Posted on 04/18/2009 5:48:29 AM PDT by truthandlife
James Dobson claims the culture war has been lost! In a message to his staff at Focus on the Family that was never meant to be heard by the outside world, Dr. James Dobson, in his own words, stated that the culture war had been lost. After the tape of his talk was leaked to the public, he began damage control, going on Sean Hannity's program (he went on no other programs despite numerous offers by other programs to have him on) since Hannity would never challenge him, claiming the "media took him out of context." The fact is, the media is not to blame for his words, he is. While I totally disagree that the culture war has been lost, I do agree with Dr. Dobson that we are losing...primarily because of poor leadership from men like him!!!
I remember doing a Devotional back in 2004 on Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the 90-year-old founder of the Unification Cult. In the research for that Devotional, I found out that in the 80s a host of major Christian leaders including Dobson took hundreds of thousands of dollars, in some cases, millions, from Moon disguised as donations from his various pro-family and conservative groups he founded to gain mainstream credibility. All respect I had for Dr. Dobson was immediately lost as it became apparent that the "business" of Focus on the Family took precedence over the ministry of Focus on the Family.
The next evidence of this came when I was standing alone in the secular media 2 years ago, trying to expose the FACT that Mitt Romney was not a Christian as he claimed, but the member of a satanic cult. I was mystified why supposed Christian leaders like Dobson never came to my rescue. How naive. Why would he when he was in bed with the Mormons? Dobson should have dealt with Romney's candidacy in the only way a true leader could, and that was to clearly state he would never vote for or have anything to do with someone who is the member of a satanic cult but would pray for him to turn from the lies of Mormonism and to faith in the Jesus of the Bible!
However, that is not what Dr. Dobson did. He danced around the Romney question, refusing to take a stand against his candidacy. He even kept the door open to support Romney should he have won the Republican nomination. Recently he interviewed Mormon Glenn Beck and promoted Beck's book to his audience, WHILE NEVER ONCE TELLING PEOPLE BECK WAS PART OF THE SATANIC MORMON CULT!!! What would make a man of God do this? MONEY! One of the things that makes the Mormon cult so attractive is their dedication to family. They are no doubt big consumers of the family-friendly resources Focus on the Family sells.
Did you know that Focus on the Family has formed a political alliance with the Mormon cult? The alliance is called the World Congress of Families (WCOF). It is a United Nations lobbying group STARTED AND FUNDED by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), better known as the Mormon CULT!!! FOF has actually been holding planning committee meetings on their Colorado Springs campus with officials from the WCOF, BYU and other Mormon organizations! This alliance flies in the face of clear Scriptural mandates to not form alliances with the enemies of God. Dobson refused to speak out on Romney being part of a satanic cult because his ministry is in bed with and makes money off of that satanic cult!!!
Recently, my good friend and a true warrior for Christ Steve Deace who hosts a radio program on the secular Newstalk WHO in Des Moines, Iowa, interviewed Dr. Dobson's right hand man Tom Minnery. It was a powerful interview as Deace got Minnery to share that Dobson admitted the culture war was lost and exposed the hypocrisy of Dobson and Focus on numerous other topics, revealing that Dobson is about money and power first, and the cause of Christ second. You can listen to that interview at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkYk24ofYJM
*For the record, I reached out to Dr. Dobson over 30 times in the past week to give him the opportunity to respond to all of these issues, but he did not even have the decency to respond to any of my calls.
For those who want to rip into me for simply stating the truth about Dobson, I would refer you to Matthew 23 and the words of Jesus who took to task the religious leaders of His day in a very hardcore fashion. What invoked such anger and vitriol from our Lord towards those religious leaders?
COMPROMISE! When I rip into Osteen, Warren, Jakes, Dobson, and others who have exalted themselves to positions of leadership simply by virtue they built large organizations, it is because of the COMPROMISE they have persisted in to build and perpetuate these organizations that take in tens of millions of dollars each year.
They have placed dollars ahead of the Gospel, political correctness ahead of the Truth, and their agenda ahead of God's agenda. THIS is why we have been losing the culture war. Leaders like Dobson have compromised for their own interests, creating hundreds of little fiefdoms so we have never spoken with one unified voice. Each voice had their own interests at heart over God's, and thus we remain divided, never being taken seriously, and without the strength to do much except raise tens of millions of dollars on issues we never had a plan to see victory.
Think I am wrong? Why have men like Dobson who take in $80 to $100 million annually, never go on SECULAR TV, SECULAR RADIO, to take their case to the masses in the marketplace? Simple. It was not a good business model. The lost masses don't send you donations, don't buy your books and resources, don't come to your events. They certainly don't help you build glass buildings and have staffs of 200-300 people. No, to do that you have to simply preach to the choir in the Christian trough, insuring your message never gets to the people who need it the most.
