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What does the Bible say about UFO's and extraterrestrials?
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Posted on 05/04/2008 11:14:46 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper

The world is not looking for a theological savior. The world is looking for a technological savior, who will save them from war, famine, poverty, and disease. Unregenerate man wants heaven on earth, on his own terms, and apart from G-d.

What better way for the powers of darkness to reveal themselves, than as the technological saviors of mankind. The world of the occult openly embraces the UFO's, and alien extraterrestrials. The occult will always proclaim these beings as benevolent. The alien contacts always speak of things which contradict the bible. The consistent theology of the extraterrestrial is antichrist. The consistent message of the aliens is hostile to Christianity. The high tech extraterrestrials are demons. This is the only consistent, scientific, and biblically sound explanation. 2 Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2 Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2 Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The main theme of the end times is deception. It is time of strong delusion, deception, lying signs and wonders, in the name of messiah. The last days will see UFO occupants having a prominent role in the establishment of a global world order government under the pseudo christ prince. After 42 months, this global world order government of the pseudo christ prince will ultimately be absolutely crushed and destroyed by the brightness of the glorious coming of the True Messiah Yeshua (Christ Jesus).

Matt 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of G-d saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

The union of the fallen angel demons with the daughters of men produced the nephilim. The direct intervention of the demon spirits with humans brought such demonic evil that violence filled the earth and the thoughts of mankind was only evil continually.

Here is the key to it all:

2 Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION.

Demons are real. They will soon be kicked out of heaven and are coming down here to earth. Expect them first at places like Toronto & Pensecola, in the demonic personages and manifestations of Jannes & Jambres (2 Tim chapter 3).

Soon there will be 2 classes of people, those totally demon possessed, and those totally filled and sealed with the fullness of the Holy Spirit. Only that small group who are sealed and filled with the Holy Spirit will completely understand the STRONG DELUSION.

There will be spectacular extra terrestrial landings made totally public. These high tech extra terrestrials will say that they had to land to save the planet. The people will be told that they must unite behind the world leader of the extraterrestrial beings' choice. Their selection of the prince will be the antichrist.

The spectacular UFO landings will be after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Yeshua is the Hebrew word for salvation, and the name which the apostles called Jesus of Nazareth. It was the BLOOD of YESHUA which guaranteed the total defeat of these high tech deceivers almost 2000 years ago.

There is a cosmic deception coming on the earth in general and the Body of Messiah in particular.

Any time a Christian seeks after any supernatural experience you are on very dangerous ground. What about what blessing? When you look for an experience, signs, wonders or miracles you are setting yourself up to be deviated from the word of G-d. In these days we know counterfeit signs and wonders are going to be a major sign of the times. The days will be filled with false messiahs, and false prophets showing spectacular deceiving signs and wonders. I have witnessed G-d raise the dead; but, it was obviously G-d who did it and not some faith healing minister. The signs and wonders are going to be the badge of your enemies. They will even be coming in the name of Messiah. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, and spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6. We must put on the whole armor of G-d. It doesn't happen automatically. We have to do something. We have only one offensive weapon. The word of G-d. We can skip the meetings, skip the miracles, even skip the prayers; however, if we stop reading His word we will be in trouble. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of G-d. Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Angels are behind the major world powers. In Daniel 10, he is in fasting and prayer for 21 days. A messenger visits him and tells him that he could not get to Daniel for 21 days because he was being restrained by the prince of Persia. There is a demonic personage called the prince of Persia. Daniel has a dream and the angel tells Daniel the meaning of the dream. In Daniel chapter 7 he is shown all the global world order governments that would come on earth before the True Messiah Yeshua's final everlasting reign as King of Kings.

In 2 Kings 6, Elisha told the king of Israel, how he could avoid the strategies of the King of Syria. King of Syria sends a large army to capture Elisha. The servant of Elisha is scared of the large Syrian army. Elisha prays that his servant's eyes be opened so that he could see the horses and chariots of fire surrounding Elisha. G-d's redeemed, elect people, who look only to the redemption price of the BLOOD of YESHUA for their salvation, will be protected by faithful angels and the awsome power of the Holy Spirit of the Living G-d. All other people will be possessed by demon spirits who will go to the lake of fire with their demon possessors.

Biblical Christianity is becoming increasingly politically incorrect. The world is moving to a secular, socialist central world government. And G-d is going to send a STRONG DELUSION to help them believe and pursue their lie.

