if it's not in Latin, it's NOT Mass... it's just Church.
Posted on 09/16/2008 4:28:24 PM PDT by NYer
Pope Benedict XVI addressed this with in his final homily this week at Lourdes. He told the bishops there must be room for everyone to celebrate the liturgy respectfully but that the Church would not revert back to pre VCII days (or words to that effect). Some people, as the Cardinal has noted, are never satisfied.
I hope he was not surprised by this.
There is still a de facto ban on the Extraordinary Form in most dioceses. Even when a priest knows how to offer this form of the Mass, he is often prevented from doing so through unlawful "tests" which bishops have imposed, or through simple intimidation.
There needs to be a lot more generosity on the part of bishops before I will believe that a few cranks who complain on blogs no one reads is some sort of crisis.
if it's not in Latin, it's NOT Mass... it's just Church.
I love the Latin Mass and have joined a parish where it is used exclusively. But, I don’t want it to totally supplant the Novus Ordo for fear that the most liberal will still inject their beloved rituals into the Mass such as receiving communion in the hand or bowing the head rather than genuflecting. Not to mention the Sign of Peace or the Protestant Our Father. No, make the Latin Mass readily available to those who choose it, but don’t shove it down the charismatics’ throats.
Until the Mass is celebrated in the original Aramaic the outrageous modernist scandal will continue! ;-)
Bull!
Or should I say Bos Taurus!
I find Mass in Latin to be a wonderful experience, but my normal Mass in English is just as valid.
it's valid, it's just not Mass. guess it's just the old school alter boy in me.
Create a separate jurisdiction within the Latin Rite for the Gregorian Usage and be done with it.
Lol! (Legalism and self-righteousness will always be a temptation....)
;-)
“Legalism and self-righteousness will always be a temptation....)”
It’s not legalism to prefer Latin.
The enemies of the Church damaged her tremendously by “translating” things to say what they wanted them to say, rather than what they actually say.
Latin is a safeguard against that. A common language for the Church is of immeasurable value.
Latin in the Mass is what it is.
Vernacular in the Mass is whatever the “translators” or the ad libbers want it to be.
As an agnostic that can recite the “Sucipiot” (sp), The Catholic Church lost credibility when it ditched the Latin Mass, IMVHO.
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I was an altar boy for 4 years...does that count.
So, Jesus Christ used Latin when he said the first Mass?
Did he use Latin during the crucifixion?
Well, the Latin Mass is back. Check in your area for one.
If you indeed used to serve Mass then you'd know that you were an altar boy. Perhaps you really are an alter boy.
LOL...your post made me chuckle, gorush, because my older boy serves the TLM at our parish (Deo Gratias!) and the response to “Orate Fratres” (the Suscipiat) was the one response that drove him totally batty.
It IS a difficult one to memorize and I tip my hat to you for doing so.
Regards,
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