Minnesota Professor Pledges to Desecrate Eucharist

Catholic League ^ | 7/10/2008 | n/a

[Mrs. Don-o]

Oh! Sorry! I am rabidly coming to understand your nuances :o)

[It's me]

And, after doing that I’m SURE that he will desecrate a picture of Mohamed.

Yeahhhh, right!

[trisham]

I have mine and my morality standards

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Unintentional humour alert.

[rhema]

Myers was angry at the Catholic League for criticizing the student.

While, on his blog, he makes disparaging, condescending remarks about everybody who disagrees with his materialistic worldview. What a pathetic excuse for an "educator."

[thefrankbaum]

With all due respect, you ACT as though you believe this guy could actually strike some sort of blow against a sovereign God with his crude grandstanding...which I certainly hope you don't.

Hypothetical. If, knowing everything you know today, could go back in time to Jesus' walk to Golgotha, would you throw yourself between Him and His tormentors during the scourging? Would you do your utmost to protect the Lord, unless commanded not to?

[trisham]

LOL!

[SJackson]

RJS1950 : The way he presented it verbally and in a public state sponsored forum is what he should be in trouble over under the university code of conduct

Boagenes: He needs to be fired, right now. He’s a vicious, hateful, Christophobe, and he should not be employed by a major university. Would they waste five seconds deciding the fate of someone who said something like this about anything to do with Islam? No, they wouldn’t.

Diamond: I can't speak for everyone else, but as a hard core Calvinist Presbyterian I think that the university ought to revoke the tenure of this vile, nut cracker (speaking of nutcrackers) and fire him. They won't, but they ought to.

chesley: The professor should be fired.

trisham: I wasn't sure this was not an overreaction until I saw post #54. This man's behaviour would not have been tolerated by previous generations. It is simply unacceptable in a civilized society.

I’d like to see him fired too, certainly a religious student of any faith should have alternatives given the contempt he’s shown for them, but I doubt anything can be done. This road has been walked before, probably the most prominent Arthur Butz at Northwestern University, one of America’s first prominent Holocaust deniers. Since he keeps his more despicable opinions outside of the classroom, and they’re outside his field of expertise-electrical engineering, his tenured position has been safe for decades. Despite the fact that his position with the University lends credibility to his ravings, as does Myers. Although though I don’t see them there today, links to Holocaust denial sites were on his University site until recently, and as a Professor, he had his views printed in the Daily Northwestern on at least one occasion. If this in on the University website, or linked to his site there, that should end immediately.

Perhaps this guy isn’t tenured. But he deserves condemnation. Northwestern’s President has condemned Butz, his department has asked him to resign, hopefully the academic community at the University of Minnesota will take similar actions.

[thefrankbaum]

And you and other people here seem to realize that you cannot legislate morality, or common courtesy or civility.

You can't legislate morality? Well, hate to burst your bubble, but 1) EVERY state constitution reserves the right of the State to regulate the public health, welfare, safety, and morals, and 2) a prohibition against murder is a moral judgment - just because it is common does not mean it is not moral.

[trisham]

Perhaps this guy isn’t tenured. But he deserves condemnation. Northwestern’s President has condemned Butz, his department has asked him to resign, hopefully the academic community at the University of Minnesota will take similar actions.

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I would like to see it, but I am somewhat sceptical.

[tiki]

It is true, scientifically it is bread. It has all the accidents of bread but its substance is Jesus Christ, in the Body and the Blood, Soul and Divinity.

So are you saying that no one should believe in anything that isn’t provable by limited science?

I guess we should all then take on the religion of atheism because the last I knew God wasn’t sceintifically provable either.

[SJackson]

Centurion2000: If you give someone the host, it becomes their personal property; THEY get to decide what to do with it….If Catholics want to make this large of a deal about this then why not take measures to stop someone from doing it? Like having the priest place the host in the petitioner's mouth?

OpusatFR : Remind me not to let you put your hands on The Torah.

It seems to me the host is given for a specific purpose, at a specific place and time, removing it for desecration not being the specific purpose. I don’t know the legal aspects, I’d hate to see the Catholic Church issue terms of possession prior to services or posted on the walls. Anyone with common sense knows the circumstances, nor is it their responsibility to have security to prevent desecration as in this incident or the SF gay nun incident. Unfortunately it could become a necessity the the Myers of the world have their way.

There’s nothing un-conservative about condemning a jerk like Myers. Or asking for his dismissal if he’s using his position with the University to promote his views.

OpusatFR brings up a similar situation. Whenever read the Torah is presented to the Congregation, but walking through the aisles, congregants touching it with a prayer book (which stays in the Synagogue and can’t be used for coloring even if a Myers type thinks it’s nonsense) or tallit, which is kissed. If some jerk takes the opportunity of desecrating the Torah while in it’s proximity, are you suggesting my Synagogue should have additional security, there’s always security at services for other reasons, to prevent that? And if not, somehow to be counted as a conservative I have to tolerate his act as one of ignorance or allowable contempt? No thanks.

[tiki]

Just because you believe it does not make it a fact.

So is God fact or not? Is the existence of God provable scientifically?

[tiki]

You may be asking the impossible.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“This is why the Catholic Church must end Communion in the hand...In addition, this is why we need to reinstate Porters in the Latin Church.”

Amen!

[tiki]

Not only that but without a forensic investigation of his computer to see which domains the alleged death threats came from and he, himself or any of his friends are ruled out, any death threat would be suspect.

I could send myself any number of emails saying whatever I want and signing it however I want. An email is proof of nothing.

[Aquinasfan]

We look to those who have oversight responsibility to act quickly and decisively.”

I was with Bill until this last line.

[lastchance]

You are right of course. Which is why in another thread about this incident I did suggest any Email be traced to its source.

[Zionist Conspirator]

The comparison is inexact. This like someone removing a Torah from a synagogue without permission. IAC, this is an example of existential rage, I think. Reminding me of an incident at the chapel at Landstuhl Hospital in the early 70s. There was a little side chapel where the Blessed Sacrament was kept and where morning mass was said. An outside door was left open 24/7 for peoplein the hospital to came to pray. Well, someone came in and pulled the chalice out of the tabernacle and pissed in it. Thereafter the door had to be locked at the same time as the main door of the chapel.

I agree with you completely. Some people have an absolute hatred of the Biblical G-d. Ironically, they're often the same people who go on and on and on about the "beauties" of the supernatural beliefs of primitive people.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I went to Catholic school from Kindergarten through the end of high school. I believe in evolution which was taught by the nuns.

Evolution is not the issue.

Mr. Myers seems to think it is.

[Tax-chick]

I agree. Everything within the bounds of legality and morality should be done to stop people like this, while at the same time we pray for their salvation.