The Iron Mixed with Miry Clay in Verse 43 of Daniel chapter 2 - The iron mixed with miry clay is explained. The miry clay is clay made from dust. The miry clay can only be people or humankind. The iron is the strength of satanic demonic alien powers and principalities. The mystery of Roswell is not aliens but the incredible cover up of whatever it was that happened at Roswell. There are 10 regions or groupings that make up this iron & clay global world order beast government.

Just as in the Days of Noah, the iron mingles with the clay, demons mingle and come together and join with humankind. The contacts with the exterrestrials consistently refer to humans as "CONTAINERS." These are spirit beings from another space-time continuium. They want to operate in this physical universe and therfore will need to come into or MINGLE with their human "CONTAINERS." They will possess their human "containers" making their human containers feel good as they lead them to their mutual distruction at the return of the True Messiah Yeshua.

Daniel tells Nebuchadneser and us, if we will have ears to hear, that they (demon fallen angels, the iron), they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but, they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. He is speaking politically. To mingle with the seed of men, they must be something other than the seed of men. Now in Genesis 6, not only are there Nephilim but we must think of the "they" who took the daughters of men unto them. "They", mingling the seed of the" iron", with the daughters of men, "miry clay", to produce the Nephilim. This is "as it was in the Days of Noah."

God declared a war on Satan. Enmity, war, is declared between the woman and "thy seed." We understand the seed of the woman. What about the seed of the serpent?

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. The SEED OF THE SERPENT is a pseudo christ. The pseudo Christians will accept and follow the pseudo Christ. The SEED of Woman is the true Messiah Yeshua. The woman in Rev 12 is Israel. The seed of woman is the virgin born true Messiah Yeshua. Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

If the woman in revelation 12 were to be the church, she is in big trouble because she is pregnant. Iron may represent supernatural power and strength; however, a Rod of Iron would represent the absolute of spiritual power and authority, and can only be the True Messiah Yeshua.

The pseudo christ prince will be accepted by the Jews, by the pseudo Christians, the Muslims, the Hindus, Buddhists, and Satanists. He will be accepted by everyone who is religious and does not have a true relationship with the True Messiah Yeshua. This pseudo Christ prince will lead all the religious people in the world to wage a 42 month war on the saints who have a true relationship with the True Messiah Yeshua and not an apostate religion.

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Promise to the True Messiah Yeshua as the Head of this kingdom

Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Counsel to all who want the global new world order and espouse its interests

Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

The nations of the world are going to take up arms against G-d. Sound incredible? That is what will happen. It is easy to understand how the world would reject G-d, or ignore G-d. But in order for the world to load up weapons to go to war with G-d they will have the UFO's and their "outer space aliens" to help lead them in this. Remember the 3 unclean spirits? Rev 16:13 I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. The aliens will appear to the world to help us from the bad guys who are coming. It will indeed be a STRONG DELUSION.

Let me say it plainly. The UFO extraterrestrial occupants are demons. This is the only consistent, scientific, and biblically sound explanation. You may very simply and powerfully deal with them. Shout, "Blood of Yeshua!' When in doubt "BLOOD of YESHUA!" Had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the L-rd of Glory.

G-d created this planet and gave it to mankind for mankind to have dominion over it. Mankind, in the person of Adam, committed high treason. By submitting to Satan, mankind allowed Satan to take dominion of this planet. G-d had the power to take it back from Satan forcefully. However, He chose in stead to redeem, or legally purchase it back, through the redemption price of the BLOOD of YESHUA. Satan and all of his demon extraterrestrial hosts were totally defeated almost 2000 years ago when this redemption price was paid. You will soon have to deal with these demons. Shout, "BLOOD of YESHUA!" The demon will flee from you. The BLOOD of YESHUA guarantees the eternal destiny of these extraterrestrial demons is the eternal lake of fire. All who join with these alien demons will follow them to an eternal lake of fire.

If the BLOOD of YESHUA is your covering and source of your authority, then you have the power to overcome ALL the power of these deceptive high tech enemies of your soul. Make no mistake, the UFO extraterrestrial occupants are enemies of your soul. Make no mistake, that the most powerful force against these demonic hosts is to simply shout, "BLOOD of YESHUA!" They so hate this reminder of their ultimate defeat and destiny that they will invariably flee as you shout "BLOOD of YESHUA!"