THIS IS WHY DR. DOBSON IS CORRECT, AND THE CULTURE WAR HAS NOT BEEN WON. CHRISTIAN LEADERS LIKE HIMSELF NEVER HAD VICTORY AS THEIR GOAL, ONLY BUILDING THEIR OWN KINGDOM INSTEAD OF GOD'S KINGDOM!!!
I love you and care about you so much. People can rip me for telling the truth, that is fine, I am used to taking the heat. I know those who have been seduced by Dobson and Focus for years will unsubscribe and stop donating to Liveprayer. That is OK. I am not here to please man but God. Men don't supply the needs of this ministry, God does. They literally killed Jesus for telling the Truth. I will state without hesitation that men like Dobson have squandered the supports of millions of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to build their legacy, and not God's. You don't need hundreds of millions to turn this nation back to God. Ten to twelve million a year would do the job very effectively if you are not building buildings, but truly trying to lead this nation back to God and to His Truth.
LET ME SAY THIS AS CLEAR AS I CAN. THE CULTURE WAR IS NOT LOST AND IT CAN BE WON!! I can only encourage you today. God has raised up Liveprayer for this moment in human history. God gave me the vision for the Jonah Project last July. It is in place, we are adding people daily, and now is your opportunity to take a real stand for Christ. God is calling you today, wants to use you today to help bring revival to this nation. yes, eventfully we will be judged for our sins and wickedness, but I believe we can stay God's hand of judgment just like Nineveh did.
Over 120,000 souls were saved in Nineveh because they turned to God! I believe that we can see millions repent and turn to God in the wake of this revival. You can keep living your life, taking care of yourself, or you can sacrifice your life and allow God to use you for His glory. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God. Read that again. When you come to the end of your life, it is not what you did for yourself that will matter, but what you did for God.
Please pray today about signing up and being part of the Jonah Project, God's vehicle to lead this nation back to Himself, to His Truth, and millions to faith in Christ. Go to: www.liveprayer.com/jonah and what the 7 min. vision video, get sign up. Also, get this Devotional to everyone that you know and share the link to the Jonah Project with every person you can communicate with. This is the answer for this nation and for millions of people who are looking for answers and hope in their life. This culture war is not lost and by turning back to God and His Truth it can be won!!!
A war is lost only when one side GIVES UP!
Who tf cares what Dobson says, I certainly don’t.
I think he’s right. And it looks like the right gave up a few years back.
“WHILE NEVER ONCE TELLING PEOPLE BECK WAS PART OF THE SATANIC MORMON CULT!!! “
GROW UP!!!
The war is lost when whackos like this split our ranks by calling Mormons a satanic cult.
This man should be a pariah.
I agree with this analysis to this degree: When believers lose sight of principle and become pragmatic, they invariably fail. We all are guilty of this and it eventually brings down highly visible leaders. However, Dobson is hardly different from you or me. We’re both on FR because we’re concerned about America - this is, in fact, a secular approach to what is ultimately a spiritual problem. To the degree that we are active and pursuing a secular solution, we will be drawing finite resources from the spiritual. At times, they overlap. Knowing the difference is the difficulty . . .
It is called damage control. Please read the whole article. Listen to this interview also if you don’t believe what Dobson said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkYk24ofYJM
“Mitt Romney was not a Christian as he claimed, but the member of a satanic cult.”
Indeed, no need to read any further than this.
What is Truthandlife?
Who is this paranoid person writing this mess?
“trying to expose the FACT that Mitt Romney was not a Christian as he claimed, but the member of a satanic cult”
What satanic cult is he talking about? Mormons? You might not agree with them, but saying they are a satanic cult is like those wackos in a church I went to in my teen years who tried to tell me some brands were satanic. Like Ram truck, because it had a goat on it and the Devil looked a goat. WTF?
To me, the writer loses a lot of credibility by calling Dobson a poor leader. In social/political activism leaders are not appointed or voted upon. They **emerge** by sticking their necks out to make a difference, and those who manage to go far are called “leaders” as a verbal shorthand. I would say Dobson has done well, as the size and reputation of FOTF demonstrates. That is to say, Dobson has been a strong leader. OTOH I have never heard of Bill Keller, who goes on to suggest that every successful evangelical leader is all about money. I guess you have to fail financially to prove you are sincere. Bill Keller should start his own movement where he can call the shots as he sees fit to call them. Then as a result of his capable leadership his organization will grow tremendously, to the point where we can dismiss him as being all about money. It’s a vicious circle.
