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The Good Friday-Easter Sunday Question
Good News Magazine ^ | March 2000 | Wilber Berg

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Good Friday—Easter Sunday Question

How do the biblical three days and three nights after Jesus Christ's crucifixion fit between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning? Or do they?

by Wilbur Berg

Consider these important facts. First, Easter Sunday is traditionally revered as the day of Jesus' resurrection—although the Bible clearly states that He had already risen before Sunday dawned in the city of Jerusalem.

Second, even though Good Friday is generally observed as the traditional day of His crucifixion, Christ Himself told the disciples that He would be in the grave for all of three days and three nights. How can three days and three nights possibly fit between a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection?

Third, the word Easter is not found in the Greek New Testament. Nor is there biblical mention of or instruction to observe Lent.

Finally, unlike the specific instruction to commemorate Christ's death, there is absolutely no commandment in the New Testament to observe the date of Jesus' resurrection. Yet today's religious customs are so ingrained in the church calendar that many would consider it heretical to question them.

Most of the world is scarcely aware that the original apostles did not institute or keep these customs, nor were they observed by the early Christian Church. Try as you might to find them, Lent, Good Friday and Easter are not so much as mentioned in the original Greek wording of the New Testament. (The word Easter appears only once in the King James Version of the Bible—in Acts 12:4—where it is flagrantly mistranslated from the Greek word pascha, which should be translated "Passover," as most versions render it.)

The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus' 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper's Bible Dictionary, "Lent"; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus' supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible.

Pagan practices adopted

Many people still follow such practices, assuming that such activities honor God and are approved by Him. But, we should ask, how does God regard such extrabiblical customs? Consider God's instructions to those who would worship Him:

"Take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.' You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it" (Deuteronomy 12:30-32, emphasis added throughout).

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia notes: "The term Easter was derived from the Anglo-Saxon 'Eostre,' the name of the goddess of spring. In her honor sacrifices were offered at the time of the vernal [spring] equinox" (1982, Vol. 2, "Easter").

Many battles were fought over its observance date, but the Council of Nicea finally fixed the date of Easter in A.D. 325 to fall on the first Sunday after the full moon on or after the vernal equinox (March 21).

Not generally known is that "the preparation for Easter season, beginning on Ash Wednesday and continuing for a week after Easter Day, was filled with pagan customs that had been revised in the light
of Christianity. Germanic nations, for example, set bonfires in spring. This custom was frowned on by the Church, which tried to suppress it . . . In the sixth and seventh centuries [monks] came to Germany, [bringing] their earlier pagan rites[,] and would bless bonfires outside the church building on Holy Saturday. The custom spread to France, and eventually it was incorporated into the Easter liturgy of Rome in the ninth century. Even today the blessing of the new fire is part of the Vigil of Easter.

"Medieval celebrations of Easter began at dawn. According to one old legend, the sun dances on Easter morning, or makes three jumps at the moment of its rising, in honor of Christ's resurrection. The rays of light penetrating the clouds were believed to be angels dancing for joy.

"Some Easter folk traditions that have survived today are the Easter egg, rabbit and lamb. During medieval times it was a tradition to give eggs at Easter to servants. King Edward I of England had 450 eggs boiled before Easter and dyed or covered with gold leaf. He then gave them to members of the royal household on Easter day. The egg was an earlier pagan symbol of rebirth and was presented at the spring equinox, the beginning of the pagan new year.

"The Easter rabbit is mentioned in a German book of 1572 and also was a pagan fertility symbol. The Easter lamb goes back to the Middle Ages; the lamb, holding a flag with a red cross on a white field, represented the resurrected Christ [rather than the sacrifice of His life, as a fulfillment of the Passover lamb, that paid for the sins of the world (John 1:29)]" (Anthony Mercatante, Facts on File Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, 1988, "Easter").

Passover out, Easter in

Easter traditions are embraced by many who profess Christianity. Yet none of these practices are found in the Bible or the customs of the early Church. Jesus and His apostles did not establish or perpetuate such practices, which obscure the true biblical meanings and observances of this time of year. In fact, a fourth-century church historian, Socrates Scholasticus, wrote in his Ecclesiastical History that neither the apostles nor the Gospels taught the observance of Easter, nor did they or Jesus give a law requiring the keeping of this feast. Instead, "the observance originated not by legislation, but as a custom" (chapter 22, emphasis added).

