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The Good Friday-Easter Sunday Question
Good News Magazine ^ | March 2000 | Wilber Berg

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Good Friday—Easter Sunday Question

How do the biblical three days and three nights after Jesus Christ's crucifixion fit between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning? Or do they?

by Wilbur Berg

Consider these important facts. First, Easter Sunday is traditionally revered as the day of Jesus' resurrection—although the Bible clearly states that He had already risen before Sunday dawned in the city of Jerusalem.

Second, even though Good Friday is generally observed as the traditional day of His crucifixion, Christ Himself told the disciples that He would be in the grave for all of three days and three nights. How can three days and three nights possibly fit between a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection?

Third, the word Easter is not found in the Greek New Testament. Nor is there biblical mention of or instruction to observe Lent.

Finally, unlike the specific instruction to commemorate Christ's death, there is absolutely no commandment in the New Testament to observe the date of Jesus' resurrection. Yet today's religious customs are so ingrained in the church calendar that many would consider it heretical to question them.

Most of the world is scarcely aware that the original apostles did not institute or keep these customs, nor were they observed by the early Christian Church. Try as you might to find them, Lent, Good Friday and Easter are not so much as mentioned in the original Greek wording of the New Testament. (The word Easter appears only once in the King James Version of the Bible—in Acts 12:4—where it is flagrantly mistranslated from the Greek word pascha, which should be translated "Passover," as most versions render it.)

The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus' 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper's Bible Dictionary, "Lent"; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus' supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible.

Pagan practices adopted

Many people still follow such practices, assuming that such activities honor God and are approved by Him. But, we should ask, how does God regard such extrabiblical customs? Consider God's instructions to those who would worship Him:

"Take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.' You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it" (Deuteronomy 12:30-32, emphasis added throughout).

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia notes: "The term Easter was derived from the Anglo-Saxon 'Eostre,' the name of the goddess of spring. In her honor sacrifices were offered at the time of the vernal [spring] equinox" (1982, Vol. 2, "Easter").

Many battles were fought over its observance date, but the Council of Nicea finally fixed the date of Easter in A.D. 325 to fall on the first Sunday after the full moon on or after the vernal equinox (March 21).

Not generally known is that "the preparation for Easter season, beginning on Ash Wednesday and continuing for a week after Easter Day, was filled with pagan customs that had been revised in the light
of Christianity. Germanic nations, for example, set bonfires in spring. This custom was frowned on by the Church, which tried to suppress it . . . In the sixth and seventh centuries [monks] came to Germany, [bringing] their earlier pagan rites[,] and would bless bonfires outside the church building on Holy Saturday. The custom spread to France, and eventually it was incorporated into the Easter liturgy of Rome in the ninth century. Even today the blessing of the new fire is part of the Vigil of Easter.

"Medieval celebrations of Easter began at dawn. According to one old legend, the sun dances on Easter morning, or makes three jumps at the moment of its rising, in honor of Christ's resurrection. The rays of light penetrating the clouds were believed to be angels dancing for joy.

"Some Easter folk traditions that have survived today are the Easter egg, rabbit and lamb. During medieval times it was a tradition to give eggs at Easter to servants. King Edward I of England had 450 eggs boiled before Easter and dyed or covered with gold leaf. He then gave them to members of the royal household on Easter day. The egg was an earlier pagan symbol of rebirth and was presented at the spring equinox, the beginning of the pagan new year.

"The Easter rabbit is mentioned in a German book of 1572 and also was a pagan fertility symbol. The Easter lamb goes back to the Middle Ages; the lamb, holding a flag with a red cross on a white field, represented the resurrected Christ [rather than the sacrifice of His life, as a fulfillment of the Passover lamb, that paid for the sins of the world (John 1:29)]" (Anthony Mercatante, Facts on File Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, 1988, "Easter").

