Posted on 03/30/2009 2:01:29 PM PDT by delacoert
It was suggested that being anti-Mormon is the new politically correct anti-semitism given what happened to Romney in Dixie. There are some problems with that concept especially down in Dixie. The first that comes to mind is when did anyone ever accuse Dixie of being poltically correct. But on a more serious note, any Mormon who had lived awhile in either the South or the Midwest could not have been very surprised that Romney took a shellacing in the Midwest and the South.
The fact that religious prejudice reared it's ugly head and took a bite out of the only faithful neo-conservative in the Republican ranks serves notice on wealth oriented Republicans that there is a price to be paid in mining the legions of intolerance. That price is they have to recognize that the Solid Republican South created by Reagan was built upon the conversion of the formerly Solid Democratic South resulting from the passage under Lyndon Johnson of the Civil Rights Act.
It is a tiger of intolerance whether racist or bigotry which the Forbesian/Limbaugh/Newt Gingrich crowd can't dismount even when they want to. The Evangelical minister from Iowa that candidly admitted that his colleagues were going to have a tough time telling their congregations to vote for a candidate who had a religious affiliation with what they had been preaching against for decades even if he was standing up for their political objectives.
It's that weird thing about wedding yourself to a brand of religious freedom which is translated as meaning freedom to believe as the Evangelicals believe that gets in the way.
But now, after the election and in the wake of Proposition 8, a Mormon neo-conservative like Romney has an even bigger problem. Now he not only would have to overcome the ill-deserved bigotry of the South, but he would also be subjected to the fury of some moderates who feel that the gays got unfairly treated in part because of Mormon influence with regards to that vote in California. While it is true that "log cabin" Republicans are not a particularly large portion of the Republican party -- those who sympathize with the gays do include a fair number of the moderates. So now the difficulty for a Mormon Republican becomes nearly insurmountable since such a candidate is likely to get attacked by both sides of his party.
In addition, the occasional Mormon politician in the Northeast who might aspire to office is going to find him or herself in a true political N'oreaster whether he or she really cares about same sex marriage or not. If you are Mormon you were already likely to be assumed to be Republican (it's amazing that nobody seems to ever remember Harry Reid's religious persuasion), but now you will be assumed to be a homophobe as well. Of course, it has been said by others that being anti-gay is the last palatable discrimination -- so maybe we deserve it.
I have great respect for President Bush and believe he was a fine President in many ways. But I still took the time to call or e-mail when I disagreed with him.
Maybe I'm not the type of person you'd classify as a "Bush-bot", but I've been called that many times because I've defended him against the Bush haters we have here on FR. They act as though Bush didn't do a single thing right. What hogwash.
Methinks McNaughton applies his shellacking with too broad a brush.
The South and the Midwest are very large areas, and Romney was actually born in the Midwest. His father was Governor of Michigan in the 1960s.
Mitt won the primary there and came in second in Iowa. So I doubt they really hate Mormons there.
McNaughton's probably more on target about Los Angeles and San Francisco wanting to take Prop. 8 out on the Mormons.
Taliban are conservative too.
And how would LA or San Fran be anymore hostile to a Bishop, or high member of any other main stream religion, or an observant Jew like Lieberman?
Well they wouldn’t be anymore hostile.
Conservatism to Islamofacists and Americans mean completely different things. Taliban would have voted overwhelmingly for Oba Mao in our last election whereas Mormons voted overwhelmingly for Sarah Palin.
I did not support Romney because he is not a conservative. I do take a lot of crap off of supposedly intelligent Freepers because I am a member of the LDS Church.
A bathtub with a fan attached does not a hovercraft make.
yea, that would be a problem if CA was in play for the general or if those gay fascists voted in R primaries.
Terrible your syntax a sentence not make.
The Supreme Court has Mohammad, the Law Giver on it’s facade. Mohammad was seen as an agent of progress against pagan Arabs.
Further there is a lot of Nordic socialism in Mormon thought and cultural recruitment and ideas from up state New York, across the Mid West.
Frankly, Mormon thought, conservatism, radicalism of its core religious thinking is a mess.
I wouldn’t be so sure nor strong about Mormons and conservative thinking if you meant limited government and free enterprise. The very ideas of Nauvoo, and later Utah, are very oppressive with the idea of total Mormon control, through government( amongst other institutions ). Not to mention the close knit, clannish, economics, for better or worse.
One of the things that I think made RomneyCare so attractive to Mitt was his coming from an, to me, smothering, even blood libal in older times, patriartical, elders know best, Nordic, and close set Mormon ideas of the relationship of the individual, the state and the religion. Something the Taliban, Communists, even nice Swedish leftists feel. The foundations are the same, very very close tabs and various group pressures on the individual.
Drat. So you're sayin' my patten application might not go through?
A Jedi master, it does.
Thank You!
Well, you got me...I refused to vote for Romney because he is a Morman...But it didn’t matter...He is a Rino Globalist as well...So he didn’t stand a chance with me...
“It was suggested that being anti-Mormon is the new politically correct anti-semitism given what happened to Romney in Dixie”
Or maybe they just don’t like Taxachusetts liberals.
Actually blacks have a strong dislike for Mormons. They don’t like the fact that the Mormon church did not allow blacks to be Elders until 1978. Also blacks resent Mormons being as GOP as they are Dem.
I used to work in the South Side of Chicago during the 1990’s. When the Chicago Bulls were playing the Utah Jazz for the NBA championship, my black co-workers were saying nasty things about Mormons.
The black problem can't be helped by the fact that for so many years Mitt Romney spread the lie that he and his father had marched with Martin Luther King.
To find out that the story involving the martyred black hero was entirely made up in Mitt's head must have seemed a little vampire like to blacks. Throw that in with the institutional racism of the Mormon organization and it is ugly business.
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