Posted on 01/16/2009 6:45:26 AM PST by Publius804
Jews and the Catholic Church. The Rabbis of Italy Don't Like This Pope
OMA, January 16, 2009 – In the area of geopolitics, the war in Gaza has sharpened the disagreements between the Catholic Church and Israel, as www.chiesa showed in its article on January 4.
The hope is that Benedict XVI's trip to the Holy Land, thought to be scheduled for May, will diminish the mutual misunderstandings. Meanwhile, however, mainly because of Israeli intransigence, there is no progress in the negotiations to implement the 1993 accords between the Holy See and Israel. Nor is there any sign of the willingness to remove from the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem the caption dismissing Pius XII as an accomplice of the Nazi extermination of the Jews.
But even on the most strictly religious terrain, the relationship between the two sides is strewn with obstacles. For January 17, the Italian bishops' conference has announced a "Day for the exploration and development of dialogue between Catholics and Jews." This day has been held every year since 1990, since 2001 the Italian Jewish community has been promoting it together with the bishops, and in 2005 both sides agreed on a ten-year program of reflection on the Ten Commandments. But this time, the Catholic Church is alone. The assembly of Italian rabbis, headed by Giuseppe Laras, has decided to "suspend" Jewish participation in the event.
Laras announced the withdrawal of support last November 18, during a conference on interreligious dialogue held in Rome in the chamber of deputies. And he attributed this to Benedict XVI's decision to introduce into the ancient rite for Good Friday the invocation that God may "enlighten" the hearts of the Jews, "so that they may recognize Jesus Christ, savior of all men."
(Excerpt) Read more at chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it ...
get over it Rabbis. It is a prayer, nothing more...
if they need someone to b!tch and moan about, look to Islam.
I know, I know. Those Jews keep insisting upon defending themselves from the Hamas monsters' attacks... /s
This would be a perfect time for Jews and Christians to unite. For some reason we’re blowing it again.
Not quite. Just another attempt at conversion by the church.
the decision of the assembly of Italian rabbis to suspend their support for the day of Jewish-Christian reflection on January 17 was also move in this direction: "to remove the misunderstanding that Christians and Jews must dialogue on the theological level as well."
The church never stops prosyletizing Jews. And no, Jews won't "get over it".
Serene? If you call living under the bootheel of Muslims serene. Maimonides had a very different opinion.
From a religious perspective there’s really nothing for Jews and Christians to unite over. Remember — We’re talking about two religious groups whose basic religious tenets are diametrically opposed to each other.
And no, Jews won't “get over it”.
right, but Jewish folks will be on the forefront of gun bans and vote in droves for people like Barack Hussein Obama. there is a fatal flaw it appears that make Jewish folks ready to jump into cattle cars....I don't understand this at all, but your are ready to blame Catholics for all your problems.
“The Rabbis of Italy Don’t Like This Pope”
Sometimes I think receiving the dislike of Jews is a sure sign you’re living out the gospel.
I guess I’ve grown cynical.
I'm sorry if the rabbis object to BXVI's conservatism (such as it is), but would be happy to hear that they don't like his interpretation of Genesis. Unfortunately, I doubt that has anything to do with this.
We think our religion says that we have a direct command from God to proselytize Jews, and everyone else.
Your think your religion says you have a direct command from God to resist that proselytism.
Muslims think their religion says they have a direct command from God to kill you.
Given that information, you can go ahead and decide who your friends are, and aren't, on your own.
“Nor is there any sign of the willingness to remove from the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem the caption dismissing Pius XII as an accomplice of the Nazi extermination of the Jews.”
So, saving thousands of Jews personally (even hiding them in your house as Pius did) means you’re an accomplice of the Nazis?
R-I-G-H-T.
get over it Rabbis. It is a prayer, nothing more...
Not quite. Just another attempt at conversion by the church.
the decision of the assembly of Italian rabbis to suspend their support for the day of Jewish-Christian reflection on January 17 was also move in this direction: "to remove the misunderstanding that Christians and Jews must dialogue on the theological level as well."
The church never stops prosyletizing Jews. And no, Jews won't "get over it".
As a Noachide who was Catholic for six years (and therefore no big fan of Catholicism), I must nevertheless repeat my astonishment at the fact that Catholicism proselytizes (because it believes it is true) is considered offensive. Many different religions and secular causes as well proselytize. It's a normal part of human life. As long as no one is forcing anyone to convert against their will or persecuting anyone, why should any religion or cause that believes it is just be required to stop "proselytizing?" Would that Jews were as proselytary for the Noachide Laws!
All this being said, I cannot help but point out that Catholics react to Protestant missionaries in the exact way that Jews do to chr*stian proselytizers. One would think this would strike them as ironic but they never seem to notice.
So why is it that the Catholic Church seems to be the only church in America that doesn't proselytize? And why to Catholics scream bloody murder every time some poor sap knocks at their door and asks "are you saved?"
We do proselytize, although perhaps not in the way you're used to seeing Protestants do it. (There are theological reasons for that; it's not only cultural.)
And why to Catholics scream bloody murder every time some poor sap knocks at their door and asks "are you saved?"
Because those Catholics are the ones who don't know their faith.
Could have fooled me. I certainly had to make every move on my own when I investigated Catholicism.
although perhaps not in the way you're used to seeing Protestants do it. (There are theological reasons for that; it's not only cultural.)
If you're referring to the tendency of the liturgical churches to increase membership via treaties signed between the heads of churches (by which masses of people go to bed as members of one church and wake up as members of another without even being aware of it) then I must admit that I prefer the Protestant way.
Nope.
On an unrelated issue, people who think that the relationship between Jews and Muslims is "serene" or "productive" should read this.
I know, I know. Those Jews keep insisting upon defending themselves from the Hamas monsters' attacks... /s
Oh, stop! How does the refusal to implement accords already signed by Israel on the treatment of Christian sites and institutions relate to defending themselves from Hamas?
The Only one who will be successful to most Jews on who Jesus Christ truly is will be GOD himself.
But the Church should prosyletize to Jews and Gentiles as Jews and Christians should prosyletizie to Atheists and Agnostics and Pagans...IMO..
Everyone should know about GOD and Jesus Christ but what they decide to do about it is up to them as GOD gave us that will which is FREE...
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