Posted on 11/22/2008 8:25:00 AM PST by SmithL
San Francisco needs a saint in a bad way. Somebody like Padre Pio who will call people on their sins.
Divides them into Catholics and CINO
Pelosi and her minions in San Francisco are not Catholics. They are CINOs.
Catholics in name only.
Because that would do little to advance the overall cause, and besides their ultimate goal is to literally destroy anything remotely good & descent in our country and culture. You might ask, ‘why don’t they establish their own Boy Scout organization?’ Same-same…
ping to above it was misdirected
If the gay marxist syndicate has, in fact, divided Catholics through opposition to Prop 8, then they’ve managed a victory of sorts, through divide and conquer tactics.
It would appear their intent all along has been to destroy the Catholic Church, witness many of their past activities pre-Prop 8. And we seem to be cooperating nicely.
I am a Libertarian. I keep seeing these stupid articles and discussions about this topic. People really do have the memory of an insect. People really don’t know where they’ve come from. It makes me sad guys. Here is what I see. I see that you don’t know a thing in and of itself. The cause of this, in and of itself, is that the government is deciding who gets married in a church. Does that set off any alarm bells fellow Patriots?
I think we are all missing the point of the separation of Church and State. The STATE is at fault here. No if’s, and’s, or but’s. They have crossed the line when the legislate who I can procreate with. I happen to like asian girls, so this does hit close to home for me. What does that have to do with gay’s and fruitcakes, you ask? Read on.
The state has no business deciding who gets married and who doesn’t. That was invented in the 1800’s to keep chinese/mongoloids and negroes from marrying caucasians. And it worked.
The State has no business asking for a vote on this. It is the absolute Right of Religion to dictate who gets married and who does not.
The Roman Catholic Church cannot condone sodomy. It is and always has been a mortal sin. Which means you really do go straight to hell when you die. Hell is without choice. Hell is repetition. Hell will hurt you and for a very long time. And sodomy is a one way ticket. That will never change.
If homosexuals want to marry, they can start their own church and get married in the Holy Rainbow of Whatever. It’s not our business. We have no business legislating them or anyone else.
The only reason why we are discussing this at all is because the IRS is still socially engineering our society. Are you married? Are you single? Do you have a house? A chicken? A monkey? Do people think your look weird because you’re brown/yellow or mulatto? Do you have a bone in your nose? Then you get a tax deduction!
Marriage came before governments. Marriage isn’t a promise to your fiance’. It’s a promise to God- at least in the Catholic Church. Other church may worship gerbils. None of my business, and good for them. In either case, that puts it right in the lap of Religion- not the State.
The State and/or Government have no business keeping track of if you married a chinese girl or not, or if you married a gay guy or not.
To resolve this issue, like most BS the government creates, remove that request for information from the tax code. Make all state marriage “licenses” illegal. And let the Church’s do what they are supposed to do. Keep the IRS from asking about your personal life. I can’t ask that at a job interview, but they can fine me for it? No, I don’t think so.
Is this not why we founded this Country? Because the state slaughtered and bred out any religion the King didn’t like. This is not the place for government. It has never been the place for government.
This isn’t about gay’s or any other group with a self-correcting illness. This would not be a discussion at all if the government wasn’t racist and overstepped it’s bounds into religion.
It’s not our concern who gets married and it’s not the government’s concern who gets married. There should be no marriage “license” or marriage “tax” in the first place.
Did Niederauer meet with Nancy Pelosi yet?
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? They cherish their sin and the "pleasure" it brings them rather than their relationship with God. Repentance is too old-fashioned for these people who conveniently forget that Yeshua's final words to the woman caught in adultery were "Go and sin no more."
Some anthropologists have said that primitive peoples do not follow the law of noncontradiction. Boomer Catholics like their non-Catholic peers are in awe of what they regard as Indian spirituality—most of which has been “corrupted” by Christianity. Their form of Christianity is a pastiche of contradictory elements and they are so ignorant of traditional Catholicism that they don’t know it. To be sure, the rigid American Catholicism of the ‘50s, which encrusted the vital core, and which even men like the Holy Father found unappealing, did not prepare them for the realities of an every less religious world. So when John XXIII threw open the windows, the people within were ill-prepared for the stormy blast.
Where were the Jews,the Muslims? Why in the name of God can’t people of faith come together for something?
Religious Jews are a small minority of the Jews in California. For most, the Scripture is mere folklore. But good question about the Muslims: Don’t they hate homosexuals?
Those who are grounded in the rules of reality from the Creator, even when they don't acknowledge the Source, can govern themselves. Socialism gains popularity when people reject those rules/principles to take responsibility for themselves and the needs of those around then and look for someone else -- the government -- to take over those functions.
Regarding state-licensed marriage, it's irrelevant now where the practice came from in the U.S. The high courts removed any racist undercurrent 50 years ago. Today, those who reject the Creator's rules of reality, specifically that humans were created for male-female intercourse and reproduction, need legislated morality to make sure that the vast majority of children, who attend government-run schools, aren't taught anatomical fiction, or that there is nothing aberrant about same-sex intercourse.
I agree with the None of My Business Party that what goes on in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom, save predatory behavior. One must take responsibility for his own actions. However, when the molding of impressionable minds is at stake, it must become our business.
To be clear, I don't want the State to get involved with teaching children about the Creator, something the Founders seemed to agree with in crafting the First Amendment.
What goes on in the bedroom unfortunately never stays in the bedroom. What goes on behind closed doors affects the public because it determined how people act in public.
Can't help laughing, but it's not really funny.
Whenever I see the term "pro-choice Catholics" the term "meat eating vegetarians" flashes through my mind.
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