Posted on 01/26/2009 4:21:09 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
As we read in Seven Years to the Day (Part 2), Almighty God has determined 70 Weeks or 490 years for the nation of Israel: 1) To finish the transgression; 2) To make an end of sins; 3) To make reconciliation (atonement) for iniquity. These events have been fulfilled. The remaining events which will be fulfilled in the the last week of the 70 will be; 4) To bring in everlasting righteousness; 5) To seal up the vision and prophecy; and 6) To anoint the most holy place (Daniel 9:24). This last week of 7 years (the 70th Week of Daniel) is also called the Great Tribulation Period, the Age of Lawlessness, the Day of Wrath, and the Time of Jacob’s Trouble. Each and all of these titles do not suggest pleasant things to come. As a matter of fact, this Last Week of Daniel's 70 will be the most horrific episode ever experienced in the world since time began.
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Repeat after me, “There is no gap between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9.”
The Hebrew language does not allow for any gap. The context and subject does not allow for any gap. No serious Hebrew scholar theorizes a gap in Daniel 9:26.
The gap only exists in the mind of futurists who ignore basic rules of language and grammar and arbitrarily slice and dice the Bible to suit their theological presuppositions.
Daniel 9:24-27 was fulfilled at the first coming of Jesus Christ, to bring salvation to His people, Israel, and all the nations.
"The following ten points provide solid evidence that Daniel’s 70th week doesn’t refer to any future Tribulation at all. Rather, it was fulfilled nearly two thousand years ago.The 70th Week of Daniel Delusion
- The prophecy of “seventy weeks” means seventy straight sequential weeks. There is no example in Scripture (or anywhere else!) of a time period starting, stopping, and then starting again. All biblical references to time are consecutive: 40 days and 40 nights (Genesis 7:4), 400 years in Egypt (Genesis 15:13), etc.
- The 70th week follows immediately after the 69th week. If it doesn’t, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week!
- It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and 70th week. There is no gap between the first seven weeks and sixty-two weeks. Why insert one between the 69th and 70th week?
- Daniel 9:27 says nothing about any “tribulation,” “rebuilt” Jewish temple, or “antichrist.” Zero.
- Daniel 9:24-27’s focus is the Messiah. After the Messiah is “cut off” (referring to Christ’s death), “the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.” This refers to the destruction of Jerusalem by Roman armies led by Prince Titus in A.D. 70. (4)
- “He shall confirm the covenant.” Paul said “the covenant” was “confirmed before by God in Christ” (Galatians 3:17). Jesus Christ came “to confirm the promises made to the fathers” (Romans 15:8). The word “covenant” is Messianic, and always applies to the Messiah, not antichrist.
- “He shall confirm the covenant with many.” Jesus said, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many…” (Matthew 26:28). Jesus was quoting Daniel 9:27 specifically.
- “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice…to cease.” After 3 ½ years of ministry, Jesus Christ’s death put an end to all sacrifices in God’s sight. He is the final Sacrifice!
- “For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate” (Daniel 9:27, KJV). It was abominable for the Jewish leaders to put God’s Son to death. This ended their temple. Jesus predicted, “Your house is left to you desolate” (Matthew 23:38).
- The 70 weeks applied to the Jewish people (Daniel 9:24). Christ’s public ministry lasted 3 ½ years during which His focus was “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:6). After His resurrection and then for another 3 ½ years, His disciples preached mostly to Jews (see Acts 1-6). When the Jewish Sanhedrin stoned Stephen in 34 AD (see Acts 7), the gospel shifted to the Gentiles (see Acts 13:46)–exactly as prophecy predicted.
In the love of the Savior of the world,
Dave
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http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/reformed/pretjv01.htm
So-called "biblical despensationism" (sic) is a fraudulent system. It is not the truth of the Bible. It was invented during a time in the Church when many false systems were being put forward as truth; Mormonism, Millerites, Jehovah’s Witnesses. Dispensationalism is just another false system.
The fact is that it has no support in the testimony of the ancient Church up until the time of the protestant Reformation.
It is loved by the “no creed but Christ” rudderless churches that abound in this country, and who specialize in speculation and newspaper eschatology.
