Posted on 09/09/2008 4:30:18 PM PDT by IreneE
As I came out of this same movement, there may be an unwittingness on Palin’s part. I know there was on mine.
Because these false doctrines of Morningstar and the NAR/Elijah Lister’s antichrist doctrines simply “do not work” in a busy, responsible Christian’s life, I am praying that Palin has not been infected to their "Lakeland" levels of deception.
Most of my FR postings have been about this movement. It is dominionist and elitist and scary. As in "End Times" Anti Christ one world theocracy scary.
I have written and will soon publish some of the even more deceptive and scary things about this movement...
Mostly that the true source of the "angels" or demons speaking to these self proclaimed Super Prophets of this movement did not use Biblical discernment to verify and check out the doctrines they were "receiving" supernaturally.
Rick Joyner, Bill Hamon, Bob Jones, Cindy Jacobs, Jim Goll, Tommy Tenny, Todd Bentley -- all have been listening to voices and "untested" angelic presences that are very similar to, if not the same, "angel" that gave false revelation to Joseph Smith of the Mormons.
In fact, some of my research bears this out. This is the End Time Delusion, folks, the one the Bible says will be a time when "they will murder the saints and think they are doing a service for God".
I got out with my Christian faith intact. Palin may already have seen the fruit of the leaders in this movement -- how their prophecies never come true, how it is really an "elitist" subculture of Super Prophets and Super Apostles who take their cues from the Old Testament rather than the new.
Lord, protect and spare Palin's faith. Open her eyes to see the leaders of this movement do not "Tremble at Your Word" and because of that, "You will chose their delusions."
Many people have been in AoG churches and have been focused on their local church. I understand Palin left her AoG a number of years ago.
The purpose of your post is?
Are you trying to discourage conservative from supporting JM/SP ticket or warn about false doctrine?
I am a little confused.
Even these writings say 2002. Wonder what the purpose of the post really is?
You are not nearly as well informed as you would like to think. I attend an AofG church, and we have a Master’s Commission program. The program is a discipleship and ministry training program, focusing on urban missions, reaching out to the lost in large urban areas, both here and abroad.
I have attended Pentecostal churches most of my life, and have yet to see anyone to achieve “dominion” in any secular sense. Any “armies” you might refer to are armies of young people going out to evangelize the lost. Yes, we believe the Bible speaks of last days, and since no one knows when that will be, we take seriously Christ’s command to preach the gospel to every creature. I am not familiar with Morning Star, and I have seen ministries that seem to go off on the deep end theologically, but this post is just an attempt to make people afraid of Sarah Palin because of her religion.
The reason I don't believe it is because she leads too much of an active, productive life, and most of these NARbots are losers who pilfer off the flock with their high falutin’ Christianese and keep up the old boy's club of never revealing the sin they know is happening . This is what happened to Todd Bentley and Ted Haggard of this movement.
This is why I was so upset with Jack Hayford for not "outing" the Lakeland revival as the deception it was when he had a chance.
Hayford and all good Christians need to remember Revelation 2:20 that we are NOT to 'Tolerate" or have passive agreement with false teachings or false prophets. And there is a reason it is in the Book of Revelation, too. It is just so much easier to go along and get along with freaky Christians just because they say the name of Jesus.
There has been so much damage done to the flock by this movement already, I have cried for probably a straight six months out to the Lord to "spare faith"
The NARbots use an Orwellian “language” of faith that requires complete Biblical diligence to decipher. Most workaday Christians I know do not have the time to investigate. But I do have about 300 plus pages I will be having published on them. I probably should get on the phone to the book editors now to help Palin.
So they have some esoteric beliefs. Big deal. They don’t advocate Jihad, pronouncing fatwas on you and yours, putting women in head to toe wraps, sharia, etc. That’s all we care about. Your presumptive doctrinal certainty is the stuff of pride and arrogance. Take a deep breath.
I appreciate your concern and I am for Sarah Palin.
