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WE CAN KNOW THE DAY and the Hour
Bible Prophecy Corner ^ | 12/15/08 | Marilyn Agee

Posted on 12/15/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by STD

WE CAN KNOW THE DAY

"THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK... SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE" THAT'S CHESHVAN 17

JESUS SAID, "TAKE YE HEED: BEHOLD, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS" (Mark 13:23)

I'm no prophet, but it now seems that Jesus himself gave us the last clue we need a long time ago. It's so plain in Matthew 24, I don't know why I didn't get it before this. I knew it was in Scripture, but I looked everywhere but the right place, in plain view. I should have known that in plain view was the best place to hide something. What threw me off was Mt. 24:36, where Jesus said, "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man". After so many reminded me of that so many times, I skimmed over what followed it.

Look what he said in verse 42: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY.

In case we missed it, he even repeated it. in verse 44, he said, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think not the Son of man cometh." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY.

That means that in between verses 36 and 44, Jesus revealed the DAY, Cheshvan 17, "THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK." The wise virgins are not in the dark as to the DAY, just the hour. The foolish virgins don't know the day or the hour. Jesus put the day in plain view. I have read it over and over without realizing that in verses 42 and 44, he didn't say DAY AND HOUR, only HOUR (hora).

Mt. 24:32-45 (KJV) says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, which she was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golen Heights, West Bank, in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (the war started June 5; summer arrived June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God', Luke 21:31) is near, even at the DOORS (symbol of the Raptures, as in Rev. 3:8, 4:1). Verily (amen, so be it, firm, trustworthy) I say unto you, This generation (i.e., those born in 1967) shall not pass (1967 + 48 = 2015), till all these things (i.e., both Raptures) be fulfilled."

It looks like the 2nd Rapture will be in 2015 (Tishri 1, 5776). The 1st Rapture will be 7 years before that, i.e., in 5769. This year started on Tishri 1, 5769 (Sept. 30, 2008). I thought the 1st Rapture would be that day, but I had something else to learn, and that is found in this passage of Scripture. Read on.

Continuing in Mt. 24, the Olivet Discourse, Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK (Cheshvan 17), And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. Then (tote, at the same time, i.e., on Cheshvan 17, 5769; November 15, 2008) shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR (hora) your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR (hora) as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in DUE SEASON (kairos, set time)?"

Lev 26:2-4 says, "Ye shall keep my SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; Then I WILL GIVE YOU RAIN IN DUE SEASON, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees (i.e., nations) of the field (i.e., world) shall yield their FRUIT."

We are called a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. It looks like we will go to Shabbatai (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven; II Cor. 12:2, and the 7th planet) on Shabbat (the 7th day).

IN MARK, THE PORTER DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR, BUT HE KNOWS THE DAY

Mark 13:33-37 says, "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time (kairos, set time, due time) is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. WATCH YE THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE COMETH, AT EVEN, OR AT MIDNIGHT, OR AT THE COCKCROWING, OR IN THE MORNING: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." At even, midnight, cockcrowing, or morning is describing the hour. The porter already knows the day.

THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND RAPTURE

Luke 17:28-30 says, "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."

The Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky as the Day of God's Wrath begins. He will be sitting on his throne, because the judgment will be made at the Judgment Seat of Christ that day. The Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place just before God's Wrath hits Earth. Again, we can figure out the day, but not the hour. There will be a Solar Eclipse a little past 6 PM on our previous day, when this Jewish day starts. I think it will be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). It can't be later than 2015, because 1967 + 48 (Mt. 1:17) = 2015.

The Six-Day War of 1967 was the Sign of the End of the Age. It could not be later than 1967, because that was the last year 19-year-old Israel could be called young.

That day, Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, seems locked in place. The Sign of the End of the Age was the Six-Day War of 1967. It couldn't be later than that, because Israel was 19, the last year her branch (klados, a young tender shoot, broken off for grafting) could be considered tender (apalos, soft, tender, i.e., young). A generation from that year is the end of the age. The longest we can count as a generation is 48 years (Mt. 1:17). 1967 + 48 = 2015.