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1 posted on 05/04/2008 11:14:46 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: Quix; MarkBsnr; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; OLD REGGIE; ears_to_hear; Gamecock; ...

I had not realized the degree that this idea had permeated reformed thought.

Thoughts?


2 posted on 05/04/2008 11:18:15 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I’ve believed this for years. What better way for Satan to delude the masses than to mask himself and his fallen angels as “Aliens”

The word “Nephilim” actually means The fallen or fallen ones, or something very close to that. I firmly believe that there are UFO’s, but in the literal sense. They are unidentified and they are flying objects.

But what they truly are (I believe) are merely more of Satan’s lies.


3 posted on 05/04/2008 11:21:10 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: big'ol_freeper

I’ll need to go back over the article to read every line . . .

but the UFO comments and scenarios don’t sound very far off, to me.

Of course, at this point we are limited to mostly speculation—hopefully in line with Scripture.


4 posted on 05/04/2008 11:22:10 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: tueffelhunden; Quix

On another thread the subject of this was raised with our dear friend Quix and he prompted me to do a google search. I could not believe the extent of the material on the link between the Bible and UFOs. In my mind it is “tinfoilism” but the amount of material leads me to believe that a large portion of “Bible-believers” subscribe to this idea.


5 posted on 05/04/2008 11:24:29 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper
I had not realized the degree that this idea had permeated reformed thought.

Reformed thought?

(feeling yucky, read later)

6 posted on 05/04/2008 11:29:09 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: tueffelhunden

I am not well versed with Scripture but do you believe that God created this vast universe and Earth is the only planet that has intelligent life?


7 posted on 05/04/2008 11:29:16 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: tueffelhunden

I am not well versed with Scripture but do you believe that God created this vast universe and Earth is the only planet that has intelligent life?


8 posted on 05/04/2008 11:29:42 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: big'ol_freeper
I had not realized the degree that this idea had permeated reformed thought.

Reformed thought?

9 posted on 05/04/2008 11:31:49 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

http://www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/


10 posted on 05/04/2008 11:33:19 AM PDT by BGHater ("If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied")
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To: big'ol_freeper
There will be spectacular extra terrestrial landings made totally public. These high tech extra terrestrials will say that they had to land to save the planet. The people will be told that they must unite behind the world leader of the extraterrestrial beings' choice. Their selection of the prince will be the antichrist.

So, REALLY REALLY illegal aliens are coming to earth to make campaign commercials.

And you guys believe this stuff?

11 posted on 05/04/2008 11:38:03 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: big'ol_freeper; Quix
I think the biggest insights to me were revealed in this report here (lengthy). I don't know if CE 4 Research Group, Inc. still maintains their other site. The report is comprehensive, nevertheless.

That and War On The Saints. I think War On The Saints is still in print, but my friend has this copy posted online.

12 posted on 05/04/2008 11:39:41 AM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: Dog Gone

You said: And you guys believe this stuff?

Not I.


13 posted on 05/04/2008 11:42:53 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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I am not well versed with Scripture but do you believe that God created this vast universe and Earth is the only planet that has intelligent life?

Personally, I think it quite possible.

Much of the universe is necessarily inhospitible -- google on, among other things, "galactic habitable zone".

14 posted on 05/04/2008 11:46:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

In my opinion, this is the work of people who are bored by the true faith and wish to jazz it up a little with their own fantasies.


15 posted on 05/04/2008 11:46:42 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

Check out the volume of this garbage:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=bible+ufos&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


16 posted on 05/04/2008 11:51:28 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Nothing.


17 posted on 05/04/2008 11:55:23 AM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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To: Mogollon; Quix

Mongollon said: Nothing

Quix, do you agree with that statement?


18 posted on 05/04/2008 11:58:03 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I consider the evidence quite conclusive as Guy Malone documents very emphatically by a host of experts . . .

The nephilium pre Noah were polluting the human blood-line AND teaching man/giving man warfare technologies. BOTH were deplored by God and helped trigger the flood.

Yet again, they are up to their old tricks . . . cross-breeding and polluting the human bloodline AND

giving man—the globalist oligarchy now—warfare technologies—only this time—as the retiring head of Lockeed Skunk Works asserted—making them [the globalist oligarchy though he didn’t put it that way]

50 years ahead of everyone else.

the craft are real. some may be demonic manifestations but many, if not most, are tangible technological craft


19 posted on 05/04/2008 12:07:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Demons are real. They will soon be kicked out of heaven and are coming down here to earth.

