Posted on 04/06/2009 4:48:19 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
INDEED!
Nor a crispy critter!
I totally agree! I sure don’t want to hang around for some tribulation grief bone breaking hard times. It would be just dandy if the Lord took me out before then. But, I am also prepared to stick it out and try to bring as many others to Christ as possible. Whatever He wants of me...
I have sometimes felt that
SOME selected collection of individuals would have a choice.
To stay and do great exploits or to leave on the first ELEVATOR !UP!
I want the first ELEVATOR !UP!
Though, IF I could be guaranteed that I wouldn’t deny my Lord etc. . . . and that I’d OVERCOME BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND THE WORD OF MY TESTIMONY
AND IT WOULD BE THE FATHER’S PLEASURE THAT I STAY AND DO GREAT EXPLOITS . . . I
MIGHT
be inclined to CONSIDER it a few microseconds.
Dear me!
May God forbid that I need to do such a thing! I’m too often a weak kneed silly rabbit for such adventures!
LOL.
Cheers.
Taking my threatened Bronchial tubes back to bed.
Prayers would be nice.
Blessings to all.
How can people who are living stones (saved) who have the seal of the Holy Spirit not be the Bride. God says He is not a respecter of persons and all saved persons are the elect of God but these people who are saved during the Tribulation. The only logical and biblical answer is that we all will meet Him in the air, some dead, some alive. Because the word says all not some and then more it says that when He appears that He will gather all of us together.
So either Christ come back at the 7th (last) trump after the tribulation prior to the wrath and gathers all of His body His Bride, or the doctrine of the two part rapture and 2nd comings creates a class of believers that is not found in the bible who are not the Bride who are not the Church who are not the New Jerusalem.
As my original question who are they under the two part rapture and 2nd coming?
I don’t understand this . . . fierce urge to find a label.
They are . . . SAVED, OVERCOMERS . . .
and, seems to me, part of The Bride.
The millenial reign of Christ will have mortals who’ve survived Tribulation . . . the meek who inherit the earth.
Won’t at least a portion of those also be SAVED IN CHRIST?
What would you call those folks?
I don’t think “toadstools” would quite fit.
As I have asked and will still ask what are the tribulation saints? They are not the bride she is in heaven for the marriage. They are not the church because the church is the bride. They are not the new Jerusalem because the new Jerusalem is the is the bride who is made up of the living stones the saints.
So who and what are they? Please tell me where do they fit in since they are not the Bride they are not the New Jerusalem.
I gave you reasonable answers to those questions.
You answered none of mine.
So who and what are they? Please tell me where do they fit in since they are not the Bride they are not the New Jerusalem.
That’s a pretty huge non-sequitur, to me.
Seems like you arbitrarily have decided that they are not part of The Bride.
Is it your fantasy that when God says . . .
THOSE WHO CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED . . .
THAT THOSE . . . who are thusly saved . . . at whatever point you arbitrarily decide the cutoff point is . . . miss out on being any part of THE BRIDE?
And how do you support THAT in Scripture?
How is it that you have arrived at the fantasy that ALMIGHTY GOD does
NOT
have the power nor authority to declare every SAVED person
REGARDLESS OF SEQUENCE OR TIMING OF THEIR BEING SAVED
AS PART OF THE BRIDE?
And when did ALMIGHTY GOD invite you to limit HIS options in the matter?
They are not the NEW JERUSALEM?
Uhhhhh . . . . OOOOOOOOOK . . .
They are not New Chicago either.
They are not Disney World either.
They are not a Mack Truck either.
They are not a Humvee either.
They are not a 747 either.
They are not an ocean tanker either.
They are not a cruise ship either.
Therefore?
I understand that you do NOT understand what I posted. You believe that you won't have to be here when the 'bad' stuff happens. And even though that Paul in all his writings nowhere repeats what is claimed he was saying in his first writing, people still believe they are destined to NOT face the supposed tribulation. Reality is they do not have a clue what the tribulation is.
What is the tribulation? OR who is the tribulation? Christ set the example, who tempted him and what was He offered, and by whom did this offering come? Twisting scripture of course the devil is the scripture lawyer and he know scripture better than the majority of Christians. And he know what scriptures to use to seduce as Paul says. That is the tribulation, and Christ said all but the elect would be deceived if they were still here alive in flesh body.
Christ is described as coming as a thief in the night. This is describing 'conditions' and how is it that a thief could make a move in the night? Well because the 'watchman' is no longer watching, because the 'watchman' thinks that 'Jesus' has come to take them away.
Paul says the 'battle' or tribulation is NOT of flesh and blood. The instead of Jesus is coming first and he will be promising that 'rapture' so many believe they are destined to be taken.
Well I am sure not expecting no matter how much of Christ's own Words I type that unless it be the will of the Heavenly Father I am going to change minds. Plant maybe a seed of truth but even that germination comes at the Hand of the Heavenly Father though our Saviour Christ.
SMALL STRAWS IN A SOFT WIND by Marsha Burns — April 7, 2009:
Beloved, you are in the flow of destiny, and I am bringing you along the time line of purpose. Even though you catch a glimpse of course changes that await, you must stay mentally and emotionally in the present. Be steadfast and faithful by maintaining spiritual focus. Timing is everything, and it would be a mistake to try to force any issue to obtain the goal. Wait patiently for My leading and trust that I indeed go before you to clear the path and make a way, says the Lord.
Isaiah 43:2-3 I will go before you and make the crooked places straight; I will break in pieces the gates of bronze and cut the bars of iron. I will give you the treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places, that you may know that I, the LORD, Who call you by your name, Am the God of Israel.
I think that we are close to the last days, but we are in the beginning of sorrows.
Your tag line is quite profound. The Scripture talks about an exodus that far surpasses that of the time of Moses. I believe we would be wise to study and understand the exodus from Egypt and the plagues of the LORD. History repeats itself and there is nothing new under the sun.
Shalom. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
Very well put!!
Thanks.
That was slightly more understandable.
In as much as I think I understand what you are saying, you are off the wall about me.
That’s OK. Lots of folks are.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
THX.
predestination?
Maybe invited guests at the wedding feast.
The Church fathers never had a problem with Acts. They did with Revelation. Check your early Church history.
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