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Bishop Conlon restores Friday abstinence from meat in Diocese of Steubenville
American Papist ^ | April 23, 2009 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 04/23/2009 9:57:33 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Tax-chick

I live near the ocean. I fish. Free food. YUM!

Fish, clams, crab. YUM!

I still like chicken best, though.


41 posted on 04/23/2009 10:30:36 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: tet68
Is this Steubenville ohio?

Yes!

42 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:03 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Chicken of the sea?


43 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:12 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Marie2; Tax-chick
COMMANDING TO ABSTAIN FROM FOODS which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

The Church certainly does not command anyone not to receive the Eucharist (thanksgiving) who know the truth (Believe in the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass, the Body and Blood of Christ, with proper disposition as St. Paul commands in 1 Cor 11:27)

So the Holy Roman Catholic Church is in accordance with the teaching you have put forth from St. Paul.

44 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:36 AM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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To: SoothingDave

Sea kittens?


45 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

“Dear friend, the bishop is not forbidding any foods.”

If not, fine. It reads to me as though folks in his area are being told not to eat meat on Fridays. I posted some Scripture on the idea because it seems to me to be a contradictory.

I understand your points about fasts, and history, and I think they are well considered. It’s just when someone starts telling us that we must abstain from a certain thing, or that we must fast, that I get concerned.


46 posted on 04/23/2009 10:32:14 AM PDT by Marie2 (Jesus, take the wheel)
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To: tioga

Psychologically, a uniform rule has benefits.


47 posted on 04/23/2009 10:32:41 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I love clams.


48 posted on 04/23/2009 10:33:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: Marie2
You quote Peter's vision in Acts out of context, too. I notice the pro-pig lobby in Christianity don't tell you the ongoing story...as Paul Harvy used to say, "This is the rest of the story..."

Right after Peter received that vision, he was asked to meet with Cornelius, a Gentile, who wanted to hear Peter's message. Peter goes to Cornelius' home and preaches the gospel there. When Cornelius and his household received the message and the Holy Spirit, Peter said that he was shown that the gentiles were considered clean. That was the real message of the vision (the Gentiles were clean and worthy of hearing the Gospel), it had nothing to do with Peter eating Pork ribs.

And faulty interpretations of the NT do not trump or cancel the Torah.

49 posted on 04/23/2009 10:33:55 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: SoothingDave

I have had tuna. Bluefin, though, not albacore. SO GOOD when really fresh.

We get false albacore, not real albacore like canned tuna, but they are pretty elusive. Frickin incredible fish to catch. a little 8 pounder can strip all the line off a reel (300 yards) in just a couple seconds.


50 posted on 04/23/2009 10:35:51 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Marie2
It reads to me as though folks in his area are being told not to eat meat on Fridays. I posted some Scripture on the idea because it seems to me to be a contradictory.

It is not in the least contradictory. Jesus, His disciples and the Jews of that time all fasted and abstained on Mondays and Thursdays. This practice of self-discipline in reparation to God for sins, is ancient. Have you never offered up a personal sacrifice to God in atonement for your sins?

51 posted on 04/23/2009 10:37:31 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Kansas58

There’s plenty of options out there once you get into it. I don’t even like fish, but I get by—I just order fries, or pizza, or scarf some cookies or whatever.

I agree with you on the Kennedy’s et al. by the way. Some of those people are so far gone it’s not even funny.

But the rest of us who are trying to be good Catholics, we can’t ever rest on our laurels and be a “good enough” Catholic. It’s not enough to be better than Pelosi. The Church has the solemn responsibility to get us to heaven. And no way anything gets to heaven until it is perfect. You and I ain’t perfect. So we need the Church to be the stern voice of discipline once in a while. That’s what the bishop’s doing here. He’s calling the diocese to a higher level of participation, a higher level of holiness.

Anyway, remember, you can put in your penance now here on earth or later in Purgatory. :)


52 posted on 04/23/2009 10:37:37 AM PDT by Claud
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To: ArrogantBustard

Googling sea kitten images with safe-search filters off is fun!


53 posted on 04/23/2009 10:38:16 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: NYer

They have to, as a penance, eat the juiciest steak they can find in the local supermarket that week. If they don’t, they are risking hellfire.


54 posted on 04/23/2009 10:38:25 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Tax-chick
Clams? I love clams!


55 posted on 04/23/2009 10:39:22 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Googling sea kitten images with safe-search filters off might get me fired. Or divorced.

;'}

56 posted on 04/23/2009 10:39:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer; Marie2

It doesn’t seem she has a problem with fasting per se, but with someone telling her to fast.

It’s the old “authority” question.


57 posted on 04/23/2009 10:39:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Tax-chick

I was supposed to go clamming with a coworker right after work today, but he had an erection last night, and can’t make it.

(He’s our lead bridge engineer, and they installed the structural steel last night)


58 posted on 04/23/2009 10:40:57 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Marie2

You make a fair point. But I didn’t read a single word of command from the Bishop there. It’s all “I invite”, “this will not be a requirement of law”, etc

That said: Christ gave Peter the keys. The Church has a right to set its ordinances. And there are not very onerous: the only two fasts of the Church’s year are Good Friday and Ash Wednesday: if I’m not fasting on those days, then its fair to say that I’ve missed something important about what’s going on those days!


59 posted on 04/23/2009 10:41:14 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Houghton M.
You jest ... but I know a couple of folks ... major-league sushi fanatics ... who would find that juicy steak incredibly disgusting.

Different strokes ...

60 posted on 04/23/2009 10:41:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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