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Bishop Conlon restores Friday abstinence from meat in Diocese of Steubenville
American Papist ^ | April 23, 2009 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 04/23/2009 9:57:33 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/23/2009 9:57:33 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Question: From what do vegetarians abstain on Friday?


2 posted on 04/23/2009 9:58:37 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

he should just let them choose what they wish to abstain from on Fridays....many love fish these days and it is no sacrifice at all.


3 posted on 04/23/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer

Good idea. Maybe it will be a trend.


4 posted on 04/23/2009 10:01:52 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: NYer

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:


5 posted on 04/23/2009 10:02:50 AM PDT by Marie2 (Jesus, take the wheel)
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To: NYer
From what do vegetarians abstain on Friday?
Carnal knowledge.
6 posted on 04/23/2009 10:04:02 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: NYer

1 Tim 4:1-5

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry and COMMANDING TO ABSTAIN FROM FOODS which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.


7 posted on 04/23/2009 10:06:23 AM PDT by Marie2 (Jesus, take the wheel)
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To: NYer

I think the whole Friday abstinence thing was brought about, at first, for economic reasons:

The Church wished to assist the fishing industry!

Seriously, I am often defending the Church against Catholic bashing, on these threads, but I do not completely buy into the fasting issues. Mainly because I forget all the time, life is too hectic, I am often on the road for my business, and drastic changes in diet tend to cause me some digestive problems.


8 posted on 04/23/2009 10:07:18 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Marie2

Do you feel religiously obligated to eat meat every day?


9 posted on 04/23/2009 10:08:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: NYer; tioga

I have no idea what vegetarians do ... perhaps one will show up and tell us.

As for liking fish ... that would be me.

The Friday Abstinence is still a pennance ... for one thing, it’s a constraint ... for another, there are plenty of ‘penitential’ fish dishes: tuna casserole comes to mind. If even that is insufficiently penitential for someone, nobody says you have to eat fish.

All of us engaged in the same penitential act also serves as a sign of unity.

Finally, I note that someone already has the “Irrelevant Scripture Generator” fired up. I recommend ignoring it. YMMV.


10 posted on 04/23/2009 10:08:32 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I highly recommend a Chickpea Dish! For me, penance is making the meals my family wants (and cleaning up after them) instead of what I want (toast).


11 posted on 04/23/2009 10:11:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: Kansas58
1) baloney.

2) Personal weakness (forgetting, hectic life, whatever) is to be overcome, not pandered to.

3) Those with legitimate medical issues should request a dispensation from their pastor.

12 posted on 04/23/2009 10:11:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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“Do you feel religiously obligated to eat meat every day?”

No. I am just pointing out that the Bible says we aren’t supposed to forbid certain foods.


13 posted on 04/23/2009 10:11:53 AM PDT by Marie2 (Jesus, take the wheel)
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To: Tax-chick
I highly recommend a Chickpea Dish!

What like hummus or something? I like that, too. Problem is, there aren't too many legitimate foods that I don't like ... if prepared properly.

14 posted on 04/23/2009 10:12:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Marie2

That’s true. However, it’s also not relevant to a personal decision to deny *oneself* something for one day.

As I mentioned above, I find preparing and cleaning up meat meals all the time to be much more penitential than doing without meat - as most of the world does most of the time, anyway.


15 posted on 04/23/2009 10:13:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: NYer

Is this Steubenville ohio?

ONe of my Nam buds was from there, he never quit
reminding me that Steubenville is the birth place of...

Dean Martin.

Jim McClain this one is for you.


16 posted on 04/23/2009 10:14:49 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Hummus, salads, soup, casserole, chickpeas with noodles, peppers, and tomato ... one could live on nothing else. Fish isn’t worth the cost and trouble, when one is landlocked.


17 posted on 04/23/2009 10:15:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: tioga
he should just let them choose what they wish to abstain from on Fridays

That's been the status quo for my entire lifetime. Unfortunately, no one bothered to tell me until I found out a few years ago.

People heard "you don't have to abstain from meat" and never heard the "but you have to do something penitential on Fridays."

I'd rather have a rule for all, so all understand.

18 posted on 04/23/2009 10:16:20 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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Fish isn’t worth the cost and trouble, when one is landlocked.

Define "landlocked". Seriously. Ever had a mess of fresh-caught, pan-fried sunfish?

There's nothing even remotely "penitential" about that!

19 posted on 04/23/2009 10:16:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Landlocked” includes “not near a farm pond.”


20 posted on 04/23/2009 10:17:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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