Sarah Palin’s Churches and The Third Wave New Apostolic Reformation

EndTimesPropheticWords ^ | 09/09/08 | Bruce Wilson

[svcw]

Do you have link as to what these people believe.
On google I found many links to what other people say they believe and their own fears but nothing by these people.

[IreneE]

go to the website for this article I think it is endtimespropheticwords@wordpress.com

They have catalogued a huge library of information.

People behind the website were former AOG’s burned by this NAR movement.

I’ll post a small portion of some of the work I did on one of their most deceived but somehow respected “prophets” named Bill Hamon on FR.

[IreneE]

I PM’d you and of course I agree with you.

Feeling protective of her, actually.

[svcw]

wordpress.com is just “anyone can blog” kind of site.
I am really interested in the NAR movement and what they believe as opposed to what people say they believe.

[IreneE]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2072442/posts

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2007/03/post-apostolic.html

Here and here’s one of mine:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2066664/posts

I’ll send you other articles tonight.

Charisma Magazine shut down its forums last month over this NAR/Lakeland controversy, by the way.

[alnick]

My sense is that this woman is special and has been raised up for a special purpose.

Reminds me a little bit of Esther -- "For a time such as this."

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Marysecretary]

All Christians, Catholic or not, should have a strong pro-life stance.

[Marysecretary]

I’ve experienced holy laughter twice in my life. It’s very freeing when it’s done in the Spirit. If not, it’s only fleshly.

[Marysecretary]

Exactly. That’s what I’ve thought all along. She has been called by God for a time such as this.

[Elsie]

Mostly that the true source of the "angels" or demons speaking to these self proclaimed Super Prophets of this movement did not use Biblical discernment to verify and check out the doctrines they were "receiving" supernaturally.

HMmmm...

We've heard THIS before!

[Elsie]

But if we read our bibles, we see that the fruit of this false prophetic Jezebelic spirit is always sexual immorality.

(or HISTORY...)

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NIV Revelation 2:18-29
 18.  "To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:   These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.
 19.  I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.
 20.  Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.
 21.  I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling.
 22.  So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.
 23.  I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.
 24.  Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan's so-called deep secrets (I will not impose any other burden on you):
 25.  Only hold on to what you have until I come.
 26.  To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations--
 27.  `He will rule them with an iron scepter; he will dash them to pieces like pottery' -- just as I have received authority from my Father.
 28.  I will also give him the morning star.
 29.  He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

[redgolum]

For later read

[redgolum]

Listening to it right now.

Heard something very interesting Sunday morning. Got up to early, and since my wife is pregnant and not feeling well, she told me to go to the early service.

On the way, I turned to the local radio station I usually listen to heading to work. They had the local Vineyard church on, and every sentence had “dominion” in it. To the point they were badly mangling the translation.

[IreneE]

I know.

I nearly had fight in a home group with our Pastor when he started to teach that we will must take physical dominion of governments and nations in order that Jesus comes back to earth at the Second Coming.

This goes against the idea that Jesus "will have to shorten the time for His coming for the sake of the elect" and "when He returns, will He find faith left on the earth?" Jesus says “My kingdom is not of this world” otherwise He would have called down warring angels to avenge His arrest at Gethsemane by slaying the Pharisees.

Yet this NAR doctrine got my pastor to actually start having us “War with angels” and a lot of the people there started to confuse the ministry of angels with the Holy Spirit.

Some smart pastor did say that you will be able to tell a NARbot Dominionist from a true Christian on one issue alone: evangelism.

He said the NARbots will be all about “taking over governments” and “making laws to legislate morality” (which cannot be done, hello? The problem of sin, anyone?) and enforcing governmental Churchianity — while true Christians will be putting their reputations on the line as they carry the Gospel to the Lost in love.

For example, one of their most revered "prophetesses" Cindy Jacobs last year "prophesied" that the I 35 interstate that is the trans-American highway, is ordained by God to be a "highway of holiness" as per Isaiah 35! This woman does not understand that the Chinese want to build this highway that will go from Mexico to Canada and it will infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States with an international highway that splits the US right up the middle! Let's be clear -- this is a precursor to a North American Union.

But this major NARbot Cindy Jacobs, claims to have heard from "God" this idea. (She doesn't really even understand that Isaiah 35 is about actual physical Israel). This is why these people are so dangerous. They get unwitting Christians to just sign up on their agendas because they are so called Prophets.

My Pastor was Vineyard until these Narbots like Joyner and Jones and Wagner and Hamon and Jacobs got to him. They flattered him into this deception. It is sickening. He no longer teaches the word of God.

I'm not even saying every whack thing my (now) former Pastor was preaching. Though a fight almost broke out in another class when he started to say that unbelievers, in the coming revival (which he thought was Lakeland) will see us transfigured in our physical countenance like Jesus on the Mount. Basically that unbelievers will just fall down in awe at the sight of us transfigured and... believe!

Funny, the bible says that “They shall know Him by our love for one another” NOT by our glow-in-the-dark transfigured bodies.

Anyway, if this domininist claptrap were true at all, then why did they crucify Jesus? Shouldn't He have been glowing in the dark? “He was without beauty... nothing to account for in our eyes”.

The point of this post is just that normal workaday Christians, even extraordinary workaday Christians like Sarah Palin, usually don't have the time to investigate these specious doctrines that have snuck into charismatic churches.

Hoping that she understands and stands against this whack stuff. Bless her, Lord. Do not let her "tolerate" these false teachings.

[opus86]

I'm going to agree w/ CA Conservative on this one...Having attended several A/G churches in the past 20 years, I doubt the vast majority of the A/G put much stock in the goofy stuff that rears its ugly head in the pentecostal churches. Your garden-variety A/G members are too busy w/ their own lives and church ministries to be caught up in Bentleyesque silliness. I've never heard "dominionism" preached. In my churches the only things Masters Commission students were involved in were missions trips, Bible study, and evangelistic outreach.

Additionally the A/G general superintendent made a statement some months ago that essentially warned people not to get involved w/ the Lakeland foolishness.

[Elsie]

Dang

This is really goofy stuff you are reporting!

[IreneE]

It’s actually worse than what I’ve managed to type up here.

But again the Lord promises that “He will send a delusion” upon those who “no longer love the truth of His word.”