You wrote:
“Use a bible word and I can discuss it...COOPERATE is not in my NT and it occurs only once in the Catholic DR NT...”
“Working together” appears in 2 Cor. 6:1 as I mentioned way back in post # 127. Here it is again since you have apparently been avoiding it ever since: “Working together with him [Christ], then, we entreat you not to accept the grace of God in vain.” (2 Corinthians 6:1)
“My text says I ‘labor’ with God (not cooperate) as an already saved Christian...”
If you say you’re working WITH someone then you are cooperating with him.
“I don’t take it out of context to mean I labor or ‘cooperate’ with God in attaining salvation...”
There you go again insinuating something that I nor any other Catholic believes. We do not attain salvation by our actions. We cannot become saved, however, when resisting God. Somewhere in your brain - in the brain of every average Protestant - there must be the ability to see that a person cannot attain his own salvation through his own works, yet he must not resist God and His grace for he would be lost if he did so. This is not a difficult concept and it is absolutely correct and irrefutable.
I can do exactly nothing that makes my salvation happen. Yet I can do much to resist God’s grace and lose my soul. I cannot see how you cannot see those simple truths. Yet, clearly, you must not be able to see them because you state such things as this: “...I labor or ‘cooperate’ with God in attaining salvation...”
You can’t attain your own salvation. Neither can I - and I know that’s what you were saying for yourself either. Don’t claim that’s what I believe. I’ll tell you again: I do not believe there is anything I can do that makes my salvation happen. At the same time, I must cooperate with God or I will not be saved because to resist God is to be lost forever.
“Again, you misinterpret the scripture and you change words to achieve that goal...”
I change nothing. “Working together” means “cooperation”. By the way, “cooperation” is from French. Look up 2 Cor. 6:1 in a French Catholic Bible and what do you see? “Et puisque nous sommes ses cooperateurs, nous vous exhortons encore a ne pas recevoir en vain la grace de Dieu.”
You have made false claims about me misinterpreting the scriptures or changing words at least twice now and you’ve been wrong all along. In post #127 you made a bizarre claim that I said we work for our own salvation as a way - apparently - to deny (on your part) exactly what the Bible said when the Apostle Paul tells us: “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you” (Phil. 2:12-13). You apparently did not know, and have avoided commenting upon the fact, that that is EXACTLY how the verse is rendered in the following PROTESTANT translations: ESV, KJV, ASV, Darby Translation, NKJV, 21st Century KJV, Young’s Literal Translation, Holman Christian Standard Bible.
Your own sectarian Bibles prove you wrong.
“Like right now, I labor with God to lead you to the truth...And it ain’t easy...”
I already know the Truth. The reason why you find your task difficult is that you are working AGAINST God while I am COOPERATING with God. I don’t find my task of leading you to the truth difficult at all. God is doing all the hard work. The ease with which the truth is being shown to you is demonstrated by the fact that you avoided for so long the verses I posted.
“These have to do with Morality...THE MORAL LAW...”
Nothing in Galatians goes against ANYTHING I have said. NOTHING.
“Moral, Ceremonial and Social laws combined...”
Again, nothing in Galatians goes against ANYTHING I have said.
“This is just a little more evidence the the Law is all encompassing...How many scriptures do you want???”
Post all you like. They all agree with what I am saying. Nothing you posted in any way goes against anything I said. We must all obey God’s commandments. I asked you if that was true and you, of course, avoided that question. You can continue to create straw man arguments all you like, but it won’t work. As I already said: “We believe you must obey the Ten Commandments, but that we can not earn anything by obeying them. We are saved by grace, but sin (such as violating the Commandments) separates us from God and His grace.” That point completely destroys the straw man you’ve been wasting your time building in several posts even though your efforts were hopeless from the start. Laboring as you are - against God - rather than cooperating with Him isn’t getting you anywhere is it?
This is easy for me. I am cooperating with God. You find this difficult - and you don’t believe in cooperating with God. I don’t believe you can even “labor with” God because you don’t seem to understand what those words mean: cooperation. As long as a man resists cooperating with God and His grace, such difficulty will be his lot.
You just posted a verse that you claim says you have to work for your salvation:
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
You guys claim that you must eat the flesh of Jesus to get eternal salvation...Well, if that's not doing works, what is???
Forgetting that Jesus NEVER told anyone how to go about changing flesh into broken bread, and forgetting that Jesus said, do this (in memory of Me) every time you eat broken bread, Jesus is telling folks to do something for eternal security, according to you guys...
Just like baptism...You MUST be baptized to get the Holy Spirit, or Salvation, depending on which Catholic source you are reading...You must perform a work to get salvation...
And then there is Grace...Does Grace come freely??? Not if you're a Catholic...You can pray to Mary and ask her to dispense some Grace to you...Or you can perform the works of the sacraments and earn some Grace...
But yet you do nothing for salvation...They call that double-speak...