Dispensational futurism is a tool of the devil.
But there is further reason, and a pressing one today, why we should write upon our present subject, and that is to expose the modern and pernicious error of Dispensationalism [emph. added]. This is a device of the Enemy, designed to rob the children of no small part of that bread which their heavenly Father has provided for their souls; a device wherein the wily serpent appears as an angel of light, feigning to "make the Bible a new book" by simplifying much in it which perplexes the spiritually unlearned. It is sad to see how widely successful the devil has been by means of this subtle innovation. It is likely that some of our own readers, when perusing the articles upon the interpretation of the Scriptures, felt more than once that we were taking an undue liberty with Holy Writ, that we made use of certain passages in a way altogether unjustifiable, that we appropriated to the saints of this Christian era what does not belong to them but is rather addressed unto those who lived in an entirely different dispensation of the past, or one which is yet future. (AW Pink, A Study of Dispensationalism)
I believe that we are in that LAST WEEK OF DANIEL..The 70th week..As we see more govt’s topple a world wide recession, one thing we do know is that the world in now out of the hands of man....
Judgement Day- The DAY of the LORD is imminent.
Topcat- Where do you find in the Olivet Discourse that Jesus was only speaking to the Jews of his time..
We do not live our life in an isolated segment of time. What is happening today in the affairs and councils of men is bringing to pass what our Lord says will occur.
We can often trace the connection if we see the events of our day in the light of what he says in this discourse. The great and supreme question is not, what shall I do with my life, or what can I make of it, but, how does it relate to what God is doing? When God is through with history, this is the way it will be. What part will I have played in the process? These are the questions this Olivet Discourse forces upon us.
we are in that LAST WEEK OF DANIEL.
And have been since Pentecost.
Jesus was speaking directly to His disciples (who were all Jewish) and to the generation of Jews in that day. Matt. 24:34. Throughout vv 4-34 we find language like:
Take heed that no one deceives you. (v. 4)It was Jews who lived in Judea of that day.And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. (v.6)
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake. (v.9)
then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (v. 16)
The language of the Olivet Discourse is most appropriate for that day and age. The Jewish nation, and Jerusalem in particular, was about to undergo the “days of vengeance” when God would pour out His wrath on that nation via the agency of the Roman army for their treatment of the prophets and the “son of the landowner” (Matt. 21: 33ff; 23:34ff).
While the message of the Bible is timeless, some portions have direct application to specific people and places. E.g., there is no future judgment of Israel. That judgment spoken of in the gospels by Jesus is long past. Those folks who teach a future judgment of Israel are just plain wrong.
The last week will comense at the confirming of a treaty in which the man of Europe, the reveal Anti Christ will confirm (strengthen mightily) with Israel. that event has not happened yet..so we are not in the Last week of Daniel. It's only seven years long not 2000...
Even so come Lord Jesus! Dave
Sadly, it appears you are in no position to make that judgment, which is based entirely on speculation not Scripture.
While we are part of the blessing of that last week, especially of the covenant Jesus made with “the many”, we are no longer in the last week itself. That ended in the 1st century.
Judgement Day- The DAY of the LORD is imminent.
Oh, a novice.
...I’m not saying that to impress anyone
Good thing. Did you ever hear the one about the fellow who lived through the Johnstown flood and who was all impressed with himself until he died and met Noah in heaven?
I have research the endless positions at hand..so..I'm sticking to my guns.
Well, good for you. Don’t be surprised when the rest of us don’t swallow this nonsense.
The last week will comense at the confirming of a treaty in which the man of Europe,
“Man of Europe”? Is that the best your 1000 hours of Bible study can come up with? I suspect you’ve been reading one too many, poorly written Left Behind novels.
I have research the endless positions at hand..so
Be happy to point you to resources, if you're genuinely interested.
Man..you guys are tough... wooo..nelly! lol! I only stated that to state that my opinions are not the thoughts of a cult or apostate teachings etc..and I'm rooted in what I believe and have searched it out. If that offends you sorry. I can see that it bothered you by your sarcasm and snide remarks...hey that cool...Usually people react that way when they are offend. I am not offend because truth does not get offended....
