Skip to comments.Remember: Politics not science decided that homosexuals are 'normal'
Posted on 11/23/2008 7:06:32 AM PST by JosephSmithNAW
Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA). Activist Frank Kameny states the movements objective clearly, I feel that the entire homophile movement is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)
In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of ones own gender to be disordered. Karoly Maria Kertbenys term, homosexual was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder. Psychiatrys authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex. Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but scientific opinion was crucial in the public attitude.
Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months agoin the movements most aggressive demonstration so fara group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes. We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered, shouted the groups leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured! (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)
Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.
On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry. (The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)
Same-gender sex activists continued to pressure the APA through 1973. A same-gender sex magazine, The Advocate, talks of what happened in 1973 referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APAs dropping homosexuality from the DSM. (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40) As a result of the pressure, in the words of the prominent journalist and same-gender sex activists, Andrew Sullivan, in December of 1973 the APA, under intense political pressure removed homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders (Love Undetectable, book by Andrew Sullivan, 1998, p. 107) Under this intense political pressure the APAs board of trustees finally caved in to the demands of same-gender sex activists. Another same-gender sex activist Mark Thompson writes, Just before the first of the year, the American Psychiatric Associations board of trustees declared we were no longer sick. (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 97)
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The homosexual propaganda continued with "I was born this way", the "gay gene", and so on. The whole story - that, whatever disposition may exist "genetically", it is by no means conclusive; that what happens during childhood or adulthood is of no consequence, rather of major consequence.
The rise of open homosexuality as a lifestyle was due to the breakdown of the moral consensus which existed prior to the rise of gay agitators. The gays pushed it along faster than it might have otherwise gone.
“WHY IT IS TRUE THAT SODOMITES ARE NOT A CLASS OF PEOPLE BUT A TYPE OF SINNER?”
The statement, “Some people are born homosexuals” is not true. It is true that ever person is born with a sin nature. That sin nature is capable of all kinds of vile affections. In order to practice them, however, a person must reject the moral laws of God which are written in his heart (See Romans 2:15) and then surrender himself to sensuality. (See Romans 1:24).
The false notion that sodomites are “born that way” leads to the political chaos described in the following quotes:
“It is no longer a matter of whether homosexuals will achieve political power, so much as what they will do with it. Will they demand absolute sexual freedom as in San Francisco? Will this challenge to traditional values stir still more hostility and controversy? (Commentator Harry Reasoner after research on San Francisco).
“Our message to city hall politicians everywhere is that they think it’s difficult to deal with homosexual influences now, they’ll be dealing with a total political monster if they pass they pass these bills. They’ll face pressures and agonies they never before dreamed of” (Dr, David Innes, minister in downtown San Francisco).
Copied from: SPECIAL REPORT FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS
By: IBLP Ministries (1986)
What difference does it make whether or not it’s “abnormal”? Obviously something that is relatively rare is “abnormal.”
But so is being a genius.
“Normal” has no intrinsic value, and “abnormal” is not intrinsically bad.
Pedophiles are attempting to do the same thing. They want their perversion to be viewed as just another healthy sexual expression. If we think it cant happen, I fear that we are deceiving ourselves.
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And so is being retarded.
We DO make such distinctions. There IS intrinsic “good” and “bad”.
WHY ARE LAWS AGAINST SODOMY VITAL AND BENFEFICIAL FOT ALL CITIZENS, INCLUDING SODOMITES?
The first purpose of a law is to give instruction to those who violate universal standards of conduct which bring destruction to themselves and to those around them.
“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers. For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:9-10).
Sodomy is a self-consuming passion which will not satisfy those who engage in it. Instead it will produce enslavement to ever-increasing cravings for fulfillment. If no law exists to probihit sodomy or, worse yet, if laws are made to protect it, thousands of unsuspecting citizens will be drawn into it without knowing of its dangers.
Copied from:”SPECIAL REPORT FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS”
By; IBLP Institute (1986)
“........Normal has no intrinsic value, and abnormal is not intrinsically bad........”
....abnormal is not intrinsically bad...really?
That is the sort of ‘thinking’ that emptied mental hospitals in the 70s. Look at the results.
Normal sexual desire and drive ensures procreation.
What does homosexual desire and drive ensure?
>Remember: Politics not science decided that homosexuals are ‘normal’<
Remember: Politics not science decided that there is irrefutable proof of global warming and its destructive effect to the way of life in a Western culture.
But being "retarded" isn't bad because it's abnormal, per se.
We DO make such distinctions. There IS intrinsic good and bad.
Assuming that's true, it misses the point. It's illogical, even nonsensical, to make such distinctions merely (or even at all) on the basis that something is "abnormal," as the examples show. If you want to argue that homosexuality is bad, you have to find a more rational basis for such an argument than the mere fact that it is "abnormal," at least if you want to convince rational people of your position.
“..I do not believe they should be discriminated against in any area of society except adoption and marriage.”
Totally sensible and acceptible opinion.
Intimidation, whining, violence seems to work in the USA. Which victim groups have NOT tried it to get special undeserved privileges from normal people?
Yes, really. Being a genius is abnormal. Having flaming red hair is abnormal. Being 6'5" is abnormal. Being capable of running a four-minute mile is abnormal. All of these things are abnormal, and none of them are intrinsically bad.
That is the sort of thinking that emptied mental hospitals in the 70s.
What does homosexual desire and drive ensure?
What difference does it make? I'm not arguing that homosexuality is good. I'm just pointing out that to call it so simply on the basis that it isn't normal makes no sense. There is no intrinsic value to normality.
Obviously, I meant "...to call it bad simply on the basis...
Two words are being confused here. ‘rare’ and ‘abnormal’. These are two different words with two different meanings.
Being a genius is rare but it certainly is not considered abnormal.
When i use the word ‘normal’, i use it in this sense
Normal : free from mental disorder
I suppose it is abnormal in the statistical sense of the term, but as you say not in the sense of what is considered unhealthy.