This jerk, Keller, is arrogant and is doing nothing more than trying to place himself over others on a moral platform.
The political and spiritual problems we face have solutions that sometimes coincide and sometimes do not. That does not mean we abandon one for the exlusive pursuit of the other.
He said some of the battles were lost ...
Keller calls it how he sees it and his guide is the Bible (the Word of God). If you didn’t like that one then this one will really challenge you.
http://www.liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=3635
Exposing Glenn Beck’s Deception
(Galatians 1:6-12)
Exposing Glenn Beck’s deception. For years on his syndicated radio program, on his TV program that aired on CNN Headline News that is now seen on FOX News, Glenn Beck asks people to be honest and has positioned himself as the one to hold the powerful accountable and expose their lies and deception. Perhaps there is no more deceptive person in the media today other than Oprah, than Glenn Beck. He has a large following due to his radio and TV programs that espouse his conservative political ideology. It is time to expose Glenn Beck and hold him accountable for his lies and deception.
You see, Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Now, I could care less if Beck wants to believes the fairy tales and false theology of that satanic cults murdering, pedophile, and racist found Joey Smith. Beck can believe in the tooth fairy if he wants. The problem lies in the fact that like all members of his satanic cult, Beck promotes himself as and calls himself a Christian. The fact is Mormon doctrine is totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is! The Mormon cult spends tens of millions each year in public relations to deceive people and portray themselves as “just another Christian church,” when they are no more a Christian church than your local mosque is!
Without getting too deep into Smith’s warped and fantastic theology that has ZERO BASIS in fact, the problem lies with the Mormon cult’s deception in using the words God, Jesus, and the Bible. The bottom line to Mormonism and why it is a cult can be boiled down to one core issue, the jesus of the Mormons is NOT a deity! When a Mormon speaks of Jesus, they are NOT speaking about the Jesus in the Bible, the Savior of the world! The jesus of Mormon theology is NOT God incarnate as the Bible teaches!
The Mormon jesus was not supernaturally conceived by the Holy Ghost, but the natural offspring of their “god” Elohim who had sex with Mary, meaning he is a created being no different than you and I. Mormons also teach that their jesus had several wives and children, in compete contradiction to what the Bible teaches. The jesus of Beck and the Mormon cult is also the brother of Lucifer and will return not to the Mt. Of Olives as the Bible teaches, but to Independence, Missouri to set up his earthly Kingdom.
Likewise, when a Mormon speaks of God, they are NOT speaking about the God of the Bible!!! Their “god” is named Elohim and was once a man like you and I who came from another planet. Mormon Doctrine states that their god was once a human man, and “He is now a glorified, resurrected personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones.” As a matter of fact, “all gods first existed as spirits, came to an earth to receive bodies, and then, after having passed through a period of probation on the aforesaid earth, were advanced to the exalted position they now enjoy.” Mormon theology teaches that men can eventually become a god and have their own planet.
What about the Bible and true Christian churches? Mormons love to use the Bible and quote from the Bible to support their deception that they are Christians. The trademark of all cults and false religions, even those who use the Bible, is that it is NOT their final authority. In the Mormon cult, their authority does not come from the Bible which they view as incomplete and not reliable, but the writings of Smith, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants. These are the writings that form the false theology of this cult.
Beck and all Mormons believe that non-Mormons are “abominations.” While they don’t have the guts the Muslims do to publicly call a non-Muslim an infidel who should be put to death, a Mormon views a Biblical Christian as part of a “false religion” and void of all authority. Glenn Beck believes a Bible-believing Christian, the very people he is courting so hard through his conservative political ideology, are an abomination!
Why is this important??? BECAUSE THE ETERNAL SOULS OF MEN ARE AT STAKE!!! Paul had to deal with the issue of “cults,” those who perverted the Gospel, almost from the very beginning of the church. He spoke of it often in his writings, as in today’s anchor verses in his letter to the church at Galatia. What Jesus you put your faith in is so critical, since anyone who puts their faith in the imaginary faux jesus of Joseph Smith and the satanic Mormon cult instead of the Jesus of the Bible, will die in their sins and their souls burn forever in the flames of hell.
That is why it is appalling that those on the FOX News channel who love to tout their Christianity, people like Fox and Friends host Gretchen Carlson who often talks about her grandfather being a pastor, and many others who make sure people know they are a Christian, let Beck sit there and talk about “his faith,” “God,” Jesus,” and claim that “he is a Christian,” in complete silence. Bill O’Reilly loves to brag about “looking out for the folks,” yet he allows Beck to spew his deception without ever once challenging him on the FACT that he is part of a cult that has nothing to do with Christianity!
