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Just when I thought I could say "Amen" (Rick Warren invokes the name of Islamic Jesus...)
Take a Stand Ministries ^ | 1-21-09 | Eric Barger

Posted on 01/24/2009 2:22:21 PM PST by 444Flyer

There I was, watching all the regalia of the presidential inauguration. The crowds, the dignataries...(snip) Of course, I was also waiting to see just what kind of prayer Rick Warren had co-opted to pray for the new incoming President and his administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at ericbarger.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: bhoinauguration; dogpile; dumberthandirt; idiotalert; islam; kickwarren; koran; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; purposedrivenhate; quran; rickwarren; stuckonstupid
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To: 444Flyer
The fuss is that the Lord warned against following after false christs and a pastor has no business elevating the name of the false jesus of Islam before the world.

Can't be said too often...

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Exo 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The name of Jesus is equated with the name of God...

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Apparently there was a muzlim in the crowd that Rick Warren didn't want to offend...

Isa is not Jesus...Rick should have skipped Isa and used 'Allah' in it's place...The muzlims then would have understood what Rick was trying to imply...But then Rick may have gotten back-handed by someone close by...

Of course it's possible Rick Warren doesn't know the difference betwen Jesus and Isa, as so many religous folk here in the U.S...

41 posted on 01/24/2009 9:21:54 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Absolutely.

I can't judge Warren's heart only his actions. His actions tell me he has been to Syria, which leads me to believe he read up on his Islamic terminology. He is also a board member of Tony Blair's ecumenical “Faith Foundation”. Tony Blair recently announced that he reads the Qur’an regularly. It will be very hard for Warren to play dumb on this issue.

42 posted on 01/24/2009 9:38:29 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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To: Iscool

He’s also a member of the Council of Foreign Relations which takes an slightly above average I.Q..


43 posted on 01/24/2009 9:59:47 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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To: 444Flyer

of=on


44 posted on 01/24/2009 10:01:03 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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Kick Warren thread.


45 posted on 01/24/2009 10:43:14 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines

I usually don’t kick ‘em til they’re down...But I made an exception in Rick Warren’s case...


46 posted on 01/25/2009 12:19:26 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Titanites
If you're not aware of what a joke is, that whole humor thing must be very confusing for you.

I have a well developed sense of humor, Titanites. Jokes provide amusement. Your reply did not. No confusion on my end.

47 posted on 01/25/2009 10:07:36 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: brytlea

My apologies for sounding overbearing. I was looking for a pst in response to which I could make my point. You seemed the most likely. The thought was not directed at you but was an attempt to insert a moment of severe gravity.

Love you right back. The Lord is, indeed, in control, but perhaps not of the economy or other human devices. These are our little traps that we lay for ourselves. Right now it appears those who oppose His dominion are in control.


48 posted on 01/25/2009 10:12:55 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Your reply did not.

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49 posted on 01/25/2009 10:26:22 AM PST by Titanites
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To: 444Flyer

Warren has always been more into himself than anything else. Since he has already bilked a lot of evangelicals out of their money, he is looking to get into the Islamic market.


50 posted on 01/25/2009 12:10:18 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Oh, I have grave concerns. In fact, it occurred to me that perhaps what’s going on now IS some wrath. As a nation we certainly are less than pleasing. At any rate, I’m not sure how those who don’t know who is really in control and how it will all end up eventually manage to sleep at night. Life is scary, and if I thought this was all there was, I’d be really terrified.
BTW thanks for keeping with the message. You never know who hears something and it makes all the difference in their lives! God Bless you!


51 posted on 01/25/2009 12:37:07 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: 444Flyer
"Isa" is the Arabic pronunciation of Jesus. Arabic-speaking Christians call Jesus "Isa."

You do know that "Jesus" was not the original Hebrew pronunciation, don't you?

52 posted on 01/25/2009 12:48:30 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Actually, Arabic-speaking Christians call Him “Yaso’a”, which is the correct Arabic name of Jesus used long before Islam was invented by Muhammad.
53 posted on 01/25/2009 3:42:20 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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To: brytlea
“...Life is scary, and if I thought this was all there was, I'd be really terrified..”

Amen to that FRiend. Life is very hard. How do people do it without Jesus Christ? He's all I have and cling to these days.

54 posted on 01/25/2009 3:49:52 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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To: 444Flyer

Of course, Isa is not Islamic, it is Arabic. Jesus was not His name either, but you don’t hear people getting upset about that.


55 posted on 01/26/2009 6:44:33 AM PST by McDuffBlewOnHisBagPipes
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To: McDuffBlewOnHisBagPipes
First off. Welcome to FR McDuff.:)

“Of course, Isa is not Islamic,...”

According to the Qur’an it is.

“...it is Arabic.”

It is Arabic in Islam.

“Jesus was not His name either, but you don't hear people getting upset about that.”

The Greek translation was “Iesous Christos” translated “Jesus Christ” in English.

Warren also left off Jesus Christ's Messianic title in the other three language references. It was a “subtlety” that can't be ignored. His Messianic title is an offense to those who are being led astray and demonstrates that He and He alone is Savior and Lord.

Corinthians 11:3-4:

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

56 posted on 01/26/2009 8:37:54 AM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........................................................Repent Herod!)
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To: 444Flyer

Well, looks like McDuffBlewOnHisBagPipes was banned somewhere between Jan. and now. Hmmmmmmmm


57 posted on 09/26/2009 3:41:24 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Saoirise
McDuffBlewOnHisBagPipes...

What can we say about McDuff?

No. This ISN'T McDuff, but it's possible he bares a strong resemblance now doesn't it?

However, I highly doubt THIS guy would get banned from FR!

58 posted on 09/26/2009 6:57:18 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Saoirise; HollyB

And now...a requiem.

...at least I think its a requiem.

..its all Scottish to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTAXn5o8Q4Q&feature=related


59 posted on 09/26/2009 7:00:37 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Saoirise
Yes. The last guy was a bit challenged to say the least. But, it was in the Highland's setting.

So, I owe you another one.

“Scottish Bagpipes - Scotland The Brave The Meeting Of The Waters”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q61XZZpIv0

“On hieland pipes, Scotte and Hybernicke / Let heir be shraichs of deadlie clarions.”

60 posted on 09/26/2009 9:06:32 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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