Even as early as the close of the second century, the theologian Irenaeus bore witness in his letter to Victor, bishop of Rome, that some early Roman bishops forbade the observance of Passover on the 14th of Nisan. This was the date of the biblical observance practiced each spring by Jesus and the apostles. At the time that the Nisan 14 Passover observance was banned, ecclesiastical authorities introduced Lent and Easter into Christian practice.

Distorting Jesus' words

A century later the Syriac Didascalia recorded the attempts of teachers in Rome to reconcile Jesus' words that He would be entombed "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40) with a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection. According to their reasoning, Jesus' sufferings were part of the three days and three nights of Scripture. Friday morning from 9 to noon was counted as the first day, and noon to 3 p.m. (which was darkened) was considered the first night. Three in the afternoon to sunset was reckoned as the second day, whereas Friday night to Saturday morning constituted the second night. The daylight part of Saturday was the third day, and the night portion to Sunday morning was the third night.

In other words, the three days and three nights in the grave that Jesus said would be the sign that He was indeed sent from God were transformed into a period of two days and two nights, or a total of no more than 48 hours. This has subsequently been reduced even further in modern times by figuring from late afternoon Friday to early Sunday morning, which takes away another 12 hours or more. Such reasoning has to discount or somehow explain away Jesus' clear promise that He would be entombed three days and three nights.

Easter and Lent are nonbiblical and were not observed by the apostles or the first-century Church. The biblical record shows, however, that the early Church diligently kept other observances, the New Testament Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, just as Jesus and the apostles had done (Matthew 26:17-19; Acts 20:6; 1 Corinthians 5:8; 11:23-26). These were supplanted in later years by the customs and practices of Easter and Lent.

Passover is an annual reminder of Jesus' sacrificial death to pay the penalty for our sins (Matthew 26:26-28). The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a celebration that focuses on a Christian's need to live in sincerity, truth and purity (1 Corinthians 5:8). The nonbiblical festivals of Lent and Easter, added decades after the time of Jesus Christ and the apostles, only cloud the true significance of Christ's life, death and resurrection and the purpose of His coming.

The Passover, instituted in Exodus 12, continues by Jesus Christ's example and command—but with a change of symbols. Jesus' death fulfilled the symbolism of the sacrificial Passover lamb (Matthew 26:17-28; John 1:29). However, the New Testament Passover has been improperly replaced as an annual memorial of the death of Christ by Easter. We are commanded to commemorate Christ's death, not His resurrection (1 Corinthians 11:23-28).

Facts about Jesus' last days

Jesus Christ's promise was fulfilled exactly as He said, a fact that is made clear when we study and compare the Gospel accounts. These records give a clear, logical explanation that is perfectly consistent with Christ's words. Let's focus on Jesus' last days on earth to gain the proper perspective and understanding of how and when these events occurred.

Jesus said that, like the prophet Jonah, He would be entombed three days and three nights and that He would be raised up the third day after His crucifixion and death (Matthew 12:39-40; 17:23; 20:19). Putting these scriptures together, we see that He was resurrected at the end of the third day after His death. Luke 23:44 shows that He died around the ninth hour (Jewish reckoning), or 3 p.m. He would have been buried within the next few hours so that His body could be entombed before the approaching Sabbath (John 19:31).

Jesus' resurrection could not have been
on a Sunday morning because John 20:1-2 shows that He had already risen before Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early in the morning, arriving "while it was still dark." Therefore, neither could His death have occurred Friday afternoon, since that would not allow for His body to be in the grave three days and three nights. Clearly, the Good Friday-Easter Sunday explanation and tradition is without scriptural foundation.

Notice also that John 19:31 mentions that the Sabbath immediately after Jesus' death was "a high day"—not the weekly seventh-day Sabbath (from Friday evening to Saturday evening), but one of the annual Sabbaths, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (see Leviticus 23:6-7), which can fall on any day of the week.

In fact, two Sabbaths—first an annual Holy Day and then the regular weekly Sabbath—are mentioned in the Gospel accounts, a detail overlooked by most people. This can be proven by comparing Mark 16:1 with Luke 23:56.