Cool! Like next Thursday?

Expect them first at places like Toronto & Pensecola, in the demonic personages and manifestations of Jannes & Jambres

Jannes & Jambres are local Pensacola radio show hosts promoting a Hannah Montana concert.

20 posted on 05/04/2008 12:11:11 PM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Well, liberals had to come from somewhere.......


21 posted on 05/04/2008 12:14:35 PM PDT by Seruzawa (A skeleton walks into a bar and asks for a beer and a mop.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

This is the main theme of an old paperback by Michael Redfinn called Being. You can still pickup a copy of it on Amazon (used books) for 48cents. It’s a good read. About ETs that are really Satan and his demons.


22 posted on 05/04/2008 1:06:15 PM PDT by woofer2425 (You will all be using Macs within 10 years)
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To: big'ol_freeper
I had not realized the degree that this idea had permeated reformed thought. Thoughts?

After reading the article, just this one:
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

23 posted on 05/04/2008 1:11:12 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Thoughts?”

Nothing cogent from anyone believing this...dreck.


24 posted on 05/04/2008 1:19:05 PM PDT by Grunthor (You can't perform a circumcision with a chainsaw!)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Demons are real. They will soon be kicked out of heaven and are coming down here to earth. Expect them first at places like Toronto & Pensecola, in the demonic personages and manifestations of Jannes & Jambres (2 Tim chapter 3).

Bayonne, NJ perhaps. Detroit. I'd buy that. But, Toronto & Pensecola? Why?

25 posted on 05/04/2008 1:21:48 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: big'ol_freeper

Um, nothing


26 posted on 05/04/2008 1:27:18 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: big'ol_freeper
There will be spectacular extra terrestrial landings made totally public. These high tech extra terrestrials will say that they had to land to save the planet. The people will be told that they must unite behind the world leader of the extraterrestrial beings' choice. Their selection of the prince will be the antichrist.

Baloney!

27 posted on 05/04/2008 1:33:27 PM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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To: big'ol_freeper; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; OLD REGGIE; ears_to_hear; Gamecock
I had not realized the degree that this idea had permeated reformed thought.

Can you be more specific? It looks like theological junk to me. I don't know any reformed folk that you take it seriously.

28 posted on 05/04/2008 1:35:45 PM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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To: big'ol_freeper

Let me check with L. Ron Hubbard and Whitley Streiber and get back to you.


29 posted on 05/04/2008 1:41:34 PM PDT by NRPM
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To: big'ol_freeper

bttt


30 posted on 05/04/2008 1:43:19 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I shall reserve judgement on aliens until the actually appear. When you start checking off every conceivable, hypethetical event you can imagine as a sign of the apocalypse, then you’re moving towards a doomseday-cult.

God created all things, so if we can come unto him through Jesus Christ, then what’s to say that the “aliens” can’t do the same? Who are we to presume to know what a “man” is that God created. After all, “man” on earth come in all different kinds of shapes and colours? Why not green as well?


31 posted on 05/04/2008 1:57:20 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: big'ol_freeper
Mongollon said: Nothing

Quix, do you agree with that statement?

ROFL

32 posted on 05/04/2008 1:58:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Tell me how many thousands of pages of evidence you’ve read;

how many experts and experiencers you’ve talked to face to face . . .

and I might consider answering your questions.


33 posted on 05/04/2008 2:02:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dinoparty

Uninformed ignorance is not a great confirmation of faith or anything else.

Your speculation is off the wall in my case and that of other informed believers I know well.

Try again.


34 posted on 05/04/2008 2:11:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: randomhero97
I am not well versed with Scripture but do you believe that God created this vast universe and Earth is the only planet that has intelligent life?

If God created man in his image, and if aliens don't look like us, then who created them?

35 posted on 05/04/2008 2:11:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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I have

0.00000000000000000001% evidence

that you have

any solid informed perspective whatsoever

from which to rationally

assess that such a topic is total garbage or totally antything else.

Sounds like you are dragging out off the wall, uninformed speculations about UFOs etc. in a fashion similar to how the magicsterical conjured up fantasized hogwash about Mary; Peter; Christ’s brothers and sisters etc.

Very impressive.

NOT!


36 posted on 05/04/2008 2:13:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: big'ol_freeper

It’s reasonable to say that Scripture says

nothing

per se

about UFO’s specifically.

