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"God Became Man So That Man Might Become A God." (Ecumentical)
Joy Peace Hope ^ | St. Athanasius

Posted on 02/14/2009 9:43:20 AM PST by restornu

"God Became Man So That Man Might Become A God." St. Athanasius

... when the intellect has been perfected, it unites wholly with God and is illumined by divine light, and the most hidden mysteries are revealed to it. Then it truly learns where wisdom and power lie... While it is still fighting against the passions it cannot as yet enjoy these things... But once the battle is over and it is found worthy of spiritual gifts, then it becomes wholly luminous, powerfully energized by grace and rooted in the contemplation of spiritual realities. A person in whom this happens is not attached to the things of this world but has passed from death to life." St. Thalassios, "On Love, Self-control and Life in accordance with the Intellect" Philokalia (Vol. 2)", p. 355)

'Can a man take fire into his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?' (Prov. 6:27) says the wise Solomon. And I say: can he, who has in his heart the Divine fire of the Holy Spirit burning naked, not be set on fire, not shine and glitter and not take on the radiance of the Deity in the degree of his purification and penetration by fire? For penetration by fire follows upon purification of the heart, and again purification of the heart follows upon penetration by fire, that is, inasmuch as the heart is purified, so it receives Divine grace, and again inasmuch as it receives grace, so it is purified. When this is completed (that is, purification of heart and acquisition of grace have attained their fullness and perfection), through grace a man becomes wholly a god." St. Simeon the New Theologian (Practical and Theological Precepts no. 94, Writings from the Philokalia on Prayer of the Heart; Faber and Faber pgs. 118-199)


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1 posted on 02/14/2009 9:43:20 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
"God Became Man So That Man Might Become A God." St. Athanasius

How dare that mormon say man can become a god. /wink

2 posted on 02/14/2009 9:52:40 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: restornu

There is only one God and there is no other. His name is Jesus Christ. He is the name of the Father the name of the Son and the name of the Holy Ghost.

We are the son’s of God but we are not a God or anything other than members of the body of Christ.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 9:54:33 AM PST by shineon
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To: restornu
St. Athanasius did not say "a God".

54. The Word Incarnate, as is the case with the Invisible God, is known to us by His works. By them we recognise His deifying mission. Let us be content to enumerate a few of them, leaving their dazzling plentitude to him who will behold.

As, then, if a man should wish to see God, Who is invisible by nature and not seen at all, he may know and apprehend Him from His works: so let him who fails to see Christ with his understanding, at least apprehend Him by the works of His body, and test whether they be human works or God's works. 2. And if they be human, let him scoff; but if they are not human, but of God, let him recognise it, and not laugh at what is no matter for scoffing; but rather let him marvel that by so ordinary a means things divine have been manifested to us, and that by death immortality has reached to all, and that by the Word becoming man, the universal Providence has been known, and its Giver and Artificer the very Word of God. 3. For He was made man that we might be made God ; and He manifested Himself by a body that we might receive the idea of the unseen Father; and He endured the insolence of men that we might inherit immortality. For while He Himself was in no way injured, being impossible and incorruptible and very Word and God, men who were suffering, and for whose sakes He endured all this, He maintained and preserved in His own impassibility. 4. And, in a word, the achievements of the Saviour, resulting from His becoming man, are of such kind and number, that if one should wish to enumerate them, he may be compared to men who gaze at the expanse of the sea and wish to count its waves. For as one cannot take in the whole of the waves with his eyes, for those which are coming on baffle the sense of him that attempts it; so for him that would take in all the achievements of Christ in the body, it is impossible to take in the whole, even by reckoning them up, as those which go beyond his thought are more than those he thinks he has taken in. 5. Better is it, then, not to aim at speaking of the whole, where one cannot do justice even to a part, but, after mentioning one more, to leave the whole for you to marvel at. For all alike are marvellous, and wherever a man turns his glance, he may behold on that side the divinity of the Word, and be struck with exceeding great awe.

On the Incarnation of the Word


4 posted on 02/14/2009 9:57:25 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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Interesting history of awareness

http://frimmin.com/faith/theosis.php


5 posted on 02/14/2009 9:57:28 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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To: annalex

take this up with this site

http://joypeacehope.blogspot.com/2007/11/god-became-man-so-that-man-might-become.html


6 posted on 02/14/2009 10:02:36 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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To: shineon

Just for the record.


7 posted on 02/14/2009 10:03:04 AM PST by shineon
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To: annalex

Celtic Christian Spirituality From the beginning of the life of the early Christian Church, ... St. Athanasios of Alexandria states that God became man so that man might become god.13a .... is captured in a Celtic proverb: “As the floor is swept every day, so is the ...

http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/general/celtic.aspx

Who knows..


8 posted on 02/14/2009 10:06:48 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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To: restornu
So That Man Might Become A God.

I'm sure Athanasius did not mean God above in the LITERAL sense to equate it to the ONE TRUE GOD.
9 posted on 02/14/2009 10:10:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: restornu

“A God” is a bad translation. Athanasius wrote in Greek; it has no indefinite article at all. From the context it is clear that it is of the same God that is the Word that we are partaking in some way.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 10:12:07 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: shineon

There is only one God and there is no other. His name is Jesus Christ. He is the name of the Father the name of the Son and the name of the Holy Ghost.

We are the son’s of God but we are not a God or anything other than members of the body of Christ.

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Did not Jesus become man so man could become joint heirs?

1 Tim 3

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Romans 8

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified togeth


11 posted on 02/14/2009 10:12:20 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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Must leave now


12 posted on 02/14/2009 10:13:10 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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To: restornu

NO


13 posted on 02/14/2009 10:13:54 AM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: restornu

Even so, the pot can never become the potter.


14 posted on 02/14/2009 10:20:27 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

We-can-all-become-gods nonsense ping


15 posted on 02/14/2009 10:24:58 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Domandred

The problem in much of Christianity is that they don’t really accept ancient credes and their understanding of salvation. The reason they so emphasized that JEsus Christ has two natures (fully God and fully man) is that Christians are now his brothers and also must share His two natures.

There is one person, Jesus Christ who is a Divine Person (The Son). We will never become Divine persons, but if we do not take on His nature, then He did not take on ours and there is no Christianity.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 10:35:40 AM PST by Rippin
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To: Amos the Prophet

Even so, the pot can never become the potter.


The Potter is not an essence, He is a person. The question is whether the Potter became clay, and whether the clay was transfigured.


17 posted on 02/14/2009 10:37:14 AM PST by Rippin
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To: Amos the Prophet

Amen!

The Lord makes that known look what happen to Lucifer/Satan!


18 posted on 02/14/2009 10:39:45 AM PST by restornu (“God became man, so that man might become God.” — Early Christian Proverb)
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To: restornu

look what happen to Lucifer/Satan!
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He became a pot ?????


19 posted on 02/14/2009 10:44:49 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: shineon
There is only one God and there is no other. His name is Jesus Christ. He is the name of the Father the name of the Son and the name of the Holy Ghost.

We are the son’s of God but we are not a God or anything other than members of the body of Christ.

shineon Since Jul 22, 2003

Graybeard58 Since Jul 22, 2003

(I agree with your reply too).

20 posted on 02/14/2009 10:45:53 AM PST by Graybeard58
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