Mark's account tells us, "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him" (Mark 16:1). However, Luke's account describes how the women who followed Jesus saw how His body was laid in the tomb. "Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils" for the final preparation of the body. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment" (Luke 23:56).

Mark tells us that the women bought the spices after the Sabbath, "when the Sabbath was past." Luke, however, tells us that they prepared the spices and oils, "and they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment." How could the women have bought spices after the Sabbath, yet then prepared them and rested on the same Sabbath?

That is obviously impossible—unless two Sabbaths are involved, with a day between them. Once we realize this, the two accounts become clear (see "The Chronology of Christ's Crucifixion and Resurrection," p. 18). Christ died near 3 p.m. and was placed in the tomb near sunset that day—a Wednesday in the year 31. That evening began the "high day" Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which fell on Thursday that year. The women rested on that day, then on Friday purchased and prepared the spices and oils for Jesus' body, which could not be done on either the Holy Day or the weekly Sabbath. They then rested again on the weekly Sabbath before going to the tomb before daybreak on Sunday morning, at which time they discovered that Christ had already been resurrected.

Two Sabbaths confirmed in text

The fact that two Sabbaths are involved is confirmed by Matthew 28:1, where the women went to the tomb "after the Sabbath." The Sabbath mentioned here is actually plural in the original Greek and should be translated "Sabbaths." Some Bible versions, including Alfred Marshall's Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, Ferrar Fenton's translation, Green's Literal Translation and Young's Literal Translation, make this clear.

Once we realize that two Sabbaths were involved—first an annual Holy Day, which was observed from Wednesday evening until Thursday evening, and the normal weekly Sabbath from Friday evening to Saturday evening, the fulfillment of Christ's words becomes clear.

The Savior of all humanity died near 3 p.m. on Wednesday and was buried shortly before sunset that day. From Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunset is one day and one night; from then until Friday sunset is two days and two nights; and from then until Saturday sunset is three days and three nights. Jesus Christ was resurrected at the end of this three-day and three-night period, near sunset on Saturday. Thus He was already risen long before the women came to the tomb before daylight on Sunday morning.

Jesus Christ's words were thus perfectly fulfilled, as verified by the Gospel accounts. He was not crucified on Friday afternoon, nor was He resurrected on a Sunday morning. The biblical evidence shows the Good Friday-Easter Sunday tradition to be a fabrication.

A correct harmonization of all the facts demonstrates that Jesus died near 3 p.m. that Wednesday afternoon, was entombed near sunset and was resurrected near sunset on Saturday, exactly three days and three nights later—just as He had stated. These are the facts, the correct biblical chronology that verifies the identity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

The chart on page 18 gives a day-by-day chronology of these events as described in the Gospel accounts.

The biblical festivals

Actually, the principal festivals and holidays observed by mainstream Christendom are a poor and pale reflection of true biblical teachings. Easter and Lent are a poor substitute for the wondrous truths revealed by keeping God's feasts.

The New Testament Church continued to observe the annual Passover to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ, but used the new symbols of bread and wine that He instituted (1 Corinthians 11:23-28). Today the members of the United Church of God commemorate this eminently important event in the same manner, in accordance with Christ's instructions. Again, the Bible contains no record of the Church observing Easter or Lent during the time of the apostles, nor any biblical command to observe Good Friday or Easter Sunday, especially since Christ did not die on Good Friday and was not resurrected on Easter Sunday. Instead, the apostles faithfully followed Christ's instructions to observe the biblical Passover "in remembrance" of Him (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25). GN


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To: r9etb
The holy days are first mentioned and instructed before the Israelites struck this covenant. Well, no. The Jewish Holy days can be found here.

You're giving ownership of the Lord's holy days to the modern religion of Judaism. For example, the Lord's holy days are enumerated in Leviticus 23, but they're actually instituted before before Israel leaves Egypt, before they strike the old covenant. The weekly sabbath, Passover, and the days of unleavened bread are all commanded to be observed prior to and outside of the bounds of the old covenant.

121 posted on 04/10/2009 1:40:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: MHGinTN
At which books does inspired scripture end in your estimation? Which of the Bible books in the Christian Bible are not given by God for inspiration in your estimation?