Passover out, Easter in

Easter traditions are embraced by many who profess Christianity. Yet none of these practices are found in the Bible or the customs of the early Church. Jesus and His apostles did not establish or perpetuate such practices, which obscure the true biblical meanings and observances of this time of year. In fact, a fourth-century church historian, Socrates Scholasticus, wrote in his Ecclesiastical History that neither the apostles nor the Gospels taught the observance of Easter, nor did they or Jesus give a law requiring the keeping of this feast. Instead, "the observance originated not by legislation, but as a custom" (chapter 22, emphasis added).

Even as early as the close of the second century, the theologian Irenaeus bore witness in his letter to Victor, bishop of Rome, that some early Roman bishops forbade the observance of Passover on the 14th of Nisan. This was the date of the biblical observance practiced each spring by Jesus and the apostles. At the time that the Nisan 14 Passover observance was banned, ecclesiastical authorities introduced Lent and Easter into Christian practice.

Distorting Jesus' words

A century later the Syriac Didascalia recorded the attempts of teachers in Rome to reconcile Jesus' words that He would be entombed "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40) with a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection. According to their reasoning, Jesus' sufferings were part of the three days and three nights of Scripture. Friday morning from 9 to noon was counted as the first day, and noon to 3 p.m. (which was darkened) was considered the first night. Three in the afternoon to sunset was reckoned as the second day, whereas Friday night to Saturday morning constituted the second night. The daylight part of Saturday was the third day, and the night portion to Sunday morning was the third night.

In other words, the three days and three nights in the grave that Jesus said would be the sign that He was indeed sent from God were transformed into a period of two days and two nights, or a total of no more than 48 hours. This has subsequently been reduced even further in modern times by figuring from late afternoon Friday to early Sunday morning, which takes away another 12 hours or more. Such reasoning has to discount or somehow explain away Jesus' clear promise that He would be entombed three days and three nights.

Easter and Lent are nonbiblical and were not observed by the apostles or the first-century Church. The biblical record shows, however, that the early Church diligently kept other observances, the New Testament Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, just as Jesus and the apostles had done (Matthew 26:17-19; Acts 20:6; 1 Corinthians 5:8; 11:23-26). These were supplanted in later years by the customs and practices of Easter and Lent.

Passover is an annual reminder of Jesus' sacrificial death to pay the penalty for our sins (Matthew 26:26-28). The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a celebration that focuses on a Christian's need to live in sincerity, truth and purity (1 Corinthians 5:8). The nonbiblical festivals of Lent and Easter, added decades after the time of Jesus Christ and the apostles, only cloud the true significance of Christ's life, death and resurrection and the purpose of His coming.

The Passover, instituted in Exodus 12, continues by Jesus Christ's example and command—but with a change of symbols. Jesus' death fulfilled the symbolism of the sacrificial Passover lamb (Matthew 26:17-28; John 1:29). However, the New Testament Passover has been improperly replaced as an annual memorial of the death of Christ by Easter. We are commanded to commemorate Christ's death, not His resurrection (1 Corinthians 11:23-28).

Facts about Jesus' last days

Jesus Christ's promise was fulfilled exactly as He said, a fact that is made clear when we study and compare the Gospel accounts. These records give a clear, logical explanation that is perfectly consistent with Christ's words. Let's focus on Jesus' last days on earth to gain the proper perspective and understanding of how and when these events occurred.

Jesus said that, like the prophet Jonah, He would be entombed three days and three nights and that He would be raised up the third day after His crucifixion and death (Matthew 12:39-40; 17:23; 20:19). Putting these scriptures together, we see that He was resurrected at the end of the third day after His death. Luke 23:44 shows that He died around the ninth hour (Jewish reckoning), or 3 p.m. He would have been buried within the next few hours so that His body could be entombed before the approaching Sabbath (John 19:31).

