Posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:05 AM PST by DarthVader
The economy is the first thing to go. We are going from a recession into a depression. Read Ezekiel 7.
Read Atlas Shrugged for a clue on how the economy will be destroyed.
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I think it was just the opposite, we just got spanked.....
We did just get spanked. But more than that, If we really believe the bible, it tells us that we’re going to end with socialism and a government that controlls everything. If we claim to believe it, we have to recognize where we are.
This is not the end of the world people, and neither is it the end of the USA.
Freedom is not free, and no one is taking it away from me.
Psm 23:1 The LORD is my Shepherd, I shall not want.
It already is straight with my Savior. As the Lord told us, He will come like thief in the night. As if some lame utterly immature power mad sinner is going to come between me and my Lord....
The spanking has yet to begin.
I think you’re pretty close to right. But we have to agree that it’s allready written. It is what was foretold and laid out at the beginning of time. And our hope is in what God has in store for those that trust in him. The perspective is this “will it matter in 10,000 years?” If not then we don’t sweat it.....
'Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.' Isaiah 41:10
Watch the Obama Supreme Court strike everyone of these laws down.
Why don’t you look at it like the attack on Pearl Harbor? Yeah, the U.S. fleet was sunk there BUT the aircraft carriers were out at sea at the time and most of the sunken battleships were resurfaced and repaired. Yeah, it looked pretty bleak at the time but, well, you know the rest of the story.
“God removes His hand from the United States”
that headline is nonsense. Humans have free will. Humans make choices. A majority of Americans have fallen for a lie and made some very bad choices. It’s up to humans to correct their error by writing letters and voting next time.
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
And this...
1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
As we prayed over the election in our assembly, we could not help but acknowledge the failure of the church to be a faithful, active witness for the Lord. This, as much as anything else, contributed to last night’s results. And, while we know that “all things work together for good, for those who love God...” what is it He is after in the end? It is for His people to be conformed to the image of His Dear Son. So, whether it be by means of peaceful democracy, or through the vice of atheistic socialism, God’s plan for the life of the believer remains unchanged. It is to bring the child of God to the place in his life where all is laid on the altar of sacrifice, a shaking free of the snare brought on by attachment to this world is brought about, and a deeper walk of faith in Christ is achieved.
“we could not help but acknowledge the failure of the church to be a faithful, active witness for the Lord.”
Bingo! You are dead on!
So why have your prayers remained unanswered?
In this age of grace, we know God disciplines His children whom He loves and also manifests grace to those not yet His.
I agree with you that if the US forsakes Israel, we shall likely endure His wrath.
For the last 2 centuries, the US has been fortunate by His hand to have acted as a client nation to the world. Those nations which in the past have left Him from a client nation status not only rarely return to Him, but wallow in depravity.
These include N.Africa, Holland, Britain, and Germany.
Americans have enjoyed His grace, mercy, and the wealth of His blessings, but perhaps another lesson is available here. Those who worked so hard so that their children might have more, have succeeded, although without faith in God through Christ, those with more degenerate in character to less stature than the worldly poor with faith in Christ.
If the US curses Israel, expect calamities such as cataclysmic disaster to show the degenerate that He is truly God. If those who reject Him, whom He loves, fail to return to Him on His terms, He historically is known to discipline again some 7 times more severely, and again by another seven times, if not obeyed again.
There are many perishing, who have enjoyed His blessings, by having been associated with those whom He has loved and has blessed. Yet many of those foolishly associate those blessings as a natural consequence of their personal efforts independent of God. Many of them even hate and attack anything Holy and God Himself where they are able.
When those whom He loves are removed from their midst, those who are unrighteous will begin to feed upon themselves. When society begins to fail, the externalities of one system failing will propagate among many.
When Israel split and removed herself from Him, He disciplined her, and when her kings continued to work independent of Him, He allowed her enemies to invade her, split Israel up and disperse Israel into slavery.
Ironically, if this nation continues to rebel from Him, after His discipline, it may suffer loss of freedom, even to the point that some who blame their welfare woes upon slavery from many generations ago, might find themselves physically removed from this nation and subjected to slavery again by our enemies.
Pray without ceasing and let’s pray for our leaders, that more than anything they return to God through faith in Christ. No matter what cursing might occur, thank you Lord, for His Will is just and by remaining in Him in all things He shall provide for us.
Also pray that if this nation refuses to hear Him and obey Him, that we might be placed in a time and place where he chooses to use us best.
There are many, south of our borders, who may be more receptive of the Gospel than in our own country. May God richly bless those who bless Him and curse those who curse Him.
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace , and be not still , O God.
* For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
* They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
* They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
* For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee..
have vowed to wipe Israel off the map. I have read that if Obama were elected, Israel would use the waning days of a supportive administration to try to take out some of Iran's nuclear facilities and it occurred to me that if that happens, and after Obama is safely ensconced in the White House, and the Islamic fanatics know that they have nothing to fear from America, the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 and 39 would take place.
At any rate, just as 9/11/2001 was a momentous moment in prophecy as far as America's role in end-time events, I believe Obama's "presidency" will weaken this nation to the point where, as we know, America does not merit a mention in Scripture as a player on the world stage during this time.
After I heard that Obama had won, my first thought was one of surprising clarity; I knew that from this point on it would be about my and my family's relationship with God, our dependence on Him, and nothing else. Things are moving forward at an alarming rate; all man-created political and social systems will fail, Bible prophecy will happen just as written, and, in the end, it will be, just as God has always said, what you have done with Jesus that will be the only thing that matters.
Both of you stop it right now. Stop whining. Despairing of the Lord our God is a grave sin. He chooses when, where, who and how. Don’t you dare feel that He has left. We have been Godless for years. Have you watched television? You know about Planned Parenthood. Have you read when our Lord Jesus Christ forbid divorce? This has been a profligate nation for a long time. It did not happen over night. Our job is not to despair. Our job is to pray. Live in accordance with His laws. Find it within ourselves to give witness. I went to Rome and I visited the catacombs. People who fled to underground chambers to worship their Lord, to bury their dead, to hide from egregious persecution. The state persecuted them. They did not whine. They fought back, and they argued their case, ultimately successfully, for their right to be Christian.
They dwell on earth, but are citizens of heaven
“They live in their own countries and are strangers. They loyally fulfil their duties as citizens, but are treated as foreigners. Every foreign land is for them a fatherland and every fatherland, foreign.
They marry like everyone, they have children, but they do not abandon their new-born. They have the table in common, but not the bed. They are in the flesh, but do not live according to the flesh (2 Cor 10,3; Rom 8, 12-15). They dwell on earth, but are citizens of heaven.
They obey the laws of the state, but in their lives they go beyond the law. They love everyone, yet are persecuted by everyone. No one really knows them, but all condemn them. They are killed, but go on living. They are poor, but enrich many (2 Cor 6,9-10). They have nothing, but abound in everything. but in that contempt they find glory before God. Their honour is insulted, while their justice is acknowledged.
When they are cursed, they bless. When they are insulted, they answer with kind words
(1 Cor 4,12-13). They do good to others and are punished like evil-doers. When they are punished, they rejoice, as if they were given life. The Jews make war against them as if they were a foreign race. The Greek persecute them, but those who hate them , cannot tell the reason for their hatred”.
From a letter by an unknown Christian to Diogenetus, second century Rome.
Be not afraid. Dwell on earth, but be citizens of heaven. V’s wife.
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