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The Catholic Church Changed The Ten Commandments?
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Posted on 04/30/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Some Protestants accuse the Catholic Church of having dropped one of the 10 Commandments. "You're idolators! You worship statues! And because you do, your Church dropped the commandment against graven images!"

The truth, of course, is that the Catholic Church did not and could not change the Ten Commandments. Latin Catholics and Protestants simply list them differently. It is incredible that such a pernicious lie could be so easily spread and believed, especially since the truth could easily be determined by just looking into the matter. But the rumor lives.

Now, below are the ways in which Protestants and Roman Catholics enumerate the Commandments:

[See link above or below]

So what the heck? What did happen to the commandment about graven images in the Catholic listing? Did the Church just "drop" a commandment?

Um, no. The Old Testament was around long before the time of the Apostles, and the Decalogue, which is found in three different places in the Bible (Exodus 20 and Exodous 34 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21), has not been changed by the Catholic Church. Chapter and verse divisions are a medieval invention, however, and numbering systems of the Ten Words (Commandments), the manner in which they are grouped, and the "short-hand" used for them, vary among various religious groups. Exodus 20 is the version most often referred to when one speaks of the Ten Commandments, so it will be our reference point here....


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianity; tencommandments
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To: Quix

You still call it a “quite significant revenue source.” Admit it, you don’t have any idea how much income is generated by these cheap trinkets.

And how is that any different from the “Songs of Praise” CD’s hawked all over christian radio and television? How is it any different from the crosses, fish decals bumper stickers, etc. that are commonly bought by evangelicals. Is that “a significant revenue source” for your church?

Truly, I believe that your bigotry makes you a modern-day Pharisee.


141 posted on 05/03/2008 6:35:10 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

I’m keenly aware that you seem determined to be amongst the RC folks who believe all manner of untrue hogwash.


142 posted on 05/03/2008 5:04:29 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
However, the caricature of a jr god that the RC magicsterical turns them into is out of thin air...

Well, in the sense that you just made that all up, sure.

143 posted on 05/03/2008 5:07:11 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Quix

“I’m keenly aware that you seem determined to be amongst the RC folks who believe all manner of untrue hogwash.”

Yes, when you are incapable rational discussion, hurl the insults. Typical.


144 posted on 05/04/2008 6:44:14 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Quix

Saying a novena never cost me a cent.


145 posted on 05/05/2008 8:21:37 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Quix; paterfamilias; All

Knock off the personal attacks.


155 posted on 05/05/2008 11:02:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Aye Aye.


156 posted on 05/05/2008 11:22:43 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: kevinw; RexBeach
We are not supposed to pray to the saints. Praying to the saints is a pagan practice. We are supposed to pray directly to God the Father in the name of Jesus.

Amen. We need no intercessor other than Christ, all else is confusion. It causes me great discomfort to consider such a thing.

My foremost argument is that praying to saints diminishes our Lord. It is like He must be cajoled, or talked into taking actions for us- It takes away from His beneficence and benevolence, which is more than sufficient in His own right.

The point of Christ's sufferings was to reconcile us with the Father. He is the only Priest of the order of Melchizedek, He is the only legally recognized intercessor. He is omniscient, and omnipotent, the very head of all principalities and powers. Why must people busy themselves putting back the layers and hierarchies Christ gave His life to remove?

He is also our own Good Shepherd. Who will hear our bleatings when we are lost? Who would be more willing to find us, save us, heal us, and protect us? Why would He need to be convinced by any other of our needs?

157 posted on 05/05/2008 12:23:55 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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The point of Christ's sufferings was to reconcile us with the Father. He is the only Priest of the order of Melchizedek, He is the only legally recognized intercessor. He is omniscient, and omnipotent, the very head of all principalities and powers. Why must people busy themselves putting back the layers and hierarchies Christ gave His life to remove?

He is also our own Good Shepherd. Who will hear our bleatings when we are lost? Who would be more willing to find us, save us, heal us, and protect us? Why would He need to be convinced by any other of our needs?

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Alas, those precious pricelss facts seem to have no weight . . . or perhaps no clarity through the idolatrous, blasphemous fog . . . for those who have been seduced by the Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature from the pit.

I find your statements above particularly apt and anointed. Thanks.

158 posted on 05/05/2008 12:59:30 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

My God, I believe, I adore, I trust and I love Thee! I beg pardon for all those that do not believe, do not adore, do not trust and do not love Thee.


159 posted on 05/05/2008 1:03:57 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Pyro7480

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


160 posted on 05/05/2008 1:07:43 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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