Jesus' resurrection could not have been
on a Sunday morning because John 20:1-2 shows that He had already risen before Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early in the morning, arriving "while it was still dark." Therefore, neither could His death have occurred Friday afternoon, since that would not allow for His body to be in the grave three days and three nights. Clearly, the Good Friday-Easter Sunday explanation and tradition is without scriptural foundation.

Notice also that John 19:31 mentions that the Sabbath immediately after Jesus' death was "a high day"—not the weekly seventh-day Sabbath (from Friday evening to Saturday evening), but one of the annual Sabbaths, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (see Leviticus 23:6-7), which can fall on any day of the week.

In fact, two Sabbaths—first an annual Holy Day and then the regular weekly Sabbath—are mentioned in the Gospel accounts, a detail overlooked by most people. This can be proven by comparing Mark 16:1 with Luke 23:56.

Mark's account tells us, "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him" (Mark 16:1). However, Luke's account describes how the women who followed Jesus saw how His body was laid in the tomb. "Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils" for the final preparation of the body. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment" (Luke 23:56).

Mark tells us that the women bought the spices after the Sabbath, "when the Sabbath was past." Luke, however, tells us that they prepared the spices and oils, "and they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment." How could the women have bought spices after the Sabbath, yet then prepared them and rested on the same Sabbath?

That is obviously impossible—unless two Sabbaths are involved, with a day between them. Once we realize this, the two accounts become clear (see "The Chronology of Christ's Crucifixion and Resurrection," p. 18). Christ died near 3 p.m. and was placed in the tomb near sunset that day—a Wednesday in the year 31. That evening began the "high day" Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which fell on Thursday that year. The women rested on that day, then on Friday purchased and prepared the spices and oils for Jesus' body, which could not be done on either the Holy Day or the weekly Sabbath. They then rested again on the weekly Sabbath before going to the tomb before daybreak on Sunday morning, at which time they discovered that Christ had already been resurrected.

Two Sabbaths confirmed in text

The fact that two Sabbaths are involved is confirmed by Matthew 28:1, where the women went to the tomb "after the Sabbath." The Sabbath mentioned here is actually plural in the original Greek and should be translated "Sabbaths." Some Bible versions, including Alfred Marshall's Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, Ferrar Fenton's translation, Green's Literal Translation and Young's Literal Translation, make this clear.

Once we realize that two Sabbaths were involved—first an annual Holy Day, which was observed from Wednesday evening until Thursday evening, and the normal weekly Sabbath from Friday evening to Saturday evening, the fulfillment of Christ's words becomes clear.

The Savior of all humanity died near 3 p.m. on Wednesday and was buried shortly before sunset that day. From Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunset is one day and one night; from then until Friday sunset is two days and two nights; and from then until Saturday sunset is three days and three nights. Jesus Christ was resurrected at the end of this three-day and three-night period, near sunset on Saturday. Thus He was already risen long before the women came to the tomb before daylight on Sunday morning.

Jesus Christ's words were thus perfectly fulfilled, as verified by the Gospel accounts. He was not crucified on Friday afternoon, nor was He resurrected on a Sunday morning. The biblical evidence shows the Good Friday-Easter Sunday tradition to be a fabrication.

A correct harmonization of all the facts demonstrates that Jesus died near 3 p.m. that Wednesday afternoon, was entombed near sunset and was resurrected near sunset on Saturday, exactly three days and three nights later—just as He had stated. These are the facts, the correct biblical chronology that verifies the identity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

The chart on page 18 gives a day-by-day chronology of these events as described in the Gospel accounts.

The biblical festivals

Actually, the principal festivals and holidays observed by mainstream Christendom are a poor and pale reflection of true biblical teachings. Easter and Lent are a poor substitute for the wondrous truths revealed by keeping God's feasts.