Genesis through Revelation are all inspired. No books, (in their original language) are not included.
122 posted on 04/10/2009 1:44:20 PM PDT by safisoft
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To: JohnnyM
God clearly tells Peter to eat unclean meat in the vision, even after Peter's protest. God clearly tells Peter in the vision that what He has cleansed, do not consider Unholy.

Three points:

1. Peters vision occurred anywhere from 10 to 20 years AFTER the death of Christ. Peter was a direct disciple of Christ. He knew what Christ taught. Yet:

Act 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

So Christ didn't teach it.

2. In the vision, despite being told to, Peter NEVER ate. He didn't do it. He wouldn't do it. Did God chastise him for it? No. Did God judge him for it. No.

3. What did Peter think the vision meant?

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Nowhere in scripture does anyone EVER suggest another interpretation of Peter's vision. Even when he told other's of the vision nobody, NOBODY, understood it to mean that they could now eat foods like pork and shrimp.

Again, only revisionist interpretation done through the prism of tradition allows the view you have.

123 posted on 04/10/2009 1:48:40 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.... Nobody has seen the father except Christ.

Nope, sorry. It is clear from Exodus that Moses was not meeting with Jesus all the time. For example,

But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live." And the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen." (Ex. 33:20-23)

That's not a description of a "Jesus" sighting; nor is God's appearance to Moses in the desert a "Jesus" sighting. And after all, thousands of people saw Jesus's face and did not die as a result.

It seems that you're using a theology of convenience to make a case for your own peculiar mixture of grace and legalism.

124 posted on 04/10/2009 1:58:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: vladimir998
Deuteronomy 22:22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

So far verse 22 is talking about 2 people having consenting adultery.

When we get to 23, the verse begins with a man and married woman in town and him sleeping with her.

24 then mentions the punishment, and why.:

the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help

and the man because he violated another man's wife.

So it comes down to the woman does not scream for protection, and by her silence gives her consent. Meaning it IS NOT rape. If it were rape she would have screamed.

Now verse 25:

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

So verse 25 specifically calls it rape, and then absolves the girl because she WAS raped.

Now verse 27 ties verse 24 in to the 2 scenarios.

for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

Verse 24 convicts the woman because she did not scream, while 27 absolves her, because there was no one to hear here when/if she did scream.

Now as far as OT vs NT, one must take into entire context. The OT was/is the LAW it points to the Messiah and makes clear what right and wrong is. The NT brings the Messiah and GRACE which supercedes the LAW.

The Law was needed in the OT to let man know what sin was, and sin has to have a consequence. But with Christ and the NT, though the LAW still shows us what sin is, for Christians the consequences change, because the consequences fall on Christ, and we are no longer under condemnation.

The only change between the OT and NT is that sins consequences change, everything else is the same. Grace has always been Gods goal, but before Christ there was no removal of sin.

God hates sin the same OT and NT, how he views the sinner has changed, ONLY for the Christian. Until a person realizes he is a sinner, and that sin seperates him from God, and by faith, accepts Christs as Messiah, and the remover of all sin, past, present and future, he is still under the law. It is faith in Christ, and what he says and has done that changes a mans standing before God. But the Law still lets him know what wrong is.

Now as far as this overall discussion and Easter and Passover. The OT tells us to celebrate Passover, and HOW to celebrate Passover.

What is Passover?

It goes beyond the angel of death going through Egypt and killing the first born male of anyone not having the blood of a perfect lamb on their doorposts.

The secret of Passover wasn't Jew vs Egyptian(gentile). The secret was the blood of a perfect lamb. That lamb being sacrificed, and its blood being put on the door posts of the house. If a Jewish house was without the blood on the door post, they would have lost their first born male, the same as the Egyptian house. Also, if an Egyptian house would have sacrificed a perfect lamb to Jehovah God, and put the blood on their doorposts, the angel would have passed by.

So today, as Christians, Passover has special meaning to us. One, it reminds us of what God did for HIS PEOPLE thousands of years ago. Jews celebrated Passover because God wanted them to remember what he did for them, and to celebrate him. Second, Christ is our perfect lamb, sacrificed, whose blood, causes God's wrath to Passover us, who have accepted him as Messiah.

God gave us Passover as a celebration of what he has done, and a celebration of his promise to us.

