Sentinel

ORLANDO, Fla. — If the evangelical world is looking for a poster child to offset the negative publicity surrounding rich televangelists, Joel Osteen would be a good choice.

Joel Osteen, pastor of the nation’s largest megachurch, preaches at Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, where services are broadcast around the world.

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Osteen is among the nation’s most widely recognized television ministers, trailing only Billy Graham and Rick Warren, and in 2006 was named the most influential Christian in America by readers of Church Report magazine.

The contrast is stark between Osteen and the six televangelists suspected by Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley of living lavish lifestyles — large estates, vacation homes, exotic trips, luxury cars and private jets — at the expense of their tax-exempt, television ministries. Among the accused are Paula and Randy White of Tampa, Fla., and Benny Hinn, formerly of Orlando, Fla.

Author Herbert E. Brown, in his 2001 book, characterized such high-living pastors as “pimps in the pulpit.”

Osteen lives a much different life.

He has not taken a salary from his Houston mega-church for two years. He owns one house, the same one he has lived in for 13 years, and until recently he drove a 9-year-old car he inherited from his late father.

While on road trips, Osteen pays his own hotel bills, and there is no private jet.

Although the upbeat minister does take collections at services, netting an estimated $43 million a year, Osteen does not ask for money on his television broadcasts, which reach an estimated 7 million viewers weekly in the United States and 100 other countries. Nonetheless, another $30 million comes through the mail. His most recent book deal earned him a $13 million advance.

“We make plenty of money from our books,” said Osteen, 44. “But we just live normal lives. We try to be conservative and honor God with our life and with our example.”

Osteen refuses to condemn the targets of Grassley’s inquiry, or Richard Roberts, who stepped down as president of Oral Roberts University in Oklahoma City amid charges that he used school funds and facilities for his family.

“While I never like to hear negative things about friends and other ministers, I choose to believe the very best in them,” said Osteen. “I believe them all to be people of integrity.”

Osteen leads the 48,000-member Lakewood Church in Houston, based at the Compaq Center, which the non-denominational congregation renovated at a cost of $100 million.

A best-selling author of religious and inspirational books, Osteen’s services border on the nonsectarian, with no crosses in evidence. His theology is more inspirational than theological, with a strong emphasis on self-help, in the feel-good tradition of Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Schuller. Osteen speaks from a lectern he prefers to call a “podium,” rather than a “pulpit.” His books are filled with lots of exclamation points, but the word “Jesus” rarely appears.

Osteen’s first book, “Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential,” sold millions of copies. His latest, “Become a Better You: 7 Keys to Improving Your Life Every Day,” is on the New York Times best seller list, and propelled him onto “60 Minutes” and “Larry King Live,” as well as several magazine covers.

In his latest book, Osteen points to himself as an example of unlocking hidden potential. A college dropout with no formal preparation for ministry, he preached for the first time when his father, who founded Lakewood Church, became ill and died. For the preceding 17 years, Joel Osteen had worked behind the scenes in production at the television ministry.

The success of these books raises questions about how religious figures should handle the millions of dollars in royalties and contributions.

Osteen is not the only prominent religious figure who tries to navigate these issues and, by doing so, differentiate himself from such controversies.

Warren, for example, has repaid every dollar he has earned in the pulpit of Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif., and pledged to give away 90 percent of his book royalties. He accepts no speaking fees, and is not as reluctant as Osteen to criticize those who are less altruistic.

“Success in any area often creates a spirit of entitlement — ‘I deserve this’ — that is the exact opposite of servant leadership,” Warren said.

“It is evidence of insecurity and low-self esteem. Insecure people show off. Secure people serve.”

Osteen agrees, offering his own definition of the prosperity gospel.

“I never preach a message on money,” he said. “I do believe that God wants us to be blessed, to have good marriages, to have peace in our minds, to have health, to have money to pay our bills. I think God wants us to excel. But everyone isn’t going to be rich — if we’re talking about money.”

“I never preach a message on money. I do believe that God wants us to be blessed, to have good marriages, to have peace in our minds, to have health, to have money to pay our bills. I think God wants us to excel. But everyone isn’t going to be rich — if we’re talking about money.”Joel Osteen
Television minister



TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: billygraham; houston; megachurch; osteen; pastor; rickwarren; televangelist
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To: svcw

The Coral Ridge Hour is on TBN.


21 posted on 03/22/2008 10:28:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I do not know what that is.


22 posted on 03/22/2008 10:38:45 AM PDT by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: AppyPappy
Come on, all of you have not laid a glove on Joel. I watch him every Sunday Evening, and have not yet found one thing to complain about. You don't need a formal Religious Education to preach. Look at the Motley Crew Jesus gather around himself. I look at the number of people Joel has in attendance every Sunday, Rick Warren is also not taking a salary from his church.It would appear to me that the message these people deliver is what the public wants to hear. They want a message to help them get through another week , to help them meet the trials and tribulations of life, and someone to remind them that this life we lead is just for a very short time, and that we will spend eternity in a life beyond this one, and we should attempt to prepare for this next life. For you doubters, you should read Rick Warren's ( A Purpose driven Life)/ So don't be beating on Joel, or Rick, spend your time preparing for your next life.
23 posted on 03/22/2008 10:47:11 AM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Terriergal

Your on a roll today. You go girl!!!!!