The New Testament Church continued to observe the annual Passover to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ, but used the new symbols of bread and wine that He instituted (1 Corinthians 11:23-28). Today the members of the United Church of God commemorate this eminently important event in the same manner, in accordance with Christ's instructions. Again, the Bible contains no record of the Church observing Easter or Lent during the time of the apostles, nor any biblical command to observe Good Friday or Easter Sunday, especially since Christ did not die on Good Friday and was not resurrected on Easter Sunday. Instead, the apostles faithfully followed Christ's instructions to observe the biblical Passover "in remembrance" of Him (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25). GN


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1 posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

The secular components of Easter (clearly a result of conflation with celebrations of Spring) are no worse than the secular aspects of Christmas.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 10:34:32 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003
The secular components of Easter (clearly a result of conflation with celebrations of Spring) are no worse than the secular aspects of Christmas.

Absolutely. Or no better.

3 posted on 04/10/2009 10:36:17 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Absolutely. Or no better.

Agreed. They both honor Christ splendidly.

4 posted on 04/10/2009 10:37:57 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: MarkBsnr; ArrogantBustard; netmilsmom; AnAmericanMother; Coleus; Campion

Ishtar alert!


5 posted on 04/10/2009 10:42:20 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
Absolutely. Or no better.
Agreed. They both honor Christ splendidly.

While many certainly believe this, Christ himself told us which holy days were his and how to honor him:

Lev 23:2 "Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: 'The feasts of the LORD, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.

Lev 23:4 'These are the feasts of the LORD, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.

Jesus Christ, our Lord, tells us in his holy scriptures which holy days are his. He does not count Christmas, Easter or Good Friday among these.

6 posted on 04/10/2009 10:44:08 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

You’re quoting Christ from Leviticus?


7 posted on 04/10/2009 10:46:30 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC

My Bible has a New Testament.

Apparently that’s unusual.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 10:47:46 AM PDT by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: Petronski
You’re quoting Christ from Leviticus?

Certainly. He is the eternal, the Lord, the one who uttered these words and caused them to be written down and preserved.

9 posted on 04/10/2009 10:48:42 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Petronski

That’s exactly what I was wondering about!


10 posted on 04/10/2009 10:49:19 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: agere_contra
My Bible has a New Testament. Apparently that’s unusual.

Not really. The Lord while incarnate as Jesus never failed to observe the holy days he proclaimed.

11 posted on 04/10/2009 10:50:28 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
And you take these words from Leviticus and interpret them to mean we are not to celebrate the birth and the resurrection of Christ, or to commemorate His Crucifixion for the sake of our sins?

How deliciously fanciful...

12 posted on 04/10/2009 10:51:10 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski; DouglasKC
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.

The Old Testament has the absolute same authority as the New Testament. It has the same authority as Christ own quoted words, because in essence they are Christs words.

13 posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:30 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Petronski
And you take these words from Leviticus and interpret them to mean we are not to celebrate the birth and the resurrection of Christ, or to commemorate His Crucifixion for the sake of our sins?
How deliciously fanciful...

I take the commands of the Lord and believe them when he specifies HIS holy days. He does not mention Easter or Christmas.

I also try to follow (albeit imperfectly) the examples he set while incarnate. These include observing the holy days he himself observed while incarnate. Our duty as Christians is to walk as he walked:

1Jn 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

14 posted on 04/10/2009 10:57:47 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: mountn man

You wrote:

“The Old Testament has the absolute same authority as the New Testament. It has the same authority as Christ own quoted words, because in essence they are Christs words.”

Uh, are you sure that they both have the ABSOLUTE SAME authority NOW?

In other words, would you support the execution of adulterers? (Lev. 20:10)

How about stoning rape victims - if the rape happens inside the city limits? Deuteronomy 22:23-24


15 posted on 04/10/2009 11:00:06 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: DouglasKC

You posted:

“1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.”

So you believe in animal sacrifices? Jesus did in His days on this earth before His own sacrifice.


16 posted on 04/10/2009 11:02:18 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: DouglasKC
He does not mention Easter or Christmas.