Communion he also gave as a celebration for us. Celebrating his death and resurrection. Communion is to be a regular occurence. If we are regularly celebrating communion, what use is adding Easter? Accept to celebrate once again communion.

125 posted on 04/10/2009 2:11:32 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: DouglasKC
Jesus told us to remember his death on Passover.

Your misinterpretation of Scripture is of no use to me.

126 posted on 04/10/2009 2:21:23 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
...there is nothing but tradition to suggest that this organization is indeed the church that Christ founded.

Nothing but tradition and two thousand years of history and the Gospels. That's all.

127 posted on 04/10/2009 2:23:18 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
The Church that Christ founded is characterized not by which organization one belongs to, but it is a spiritual entity. It's members are those who have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us.

Yes!

The Catholic Church.

128 posted on 04/10/2009 2:23:49 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: r9etb
Nope, sorry. It is clear from Exodus that Moses was not meeting with Jesus all the time. For example,
But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live." And the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen." (Ex. 33:20-23)

That doesn't violate the words of Christ. This very well could be the preincarnate Christ.

But supposing for a moment that Moses did meet with the father and with Christ, do you believe that Christ and the Father would have different wills? Isn't the will of the father the will of the son?

129 posted on 04/10/2009 2:25:46 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Petronski
Jesus told us to remember his death on Passover.
Your misinterpretation of Scripture is of no use to me.

Did he or did he not?

130 posted on 04/10/2009 2:28:33 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

The relevant question is whether He said to remember His death on Passover, and on no other day.


131 posted on 04/10/2009 2:31:09 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
...there is nothing but tradition to suggest that this organization is indeed the church that Christ founded.
Nothing but tradition and two thousand years of history and the Gospels. That's all.

Sorry, but that's a conclusion that isn't supported by scripture and history.

132 posted on 04/10/2009 2:37:06 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Petronski
The Church that Christ founded is characterized not by which organization one belongs to, but it is a spiritual entity. It's members are those who have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us.
Yes!
The Catholic Church.

I would agree that it's a universal, catholic church.

133 posted on 04/10/2009 2:38:47 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
I would agree that it's a universal, Catholic Church.

Absolutely!

134 posted on 04/10/2009 2:43:54 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC
Sorry, but that's a conclusion that isn't supported by your own personal interpretation of scripture and history.

Not my fault.

135 posted on 04/10/2009 2:45:10 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
The relevant question is whether He said to remember His death on Passover, and on no other day.

That's certainly what he meant and what the early disciples thought he meant.

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

A couple of points here. This was written to a predominantly gentile church. The context is clearly during passover and the days of leavened bread. The instruction is to celebrate, observe, the feast of passover and unleavened bread.

Later in the same letter:

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

Passover, the day that Jesus died, is an annual observance. Passover, the day that Jesus instituted the Lord's supper of wine and bread, was the days that his followers partook of the Lord's supper.

To believe that the Lord's supper was not intimately linked with Passover is to deny scripture, history and the culture of the time. The Lord's supper as practiced today has deviated greatly from how the Lord and his original disciples practiced it.

136 posted on 04/10/2009 2:46:45 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Paul is exhorting his listeners to partake of Holy Eucharist. He is, after all, an early father of the Catholic Church.


137 posted on 04/10/2009 2:49:56 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC

“I don’t follow or adhere to Judaic law.”

and

“But generally if God says not to do it’s undoubtedly correct.”

are not consistent.

You should take your arrogance and modern-day Phariseeism elsewhere.

We are under grace, not law. I find your attitude disgusting.


138 posted on 04/10/2009 2:49:56 PM PDT by Rammer
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To: Petronski
I would agree that it's a universal, Catholic Church.
Absolutely!

Not fair altering my responses...

Our of curiosity would you say that everyone that is a member of the Roman Catholic Church (I'm assuming that's the Catholic church you're referring to) has God's spirit and is a member of the body of Christ?

139 posted on 04/10/2009 2:50:01 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Petronski
Paul is exhorting his listeners to partake of Holy Eucharist. He is, after all, an early father of the Catholic Church.

He is continuing what Christ taught. To take the Passover on Passover and to observe the festivals that Christ created.

140 posted on 04/10/2009 2:51:29 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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