What denominations or cults are you all from..lol!
wow..topcat your quite the pistle...You’ll persuade alot of people with that fine biblical attitude. the fruit if the Spirit is WRATH,STRIFE,...OOPS...THATS THE WORKS OF THE FLESH... lol...sPEAKS VOLUMES ...my brother...
What cult are you from....lol
I would also like to introduce this Spiritual Thought based on Scripture why we might be in the last week of Daniel and why the Rapture of the Church should happen and why the USA might not significant in the End Days...
The first prince introduced in the 70 wk. prophecy is “an anointed one, the ruler who comes”. Remember, he will be the ruler of all the earth for the time limit of his reign. Paul calls him:
2 Thess. 2:3 (NEB) — “Wickedness that will be revealed in human form.”
2 Thess. 2:7 (KJV) — For the mystery of iniquity doth already work. — Even him whose working is after the working of Satan.
This mystery of iniquity will be revealed when he comes as an anointed one, and claiming to be the savior of the world.
He is also called the false prophet. Christ is the true prophet. Notice the intimate family connection this anointed one has with Satan at the time the angel with the sixth plague pours it on the earth.
Rev. 16:13,14 — Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon (Satan) out of the mouth of the beast (who has Satan’s logo i.e. 7 heads and ten horns) And out of the mouth of the false prophet. (Satan personified as a man)
FIRST- The amount of Christians currently on earth, would never ever believe a MAN no matter how wonderful he might be and great things he might do as GOD or the Saviour, for that matter even un-believers, other religions and Atheists would not embrace anyone claiming to be GOD at this point and time in the world...
HOWEVER:
If the Rapture did happen (And I think it will) how many Christians alone would be removed from the USA? I would say the USA would be *TOP* on the list of nations in the world to see people just disappear. Now what would happen to the USA at that point? how would they explain to the people left, what just happened? and how would the USA continue to remain a Global Superpower?
At this point the Antichrist could easily fool the world who he was..WHY? because a Man who could perform miracles on earth, bring PEACE to a world that was left with Un-believers would now be looking for GOD..
Maybe that is why Jesus emphasized..*DO NOT LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU* Jesus would not have to say this to *HIS CHURCH* but the ones left on the earth...(That just makes common sense as well)
FROM THE UP-COMING BOOK:
The American Apocalypse
One factor, I think, really stands out from the growing list of perils facing our nation. The greatest threat to the well-being of America is not our dependence on foreign oil, terrorism, the national debt, nuclear war, or moral decay. What will likely doom the United States is the rapture of the Church.
Hi All,
Just wanted to hear what you think of my Post #16
May be tonight etc. before I get to it.
Thx.
I may be a pistle (sic), but face it, when you’re wrong, you’re wrong. You don’t need to make excuses about my “attitude”. Your bad theology speaks volumes.
What cult are you from....lol
That’s funny coming from one with an eschatological outlook less than 200 years old and unrecognized in the majority of the Church.
You still didn’t say where in your 1000 hours of bible study you got the “man of Europe” stuff from.
You said — “The greatest threat to the well-being of America is not our dependence on foreign oil, terrorism, the national debt, nuclear war, or moral decay. What will likely doom the United States is the rapture of the Church.”
Yes, of all the reasons for why the U.S. doesn’t seem to play a big role in Biblical prophecies concerning Israel — the Rapture does seem to be at the top of the list. This would devastate the U.S. more than many other countries, I would say.
I think the U.S. will still be around, though, even after that. It just won’t be as big a role as it might have been, without the Rapture.
As far as being “inside” the 70th “week” of Daniel (those last 7 years before Christ returns to the earth, to set up the Kingdom on earth) — well..., I just don’t see the construction for the Temple starting...?? That’s a real big problem [!!] because at day 1,260 into the beginning of the Tribulation the Antichrist “who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [2 Thessalonians 2:4].
Also, one more thing, Israel is not residing securely within its borders at this point in time. And at that future time, Israel does. It does appear that there is “more setting up’ to be done... [you might check out the book Isralestine for more information on that subject...].
http://www.amazon.com/dp/098149577X
So, no..., we’re not inside the 7 year Tribulation period, but probably really close...
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