But the Church which He founded for us DOES. The Catholic Church is His provision for our care, and His Church, in Her wisdom and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, sees it entirely fit and proper to celebrate the birth of God as Man, to soberly and coldly reflect on His Crucifixion for the remission of our sins, and to celebrate in His Resurrection His triumph over death.

17 posted on 04/10/2009 11:03:57 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC

>> The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus’ 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper’s Bible Dictionary, “Lent”; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus’ supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible. <<

Absolutely true, and absolutely meaningless.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 11:04:39 AM PDT by dangus
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To: DouglasKC

I don’t think the time or the actual place effects mankind. Our Lord could have died and risen from the dead anywhere. To raise any questions now would be like the Pharisees of His time. All technical!

And the Pharisees of His time as well as today were/are oblivious to the most important event in history.

The death and Resurrection of our Lord to save our souls.


19 posted on 04/10/2009 11:05:09 AM PDT by francky (Pro Life!)
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To: vladimir998

It amazes me to imagine what Christ did for the forgiveness of my sins on this day and then to try to wrap my mind around a vision of Christ who would condemn the celebration of His Resurrection.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 11:05:43 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: DouglasKC

I eat Christ’s Body and drink His blood, as he commanded us to do.

But I don’t - for instance - celebrate Passover. That was a commandment from God to the Jews. It is not a commandment from God to the gentiles. That’s because we were never slaves in Egypt.

I also don’t observe the dietary restrictions of the Old Testament. They were commandments from God to the Jews: but we can eat what we want - as revealed by Christ.

And I can walk across unmarked graves without contracting ritual impurity. And I don’t have to bring doves to the temple as an offering for sin. Why? Because God became Man and has become our Sacrifice for Sin.

We imitate Christ by being Christ-like, not by being Jewish.


22 posted on 04/10/2009 11:07:32 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dangus
Jesus’ supposed observance of Easter

Where or when did Jesus ever supposedly "observe" Easter?

23 posted on 04/10/2009 11:07:32 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

Avoid personal attacks and mind-reading on Religion Forum threads. Thank you.


24 posted on 04/10/2009 11:08:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: dangus
I missed this part:

>>The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible.<<

I would have thought--hoped--it unnecessary to have to point out again that heretical tradition of men known as sola scriptura did not originate in the Bible either.

25 posted on 04/10/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: vladimir998
You posted: “1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.” So you believe in animal sacrifices? Jesus did in His days on this earth before His own sacrifice.

I believe scripture. The book of Hebrews plainly tells us that for those under the new covenant Christ's sacrifice is sufficient. Reference Hebrews, especially chapters 8, 9 and 10.

26 posted on 04/10/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
...Christ's sacrifice is sufficient...

But under no circumstances are we to commemorate or celebrate it!

27 posted on 04/10/2009 11:10:28 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

lol!


28 posted on 04/10/2009 11:13:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Petronski
But the Church which He founded for us DOES. The Catholic Church is His provision for our care, and His Church, in Her wisdom and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, sees it entirely fit and proper to celebrate the birth of God as Man, to soberly and coldly reflect on His Crucifixion for the remission of our sins, and to celebrate in His Resurrection His triumph over death.

While there are undoubtedly Christians, or at least potential Christians, within the Catholic church, there is nothing but tradition to suggest that this organization is indeed the church that Christ founded.

The Church that Christ founded is characterized not by which organization one belongs to, but it is a spiritual entity. It's members are those who have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us.

29 posted on 04/10/2009 11:14:54 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: dangus
>> The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus’ 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper’s Bible Dictionary, “Lent”; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus’ supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible. <<
Absolutely true, and absolutely meaningless.

Not according to the writers of scripture.

30 posted on 04/10/2009 11:16:42 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
The book of Hebrews plainly tells us that for those under the new covenant Christ's sacrifice is sufficient.

But the Old Testament says you have to sacrifice goats and stuff. Back up the thread you were saying that the Old Testament was as binding as the New?