Ezekiel’s chariot COULD BE an exception.

However, there are some Bible experts—earnest, kosher believers who have pulled out maybe a dozen or so Scriptures which they assert speak specifically to such craft and phenomena citing original root word meanings etc.

I have no handy references for such but they are on the net.

It does not appear to be an issue that God took significant pains to specify with any clarity.

Personally, I think the signs in the heavens that Scripture talks about in terms of thew end times REFERS IN PART to UFO’s but not only.


37 posted on 05/04/2008 2:16:11 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: big'ol_freeper

It says ignore a government that attepmts to use *aliens* has a way to take power from it’s people. (false flag)


38 posted on 05/04/2008 2:17:38 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Grunthor

GRunthor, I’d have thought that you’d have done more homework before lobbing unwarranted all inclusive labels.

Depends on what you mean by drek and what you include under the label.


39 posted on 05/04/2008 2:17:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TopCat; All

This is one time, I wish you were correct.

Sadly, you are exceedingly wrong.

Actually, I think the New Agers have this partly scoped out. They are claiming that the ET’s will

relieve the world—

deliver the world of those nasty ignorant Christians

so that the World can ‘progress’ to the next level, plane, vibration of existance and the New Age of peace etc. once the troublesome Christians are out of the way.

Bible Believing Christians think that the AntiChrist will assert that when the Rapture occurs.

BTW, TC, sounds like once again, you haven’t done your homework.

Pontificating ignorance is not overly admirable.


40 posted on 05/04/2008 2:20:42 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“It’s a COOKBOOK!!!”


41 posted on 05/04/2008 2:22:07 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Quix
Tell me how many thousands of pages of evidence you’ve read;

how many experts and experiencers you’ve talked to face to face . . .

and I might consider answering your questions.

8,255 and 666.

42 posted on 05/04/2008 2:25:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: big'ol_freeper

Hehe, erm. This is a joke, right?


43 posted on 05/04/2008 2:27:21 PM PDT by Szent_Adam_Kiraly (a man a plan a canal panama)
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To: big'ol_freeper

As a firm believer in scripture I can’t rule out extra-terrestrial beings coming to earth and influencing/interacting with mankind. There are just too many passages describing such in the Word of God. Good angles and bad.

The book of Revelations does describe things that certainly don’t fit in with our ‘normal’ perception of reality. Although most could be explained as modern war machines seen by St John in a vision and he had no technological language to describe them.

After two thousand years of nothing miraculous happening (on a world wide scale or even on a local scale as was seen my the Israelites as they exited Egypt and wandered the wilderness) it is getting harder and harder to believe in anything beyond what our senses can perceive. AND we have all been programmed with the darwinist mindset. However recent scientific facts coming to light such as the Big Bang and black holes and dark matter ARE starting to sound more like science fiction than science fact.

I would be very suspicious if alien beings of an advance nature showed up on earth. I would more easily think them demons than anything else. It would take them several decades to prove to me otherwise.

I’ve always loved science fiction. Started reading it when I was a kid and now love most of the programs on the SciFi channel. The best theme SciFi has come up with, to my mind, is the Star Gate series. It’s even more seductive than Frank Herbert’s Dune. Its so perfect. The whole idea that we were seeded on this planet by alien super beings and most of our ancient legends and stories are about these ‘mighty men’ as the Bible mentions. It just goes on and on and the writers seemingly have a never ending well to tap.

If aliens show up and claim to be our long lost fathers they WILL have a huge ready following.


44 posted on 05/04/2008 2:29:42 PM PDT by gost2
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To: randomhero97

I am not well versed with Scripture but do you believe that God created this vast universe and Earth is the only planet that has intelligent life?

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Sometime I wonder if THIS planet has intelligent life.


45 posted on 05/04/2008 2:34:43 PM PDT by Radl
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To: Seruzawa
Well, liberals had to come from somewhere....... LOL!
46 posted on 05/04/2008 2:35:57 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Dog Gone

I guess I should have thrown in the qualifier

BELIEVABLE pages

Demonstrate to me convincingly that you have studied the material seriously and significantly.


48 posted on 05/04/2008 2:46:38 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: gost2

WELL PUT imho.


49 posted on 05/04/2008 2:49:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: OKSooner
" It’s a COOKBOOK "
50 posted on 05/04/2008 2:52:47 PM PDT by sushiman
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