Former pastor and Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is sadly more concerned with his TV show on FOX News and running for President in 2012 than the eternal souls of those Beck deceives with his lies about being a Christian. However, it is difficult to be too hard on the people at FOX News when you have so-called Christian leaders like Dobson and Robertson who interview Beck, help him sell his book promoting his “faith,” and allow him to pass himself off as a Christian without saying one word!!! These men understand it is “good for their business” to ally themselves with the Mormon cult because of their money!!! Money to them is more important than souls!!!
It is no wonder why most Christians are deceived into believing that Mormons are Christians when their “leaders” give a deceiver like Beck credibility since it is in their business interest to do so. After all, the Mormon cult is masterful at using their vast wealth to buy off high profile Christians for credibility. In Romney’s bid for the Presidency, he bought and paid for many well known Christians like Jay Sekulow, Bob Jones III, Ann Coulter, Ralph Reed, Mark DeMoss, and a host of others. The Mormons were instrumental in keeping gay marriage out of California, a very strategic move to gain mainstream credibility in Christian circles.
Of course if anyone dares to say anything about the FACT Beck is a Mormon and simply hold him accountable for purposely trying to deceive people into thinking he is a Christian, you will immediately be labeled as a hate monger. The Mormon cult plays the same game the homosexuals and baby killers play in demonizing anyone who dares speak out against their cult. Trust me, having been the lone voice for nearly a year in the secular media exposing Romney’s lies and deception about his beliefs, I have been on the receiving end of the Mormon cults vast destruction machine that is geared to destroy anyone who exposes their satanic cults beliefs to the world.
Over the years, I have received numerous death threats from Mormons, been slandered me in their publications and Internet websites, and have endured endless attacks on the Liveprayer technology infrastructure that were traced to Utah. I also have no doubt that the powerful Mormon cult with members at every level of our government, played a huge role in the current IRS investigation to try and take away Liveprayer’s tax exemption simply for exposing Mitt Romney’s lies about his beliefs to the world. Anyone who has ever taken on the Mormon cult knows how dirty and deadly they can be when they go after someone who sheds light on their satanically inspired beliefs and practices.
I actually had an email exchange with Glenn Beck back when I exposed the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping as most likely a Mormon who took her to be one of his brides, which proved to be exactly what happened. It is not infrequent for teen girls in Utah and surrounding states to be kidnapped to become a Mormon’s bride. The difference in the Smart case was her father was a bishop in the Mormon cult and able to marshal the incredible media resources of the cult to make her abduction a national story. I challenged Back at the time to have me on his radio program to discuss the real story of the Smart case, and he replied with a series of nasty emails.
I love you and care about you so much. Like in all cults, the average member hasn’t got a clue what their cult really believes. You only get to know everything after you have proven yourself to be a loyal and worthy member of the cult. That is true in the Mormon cult as well. Most Mormons go to their “church,” sing many of the same hymns they sing at the Baptist church down the road, give their tithe, read a few passages out of the Bible, hear a message about being a “good person,” and go home. It is only when you get to become a “temple Mormon” that you really learn all of the deep, dark, satanic beliefs of Mormonism.
Glenn Beck is too smart of a guy, and I have no doubt he fully understands Mormon theology, and thus is 100% premeditated in his lies and deception in leading people to believe he is a Christian. He has made a personal fortune on the radio and TV espousing a conservative political ideology and his “Christian views.” A good portion of his success has come from Christians he has conned into thinking he is also a Christian. I actually agree with most of his political views, all I am asking him to do is the only thing I have asked Mitt Romney to do, and that is to simply identify himself as a Mormon and quit lying to people that he is a Christian!
That is why I am asking you today to email Beck and his producer Stu, and challenge them to have me on his radio and TV programs to discuss “his faith” and what his cult really believes. You can email Beck and his producer at:
Glenn Beck: me@glennbeck.com Stu (Executive Producer): stu@glennbeck.com
Please pray for Glenn Beck to turn from the lies and false beliefs of the Mormon cult and turn to the only Truth there is, the Bible, and the only one who can save his soul, the Jesus of the Bible. Once again, whatever Glenn Beck wants to believe makes no difference to me. If he wants to wear magical underwear and believe he is going to die and be the god of his own planet with many wives to create spirit babies with for all eternity, that is great. My only issue with Beck is to quit deceiving people and lying to them that he is a Christian, when the theology of the Mormon cult has ZERO, NOTHING to do with Biblical Christianity!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
What a joke. It's one thing to claim that Mormons are not full-fledged Christians. It's another thing to claim that they are flat out a satanist organization. I personally can't take anything else written in the article seriously.
The author is one sick puppy.
Some Christians use the cult card like liberals use the race card.
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