Well God bless you: I'm not picking a fight on Good Friday. Anymore than I have done already :0)

31 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:35 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: francky
I don’t think the time or the actual place effects mankind. Our Lord could have died and risen from the dead anywhere. To raise any questions now would be like the Pharisees of His time. All technical!

There's an important point raised in the article concerning timing.

Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
Mat 12:39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This is a reference to the timing of the resurrection of Christ. It is the only SIGN that Jesus said he would give. It's significant and it's a technical detail that proves who is the messiah and who is not.

32 posted on 04/10/2009 11:22:48 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: agere_contra
I eat Christ’s Body and drink His blood, as he commanded us to do. But I don’t - for instance - celebrate Passover. That was a commandment from God to the Jews. It is not a commandment from God to the gentiles. That’s because we were never slaves in Egypt.

Passover, the day that Christ himself spared the Israelites first born, was also the that the Christ himself gave the command to partake of the bread and wine in memory of him:

1Co 11:23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread;
1Co 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me."
1Co 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

Christ established the bread and wine, on his Passover, as a memorial service to him. Passover is a yearly observance.

I also don’t observe the dietary restrictions of the Old Testament. They were commandments from God to the Jews: but we can eat what we want - as revealed by Christ.

Where?

And I can walk across unmarked graves without contracting ritual impurity. And I don’t have to bring doves to the temple as an offering for sin. Why? Because God became Man and has become our Sacrifice for Sin.

Absolutely. This is made clear in Hebrews.

We imitate Christ by being Christ-like, not by being Jewish.

Absolutely.

33 posted on 04/10/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Just out of curiosity, do you eat shrimp?


34 posted on 04/10/2009 11:28:20 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: Petronski
...Christ's sacrifice is sufficient... But under no circumstances are we to commemorate or celebrate it!

Incorrect. Jesus told us to remember his death on Passover.

35 posted on 04/10/2009 11:29:33 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: agere_contra
But the Old Testament says you have to sacrifice goats and stuff. Back up the thread you were saying that the Old Testament was as binding as the New?

I think that one of the main points Jesus tried to make is that the spirit of the Old Testament is just as binding as it ever was -- but that people can use the letter of it the wrong way.

The problem with the Pharisees was that they substituted the letter of the Old Testament for the spirit of it. Lots of folks still do that -- all too often I do it myself. As Jesus put it, You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. (John 5:39-40)

Scripture does not confer eternal life; it "only" points to Him who can confer it.

St. Paul made that distinction, too, when he talked about those who were subject to the Law, and those who are justified by faith.

36 posted on 04/10/2009 11:29:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: agere_contra
But the Old Testament says you have to sacrifice goats and stuff. Back up the thread you were saying that the Old Testament was as binding as the New?

I didn't make that statement. Scripture makes clear that under the new covenant there have been changes in the administration and application of the law. Chiefly among these is the fact that the Levitical priesthood and animal sacrifices are not needed under the new covenant.

Well God bless you: I'm not picking a fight on Good Friday. Anymore than I have done already :0)

I don't consider it fighting to discuss the Lord and I don't think you've done so. :-)

37 posted on 04/10/2009 11:32:50 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Rammer
Just out of curiosity, do you eat shrimp?

No.

38 posted on 04/10/2009 11:33:27 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Do you wear clothes made from more than one type of fabric?


39 posted on 04/10/2009 11:36:14 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: agere_contra
I eat Christ’s Body and drink His blood, as he commanded us to do.

But I don’t - for instance - celebrate Passover. That was a commandment from God to the Jews. It is not a commandment from God to the gentiles. That’s because we were never slaves in Egypt.

I also don’t observe the dietary restrictions of the Old Testament. They were commandments from God to the Jews: but we can eat what we want - as revealed by Christ.

And I can walk across unmarked graves without contracting ritual impurity. And I don’t have to bring doves to the temple as an offering for sin. Why? Because God became Man and has become our Sacrifice for Sin.

