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Always appreciate your thinking and pondering which is unfailingly Biblical. . . . though in this case . . . you seem to have . . . unless I missed it . . . handily slid by the GREAT SNATCH issue!

Hmmm... I thought I have made myself clear on the point for a long time now.

I am pre-wrath based on the following passages:

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. - Revelation 3:10

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, - I Ths 5:9

And this parable:

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.

They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 25:1-13

My discernment concerning the parable is tied to the candlesticks in Revelation 1-3 and the Sermon on the Mount reference to lamps - that by loving God surpassing above all else, yielding to the indwelling Spirit - a Christian will be ready to be raptured. The ones who were chosen for Him and knew better but were unprepared will have to endure at least some of the tribulation (Rev 7:14).

But I would not venture a guess as to when exactly the rapture will occur, pre or mid trib - just pre-wrath.

Maranatha, Jesus!!!