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Toledo woman uses 'gift' of channeling [Saint Padre Pio speaks through 63-year-old former nun]
The Toledo Blade ^ | July 12, 2008 | DAVID YONKE

Posted on 08/21/2008 8:12:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Dottie Zimmerman is a 63-year-old mother of three, an award-winning religion teacher at a Toledo Catholic school, a former Ursuline nun, and a director of the Children's Theatre Workshop.

For the last five years, Mrs. Zimmerman also says she has been "channeling" Padre Pio, letting the dead Italian Catholic saint mystically speak through her.

It is a "gift," she said, and although she never asked for it she believes she must use it to help others, especially children.

Last month, Mrs. Zimmerman channeled the saint during a meeting of the Toledo Lightworkers Co-op, a group of people who explore alternative spirituality.

It was the fifth or sixth time she has publicly channeled Padre Pio, a Capuchin friar from Pietrelcina, Italy, who was known for bearing stigmata, or the wounds of Christ, on his hands and feet. He died in 1968 at age 81 and was canonized by Pope John Paul II in 2002.

Mrs. Zimmerman said in a recent interview that although she doesn't channel Padre Pio publicly very often, she hears from him almost daily.

"He'll make these pithy little comments. He has a wonderful sense of humor," she said. "One of the things that he insists is that we breathe deeply and we laugh - love, laugh, and breathe are his three words."

An eighth-grade religion teacher at St. Patrick of Heatherdowns School for nearly 30 years, Mrs. Zimmerman said she felt as though spiritual conversations had been percolating within her for years before she began to explore her gift...

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Other non-Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: padrepio; twilightzone
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1 posted on 08/21/2008 8:13:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

sorry that is creepy.


2 posted on 08/21/2008 8:14:11 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Alex Murphy

One word: Counterfeit


3 posted on 08/21/2008 8:15:36 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: television is just wrong
I'd yank any kids of mine out of her class so fast her head would spin 180 degrees.

Leni

4 posted on 08/21/2008 8:16:05 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home in Nov & Vote for Obama-ization, More Regulation, Taxation, Litigation and Ginsburgization)
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To: MinuteGal

she really has no idea what spirit if any she is allowing into her being. it is just creepy.

a lot of catholics believe in posession. the whole thing is just out there.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 8:17:49 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Alex Murphy

Faker.


6 posted on 08/21/2008 8:18:22 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Channeling is of the devil, period.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 8:19:07 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Alex Murphy

It is creepy on several levels, and I am a practicing Roman Catholic. I think it is interesting this woman is a “ex-nun” who married and had children, and she was urged to begin “channeling” by her brother, a “former priest.”


8 posted on 08/21/2008 8:20:38 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Alex Murphy

Show me a channeler, medium, professional psychic, etc and I’ll show you a liar and a fraud.

A hand full of them are just delusional. The vast majority of them are con artist. NONE of them are legitimate.


9 posted on 08/21/2008 8:20:47 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Ummmm, guys? It’s called “necromancy”, and it’s rather harshly dealt with in Deuteronomy, I believe. This woman needs an exorcism, not a cheery little puff piece.


10 posted on 08/21/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: MinuteGal

her head can prolly spin 360 degrees.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 8:21:30 AM PDT by palomonte
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To: Alex Murphy
She is doing exactly what the bible says not to do:

Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I [am] the LORD your God.

Isa 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

For those not familiar with the term "familiar spirit" it's exactly what she's doing. She's not channeling the dead. Nobody channels the dead. She is communicating with a demon who is pretending to be the dead person. A spirit that seems familiar. That's why God prohibits the practice in the strongest term.

12 posted on 08/21/2008 8:22:18 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Scythian
Indeed.

So, we have a morbidly obese ex-nun who is encouraged by her brother - who is a psychologist and an ex-Jesuit - to engage in this behavior.

The scammitude just drips from this little circus freakshow.

13 posted on 08/21/2008 8:23:55 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Alex Murphy

Maybe she could conjure up King Saul and ask him how things turned out with the Witch of Endor and that time he conjured up the spirit of the Prophet Samuel?


14 posted on 08/21/2008 8:25:21 AM PDT by mkjessup ("People are going to begin to wonder if Russia can be trusted!" - SecState Maddy Rice, well DUH!!!!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Once again, mysticism and the occult raise their heads in the “church.” My sense is that she is not channeling Padre Pio...but someone else...if the Scriptures are to be believed!


15 posted on 08/21/2008 8:29:17 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Scythian
Further "data" from the article:

"Mrs. Zimmerman said she channels other spirits besides Padre Pio. Every Saturday, for example, she channels her mother, who died two years ago, by typing out a letter to her surviving father, which she has collected in a looseleaf binder. "He really looks forward to it because he misses her so dreadfully," she said. She also channels her late husband, John, who "crossed over" 16 years ago."

But wait - there's more:

"Regarding the Sept. 11, 2001, tragedy, Mrs. Zimmerman said while channeling that everyone who 'transitioned' that day went immediately 'home,' or into heaven, 'including those who perpetrated this particular incident. They didn't have their 21 virgins in their party but they were celebrated for three days in partying and love and acceptance because they did what they thought they were supposed to do.' "

This woman may not be a scam artist per se - she may just need to be hospitalized.

16 posted on 08/21/2008 8:29:24 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Believing in a deity is not anymore rational than believing in channeling. One could say, using some people’s logic on this thread, that Priests, nuns, etc are all con artists. I would not agree with them, but it is funny what people decide to believe or accept and what they see as absolutely nuts. Just my observation:)


17 posted on 08/21/2008 8:31:23 AM PDT by GeoPie
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To: Alex Murphy
"a director of the Children's Theatre Workshop"

An actress. 'nuff said.

18 posted on 08/21/2008 8:33:17 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Alex Murphy
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
    2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

    2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another's credulity.


19 posted on 08/21/2008 8:34:19 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: wideawake
They didn't have their 21 virgins in their party but they were celebrated for three days in partying and love and acceptance......

Regarding the 21 virgin thing....I always have wondered, is that a one time thing or do the women have perpetually regenerating hymens? You know eternity is a long time and only 21 virgins doesn't seem like much to me.

20 posted on 08/21/2008 8:35:34 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Republicans and Conservatives staying home will give us President Hussein Obama.)
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