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 12/15/2008 12:20:46 PM PST by STD
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To: STD

Scripture says we won’t know the hour. Which is why Jesus in the parable of the women and the oil said to be ready for you do not know when the master comes.


2 posted on 12/15/2008 12:24:32 PM PST by Patrick1 (conform and celebrate diversity¬Ö.or else!!!)
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To: Patrick1
Ready....

Maranatha! (But, my figuring brings me to anytime in the next 13-84 months.)

3 posted on 12/15/2008 12:26:20 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: STD

wait! where do I send my money?


4 posted on 12/15/2008 12:34:48 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: All; topcat54
....That day, Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, seems locked in place. The Sign of the End of the Age was the Six-Day War of 1967.

It's a long and convoluted path, but according to this author, the Rapture - and then the Seven Year Tribulation - will begin on September 14, 2015. And thus, Christ returns in 2022.

Mark it on your calendars, people!

5 posted on 12/15/2008 12:36:51 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: STD
I'm pretty sure that Jesus' message was not some convoluted Gordian knot-like puzzle whose deciphering by by an uber-Christian will precipitate apocalyptic events. I think the simplicity of the Beatitudes was more like it; something ageless that can be translated into all of the languages of the worlds and not lose it beauty, truth and relevance.
6 posted on 12/15/2008 12:36:55 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: STD

What’s a “Cheshvan”?


7 posted on 12/15/2008 12:37:27 PM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: the invisib1e hand

I suppose, as usual, minorities and women will be hardest hit.


8 posted on 12/15/2008 12:38:46 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: STD

Tishri????


9 posted on 12/15/2008 12:40:07 PM PST by GulfBreeze
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The rapture already occured, and we missed it...


10 posted on 12/15/2008 12:40:39 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Send it to me. I’ll make sure that it is used for good purposes.


11 posted on 12/15/2008 12:42:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
It seems to me that a true Christian should not be overly concerned to that level of detail. Do they wish to procrastinate their repentance ? If not, why such detailed concern ?

Dealing with years and months and days and hours has proven many a man a false prophet...Just look at the history of the Jehova's witnesses (~7 false second coming dates), branch davidians (~3 false second coming dates), the heavens' gaters and Mormons with at least one false second coming date apiece. See referenced quotes below. Is seems enough to me to know that Christ lives, he will return, and possibly within my lifetime. Therefore I will live every day to best of my ability, following his example, trusting that he is in charge, and will come when the time is right.

"President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene." (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).This prophecy was spoken by FLDS/LDS Prophet Joseph Smith in 1835, and recorded by Oliver Cowdery. The fifty-six years were passed by 1891.

Deuteronomy 18:22 (King James Version) 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

12 posted on 12/15/2008 12:43:18 PM PST by SENTINEL (SGT USMC COMBAT VET.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It’s Free Dude!


13 posted on 12/15/2008 12:44:29 PM PST by STD (Go Out to the Nations Preaching the Good News)
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To: Patrick1

Read the article


14 posted on 12/15/2008 12:45:15 PM PST by STD (Go Out to the Nations Preaching the Good News)
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To: STD

“WE CAN KNOW THE DAY and the Hour” - Marilyn Agee

“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” - Jesus

Now, who are you going to trust???


15 posted on 12/15/2008 12:46:12 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: STD
bad link !

16 posted on 12/15/2008 12:47:00 PM PST by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: SENTINEL

There’s a special crown for the Watchmen on the Wall. I’m the worst sinner and fool BTW


17 posted on 12/15/2008 12:47:13 PM PST by STD (Go Out to the Nations Preaching the Good News)
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To: STD

18 posted on 12/15/2008 12:47:56 PM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: STD

Most of us with a Wesleyan background just figure if somethings going to happen it’s going to happen, worrying about the particulars is just getting yourself worked up. We try to live each day as it comes and don’t worry over much about the next one. Theologically speaking.


19 posted on 12/15/2008 12:48:38 PM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Another person that doesn’t read the article. Who’s lazy here?


20 posted on 12/15/2008 12:48:43 PM PST by STD (Go Out to the Nations Preaching the Good News)
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