24 posted on 03/22/2008 10:48:00 AM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (I'm a happy man, I have a new battery for my remote control!!!)
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To: Terriergal
This article is strange. Osteen made $13M on one book alone and drives around in a 9-year old car? He hasn't taken a salary for 2 (count them) years (how much did he make from his books)? He doesn't fly around in "private" jets? How does he get around? Didn't his wife get thrown off a plane from first class? And while the article is entitled Osteen, Warren, and other Rich Preacher, its focus is on Osteen.

I don't begrudge ministers for making money. There is nothing in scripture that states pastors have to be poor. That being said, I hate to sound skeptical but there is something fishy in this article. While everything that is said in the article may be true, I suspect there is more to this story.

25 posted on 03/22/2008 1:08:50 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: P-Marlowe

There are several televangelists who preach the “Prosperity Gospel” that you are talking about, however Olsteen is much more conservative declaring what the Bible says about it which is in Malachi Ch 3:6-12.
I do not agree with the prosperity gospel, but I do believe in the universal laws God spoke into existence when he created the world. “You reap what you sow”, and if you sow tomato seeds, you get tomatoes. If you sow kindness you will reap kindess, and so on. So there is a law spoken into existence that brings a blessing down the road when you are a blessing. And that’s the points I have heard him make, although I don’t watch him regularly.


26 posted on 03/22/2008 4:24:49 PM PDT by Kackikat (.)
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To: AppyPappy

I have read the book, and its more about finding out how to make the most of your life while you are here, and finding your purpose so you will be happier. Some people are just plain negative and stubborn and refuse to enjoy life, and will never figure out why God placed them here. They are just too happy being a sourpuss.


27 posted on 03/22/2008 4:27:03 PM PDT by Kackikat (.)
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To: Kackikat

I like Joel Osteen. He does have the gift of encouragement and I have NEVER heard him ask for money.


28 posted on 03/23/2008 5:18:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: P-Marlowe

Vision posts Joel Osteen’s messages. I have found them to be very encouraging and I see very little, if any, emphasis on material things. Why don’t you ask her to send you some?


29 posted on 03/23/2008 5:20:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Osteen doesn’t push money or even talk about it. I’ve never heard him say one word about riches except those found in Christ.


30 posted on 03/23/2008 5:22:17 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: AppyPappy

Ever read the book? He’s talking about living your best life here on earth, Appy. Most of us don’t.


31 posted on 03/23/2008 5:23:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Kackikat

When we give God the First Fruits of our lives, whether it’s in tithes or time, He blesses us. He has to, it’s one of his principles.


32 posted on 03/23/2008 5:25:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

And how does he define his best life?


33 posted on 03/23/2008 6:45:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

I’ve only read a couple of chapters so far, but from his programs, our best life is being close to God, to be positive instead of always negative about our situations, to give to others, to be an encourager, to love your family and treat eachother with love and respect. You know, all the good Godly stuff we should be doing instead of mumbling, complaining, expecting the worst in everything.


34 posted on 03/24/2008 7:20:38 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Kackikat
There are several televangelists who preach the “Prosperity Gospel” that you are talking about, however Olsteen is much more conservative declaring what the Bible says about it which is in Malachi Ch 3:6-12.

I have heard sound clips of Osteen declaring that he gets first class upgrades on airplanes because God does this for him. I guess those clips were taken out of context like Rev. Wright's coments?

35 posted on 03/24/2008 9:11:49 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte

Hey, I get gifts and free stuff all the time because I believe in tithing and giving according to God’s word. So what’s your point? If you give regularly and tithe at church, then I am sure you are also being blessed but just don’t realize it.
To compare Osteen with Wright is like comparing daylight and darkness...silly. I think there are a lot of problems with certain types of preaching where money is concerned, and I think Wright’s Black Liberation Theology is just plain divisive and racist.
However I think God’s word is clear what he approves of and doesn’t, and I take my instruction from the Bible not a preacher. The KOOLAID drinkers got their eyes off Jesus and onto Jim Jones, and that’s why they ended up dead.


36 posted on 03/24/2008 11:47:08 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Terriergal

Reverend Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright drives a Porsche. I wonder what other finer things he has.


37 posted on 03/27/2008 2:57:41 PM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan

Check out his wrist. I’ll bet there’s a Rolex.


38 posted on 03/27/2008 2:58:38 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Shallow narcissistic meaningless old perv!)
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To: magellan
Whoot! Dere it is!


39 posted on 03/27/2008 3:02:27 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Shallow narcissistic meaningless old perv!)
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To: CholeraJoe
Check out Rev. GDA's new $1.6 million, 10,340 sq ft house:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/27/obamas-former-pastor-builds-a-multimillion-dollar-retirement-home/

40 posted on 03/28/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by magellan
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