We imitate Christ by being Christ-like, not by being Jewish.

You completely miss the importance of Passover and Jewishness.

First Christ himself celebrated Passover and never commanded a ceasation of it. The Apostles continued Passover, even though they were "Christians". As Christians they were no longer under the law but under grace, which would trump their being Jews and "having" to observe the law of obseving Passover.

Christ didn't come to START a NEW religion, it is a continuation, a fulfilment of the one true one.

Today there are 2 different religions by different names. We call the Judaism and Christianty. When in reality there is only one true "religion" and instead of having a name or title we should be called followers of the one true God, and that God is Jehovah, Yahweh.

True "Judaism" never ended. And "Christianity" never started at the end of Judaism. True Judaism started with Abraham, who looked for a coming Messiah, and continues with embracing Jesus as that Messiah.

What makes todays followers of Christ special, is that Christ has opened the doors to Gentiles also.

The shame for todays "Christians" is our arrogance in thinking we are better than our Jewish brethren, and that we don't need or shouldn't celebrate Jewish Holydays.

The exact opposite is true. God himself instituted these feasts and celebrations. God instituted these feasts because HE wanted HIS PEOPLE to CELEBRATE HIM and what HE had done for THEM.

We, todays "Christians", are like the ancient Jews, in that we are HIS people. But God has grafted in, included Gentiles. We, as Gods People, should be celebrating the things God has done for HIS People, whether Jew or Gentile. Or whether before Christ or After.

The importance is remembering and CELEBRATING God, and ALL HE has done. Past, present and future.

The God who protected HIS People, and Passedover Israel, and judged Egypt, is the same God protects HIS People today.

Gods people today NEED to remember Gods faithfulness and his provision in the past, so we can have hope and expectation in the future.

40 posted on 04/10/2009 11:37:49 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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I also don’t observe the dietary restrictions of the Old Testament. They were commandments from God to the Jews: but we can eat what we want - as revealed by Christ.

Where?

How about here: Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person. (Matt. 15:10-11)

41 posted on 04/10/2009 11:39:28 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Rammer
Do you wear clothes made from more than one type of fabric?

Of course.

42 posted on 04/10/2009 11:41:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Rammer

The dietary laws were overturned in Acts. Jesus broke the Sabbath Laws by healing on the Sabbath and allowing his followers to pick grain on the Sabbath.


43 posted on 04/10/2009 11:43:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: DouglasKC

That is forbidden by the Law


44 posted on 04/10/2009 11:44:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: r9etb
Where? How about here: Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person. (Matt. 15:10-11)

Do you believe that Jesus was teaching about clean and unclean meats or about ceremonial washing?

45 posted on 04/10/2009 11:44:48 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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In regards to your timing of the events, I generally agree. My only disagreement is with the day of his Resurrection. It happened on Sunday, not Saturday. This is confirmed by both the Old and New Testaments.

JM
46 posted on 04/10/2009 11:44:48 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: AppyPappy
That is forbidden by the Law

Where?

47 posted on 04/10/2009 11:45:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; francky
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Wouldn't this be the case if Jesus was crucified on Fri and died at 3PM.

Fri day 3PM (day), Fri 6pm-12AM (Night)

Sat 12AM-6AM (night), Sat 6AM-6pm (day), Sat 6PM-12AM (night)

Sun 12AM-6PM (night), Sun 6AM-day RESURRECTION.

I know there is an overlap on Sat, but I do see the 3 days and 3 nights.

48 posted on 04/10/2009 11:46:30 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: DouglasKC

Did you check to make sure that the two types of fabric were not wool and linen?


49 posted on 04/10/2009 11:47:43 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: AppyPappy

I know this. But I’m curious as to why DouglasKC feels it necessary to beat people over the head with one part of Judaic law when I’m guessing he doesn’t follow all of it.


50 posted on 04/10/2009 11:48:54 AM PDT by Rammer
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