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A "NO DEBATE ALLOWED" THREAD ON THIS WEBSITE??
Prayer thread ^

Posted on 11/11/2008 8:28:23 PM PST by Lisa_from Buckeye Country

This thread is incredible to me! I am a Christian, but Christians LOVE debate. What is going on here?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2130508/posts


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We cannot voice our opinion of Obama, because the person who started it says that's it's protected by religion? Since when has Obama cared about Christians? Wake up people, this is scary, check out this thread. I knew our voice would be surpressed, but I had no idea it would be on this website:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2130508/posts

Everytime I post something, I get a reply in my inbox, to send replies to the one who started this thread. Again, this is this last place I thought my voice would be surpressed. Am I the only one upset by this travesty?

1 posted on 11/11/2008 8:28:23 PM PST by Lisa_from Buckeye Country
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Are you logged in?


2 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:19 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom Honkeys for Mc Cain Palin)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

It’s a prayer thread.


3 posted on 11/11/2008 8:31:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (We ARE the dissent, baby!)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Mr Robinson’s web site... Mr. Robinson’s rules

and here are the rules.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/


4 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:03 PM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Helloooo, it’s a prayer thread-not an I can’t stand Obama thread.


5 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:21 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country; Religion Moderator
This has to do with the pray for Obama Thread.

What are your guidelines in respect to this thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:lisafrombuckeyecount/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

6 posted on 11/11/2008 8:33:15 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jim Robinson

disregard post 6


7 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country
You've been here 5 years.

Act like it.

8 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:10 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country
This thread is incredible to me! I am a Christian, but Christians LOVE debate. What is going on here?

A) You stepped into the Religion Forum without B) knowing the Religion Moderator's thread rules.

9 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:18 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Think of it like your church. You would not care to have people traipsing through the sanctuary loudly debating. In the fellowship hall perhaps, not the sanctuary.


10 posted on 11/11/2008 8:35:28 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Ah, now this is a debate thread!

The prayer threads are for prayer. They are not for debate. Your voice is not being silenced. You just posted this thread.

Since we are off of the other thread, if you were paying attention we are mostly praying for Obama to repent of his sins and turn to the Lord. It isn’t because we think he is such a grand guy. We don’t. The people praying are pretty much universally opposed to his presidency. But, Scripture says we should pray for all of our leaders and those in authority that we may live peaceful lives. The Apostle Paul wrote such when Nero was head of Rome, so I believe he didn’t just mean pray for those you like.

Obama’s views are diametrically opposed to Scripture. His support of the death culture, repeal of constitutional rights, the homosexual agenda are all anathema to God. If he does not repent, he will be judged for these views and more. So will America for putting him in office.

Jesus said to pray for our enemies. We are doing that. It isn’t an easy task and I’ve pretty much taken a lot of flack for posting the prayer thread each night. But, we aren’t hypocrites. Barack Obama needs to know the Lord if we have any hope of surviving these next 4 years.

You can debate me out here. Just not on the prayer thread. Think of it as going inside a church versus outside on the street. It is inappropriate in a prayer setting to start bickering over what is being prayed about. Outside, you’re free to express your opinion, and I mine.

Ultimately, we have the Lord to answer to & He never said His instructions would be easy.


11 posted on 11/11/2008 8:35:37 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

The easiest way to be banned is to get into the Religion Forum. I try to avoid it.


12 posted on 11/11/2008 8:36:27 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: stylin19a

Well, this is really sad. Very sad. Folks praying for Obama, the man who will be the downfall of our country, but on THIS WEBSITE, our voices are surpressed.
In my church, don’t know about yours, but freedom of expression is still allowed, and encouraged.
This is just the beginning, I guess.


13 posted on 11/11/2008 8:36:28 PM PST by Lisa_from Buckeye Country (B. (Hussein) O. will never be MY president.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Start your own prayer thread with (OPEN) in the title.


14 posted on 11/11/2008 8:36:36 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

The rules state all prayer threads are closed to debate. Start a thread somewhere else that isn’t a prayer thread (like this one), and we can discuss whether it is biblical or not to pray for Obama.

Incidentally, the Kos and others have taken notice of the threads & have been watching what Freepers are doing. You may decide praying for Obama is not your thing. But, we can at least act better than the Dems would in the same situation.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 8:38:46 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country; All
Following are the guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum.

If you cannot or will not comply with these guidelines, stay away from the Religion Forum.

If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

The guidelines:

I am the current Religion Moderator and have general responsibility for this Religion Forum on Free Republic. However, all moderators have authority on the RF as well and a few others may log in with my handle. So the person handling your abuse reports may or may not be me, but usually it will be.

Types of threads and guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum:

Prayer threads are closed to debate of any kind.

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Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus.

For instance, if it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus invites you, I will not boot you from the thread.

The “caucus” article and posts must not compare beliefs or speak in behalf of a belief outside the caucus.

Ecumenic threads are closed to antagonism.

To antagonize is to incur or to provoke hostility in others.

Unlike the “caucus” threads, the article and reply posts of an “ecumenic” thread can discuss more than one belief, but antagonism is not tolerable.

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Recap

Prayer threads.

Who can post? Anyone

What can be posted? Requests for prayers and prayers

What will be pulled? Any debate

Who will be booted? Repeat offenders.

Devotional threads.

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Ecumenic threads.

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My job:

I am not the protector of your beliefs.

I am not the arbiter of truth, for that posters must turn to God or whoever they consider to be the final authority.

I am not the arbiter of logical proofs, for that the posters must turn to the mathematicians, logicians and philosophers.

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I am not the arbiter of the meaning of words, and I'm not sure there exists such a final authority so the burden rests with the posters to explain what they mean.

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I diligently try to read all of your posts, but am not here 24/7 and cannot remember all of the slights and parties involved on every single sidebar much less when posters carry grudges between threads. So if you are wondering why I singled one guy out and not the other involved in a dispute, often it is because I either did not see a previous post or did not remember it as part of the sidebar.

If the other guy in the dispute was given a warning, consider yourself warned as well.

Remember this:

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If the other guy is throwing spitwads at you on an “open” thread it probably means he has run out of ammunition. Take it as a backhanded compliment. You won, walk away.

Spiritual maturity is not a prerequisite for posting on the Religion Forum. If the other guy is being childish, be patient with him.


16 posted on 11/11/2008 8:38:52 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country
I am a Christian, but Christians LOVE debate.

OK. Ginger or Marianne? Wilma or Betty?

17 posted on 11/11/2008 8:39:24 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks.


18 posted on 11/11/2008 8:40:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Plenty of other threads on FR to express yourself. That one is for prayer.


19 posted on 11/11/2008 8:40:22 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

That is a daily prayer thread. Tomorrow there will be a new one that says “Pray for our Nation & President-Elect Obama - Day 9”. This will continue until a new President is elected in 2012.

This was/is a continuation of the daily “Pray for our Nation & President Bush - Day 1 to 2780”

They are not up for debate threads.

If you don’t like it, don’t click it.

You may not like the words “President Obama”, but unless a strange turn of fate or a miracle happens he is our President Elect. We are not moonbats.

We pray for our Nation and it’s leaders, and do so daily.


20 posted on 11/11/2008 8:41:26 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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