The damage done by this movement already in charismatia is enormous. It began with Bob Jones’ revelation by his ‘angel” Emma who reinstituted many of William Branham’s Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God doctrines for the birth of the Kansas City Prophets of Bob Jones, Paul Cain and Mike Bickle of IHOP.
Despite the perverted sexual activities of Bob Jones in the early 90’s, which in a strict Biblcal sense was ‘Baal Worship” the man was “prophesying” over naked women in his church office while molesting them, this movement did not lose steam but went on to swallow the Vineyard movements with the Toronto Blessing “revival” of the 90’s.
This led to this summer’s “Lakeland Revival” with Todd Bentley, birthed in the same false prophetic bathwater as Kansas City and Toronto.
The most stunning thing about it was that the Assemblies of God — who had for nearly half a century stood against this movement — now hosted it. Throughout June and July many concerned Charismatics were in an uproar that the AOG would not see the deception that was going on.
ABC news did. So did USA Today. But if we read our bibles, we see that the fruit of this false prophetic Jezebelic spirit is always sexual immorality. Sure ‘nuff, Bentley was having an affair that led to his filing divorce papers in early August. For the charismatic mindset, this means that during this whole ‘revival” he was in sin, which disqualifies every NARbot leader who backed him.
I posted this not to dig dirt on Palin but to give her a chance to discern and distance herself from these deceptions. These NARbot leaders want to “get close” to her already— they are power groupies — -and already have “prophesied” about her in a familiar spirit of course.
I hope you are right. However, show yourself approved and do the research. Once I did, I was freaked.
Sarah Palin needs to distance herself from this group. They own GODTV. and have infected TBN.
Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention that Rick Warren calls the head NARbot, C Peter Wagner, his mentor.
“Sarah Palin’s churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the Assemblies of God in 1949.
Oh, great.
Issues, etc. yesterday, did about a half hour on Sarah's church affiliation, specifically the pentecostalism. Likewise, Way of the Master Radio, who put it down to "evangelical lingo" that doesn't come across accurately to those on the outside.
Personally, being a generic evangelical isn't a problem. This stuff, is. Sorry Quix.
Bears looking into. Ping for later reading.
According to Bill Salmon on Special Report by Brit Hume today, Sarah Palin was born Catholic. If that is true...........then she will always be a Catholic.
This is why we have the strong pro-life stance from her.
God bless Sarah.
Take a breathe Irene .. Go to the end of the Book ... the God who "works out everything in conformity with the purpose of His will" WINS.
The only thing I can tell you is that there is a deceptive lie in the arena of “spiritual warfare” that was first propagated, to my knowledge, by C Peter Wagner.
This is that we evangelize by “spiritual declarations” and “prayer against principalities” over geographical locations.
Uh... but Wagner, who is an academic from Fuller, forgets one major thing in his hypothesis: This idea of “taking cities for God” contradicts the Bible.
The Gospel must be preached to individuals, not inanimate objects or buildings or rivers or cities or geographical locations -- "how can they believe unless they hear the Word preached"? And the lies of the enemy, which are the true “strongholds” must be disentangled in love off unbelievers. Wagner's thesis, which I believe corrupted the true intercessory faith of Cindy Jacobs and Dutch Sheets, contradicts the Word and makes prayer and intercession into a video game against the devil.
Thanks you are right that I can’t be in fear.
Just seen a lot of people get slaughtered by this movement and it does get scary for me.
No some whacky NARbots from South Africa own GOD TV and put all the Lakeland NARbot liars on it. Their ratings and monies earned during this summer’s Lakeland revival at an AOG church went through the roof.
The real reason I posted this is I have seen good men and women of God get sideswiped and lives ruined by the flattering lies of this movement.
PROTESTANT PRO-LIFE PING!!!
My sense is that this woman is special and has been raised up for a special purpose. Her rise to national attention has a supernatural presence about it. It's not just beauty and star power...
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