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Afghan Bibles Destroyed by U.S. Military
CBN News ^ | May 5, 2009

Posted on 05/05/2009 8:09:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe

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To: jude24

You are a refreshing voice of sanity.


41 posted on 05/06/2009 7:01:50 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: jude24; marshmallow; xzins
We’re fighting to destroy the terrorists that killed 3,000 of our countrymen, and the regime that provided them safe harbor.

Mission accomplished.

Now we are fighting to preserve a constitution and a government that prohibits Christians from practicing their faith.

Apparently that mission has been accomplished too.

Let's burn all the bibles in Afghanistan and let Shariah Law (the same law that the Taliban practiced) rule the day.

The only war that we will end up winning in Afghanistan is the war against Christianity. Ultimately the Taliban will resume power unless Afghanistan embraces freedom of religion in all forms. But America is fighting against that idea.

42 posted on 05/06/2009 7:08:00 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: P-Marlowe

“We should not be sacrificing our soldiers to protect a government that prohibits Christians from being Christians.”

In my one and only reply back on this thread, The US Military IS NOT a Christian organization. The rules of conduct for those in that organization are VERY CLEAR regarding what they can and cannot do. This applies to EVERYONE in that organization. If you can’t obey the rules, you get in trouble. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Christian or a Buddhist.

The soldier knew going in that other than personal effects, those bibles were not permitted. The briefings on these matters are quite explicit in detail.


43 posted on 05/06/2009 7:38:37 AM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: jude24
We shouldn’t even be fighting for “democracy.”

I agree.

I think Iraq has taught us that lesson.

We’re fighting to destroy the terrorists that killed 3,000 of our countrymen, and the regime that provided them safe harbor. Anything that interferes with that narrowly defined mission is not the business of the U.S. military.

Eliminating a hostile regime of necessity requires replacing it with a more acceptable alternative. One can't invade a sovereign nation, topple its government and then depart with the country in chaos.

44 posted on 05/06/2009 7:49:36 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: P-Marlowe
“The only war that we will end up winning in Afghanistan is the war against Christianity.”

I have regularly had the feeling, over the past 18 years or so, that a war at least incidentally against Christianity on behalf of Wahabbism is exactly what we have been waging, but very few Americans, especially around here, seem to agree.

45 posted on 05/06/2009 8:35:10 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: swmobuffalo; xzins; jude24; Kolokotronis; armymarinemom; enat; pissant; Lancey Howard; reaganaut
In my one and only reply back on this thread, The US Military IS NOT a Christian organization.

The US Military is apparently enforcing Sharia Law in Afghanistan.

That would make the US Military a Muslim Organization.

The rules of conduct for those in that organization are VERY CLEAR regarding what they can and cannot do.

No bibles at a Bible study? Where is that rule published?

If you can’t obey the rules, you get in trouble. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Christian or a Buddhist.

But it's OK if you are a Muslim. For them, the rules do not apply.

46 posted on 05/06/2009 8:41:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: marshmallow
One can't invade a sovereign nation, topple its government and then depart with the country in chaos.

Where is that rule written?

47 posted on 05/06/2009 8:44:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: OneWingedShark
Because the First Amendment is all about preventing religious practice.

That still doesn't change the fact that either the post office messed up or the Church lied.

48 posted on 05/06/2009 8:46:16 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: P-Marlowe
The United States Military destroyed Bibles. The United States Military destroyed Bibles. The United States Military destroyed Bibles. The United States Military destroyed Bibles

It would have been much better to destroy U.S. soldiers over the foolish actions of a well meaning but misguided church.

49 posted on 05/06/2009 8:47:47 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: armymarinedad; swmobuffalo; xzins; jude24; Kolokotronis; armymarinemom; enat; pissant; ...
It would have been much better to destroy U.S. soldiers over the foolish actions of a well meaning but misguided church.

If the cause we are fighting for in Afghanistan is one in which Bibles are prohibited and Christianity is forbidden, then we have no business there. Our mission was to remove the Taliban from power. We did that seven years ago. We are now propping us a regime that is antithetical to our own notions of Liberty and justice. I think it is time we just packed up and left.

When our Military is engaged in desecrating the Bible in order to appease the Militant Islamic Government of a country, then I think it is time we let those people run their own damned country without the benefit of American blood.

This little episode where the US Military actually desecrated and destroyed Bibles to mollify a bunch of radical Islamists has been an epiphany for me. We have lost this war.

50 posted on 05/06/2009 8:59:10 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: armymarinedad
So you think the Military should be in the business of disciplining any soldier who would dare to harm a Koran while at the same time the Military is actively engaged in desecrating and destroying Bibles?

Is that the mission you support?

51 posted on 05/06/2009 9:30:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: P-Marlowe

The only war that we will end up winning in Afghanistan is the war against Christianity. Ultimately the Taliban will resume power unless Afghanistan embraces freedom of religion in all forms. But America is fighting against that idea.

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I agree completely. I supported the war wholeheartedly back when it started. Now I question it, for the exact reasons you stated.


52 posted on 05/06/2009 10:21:55 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: P-Marlowe
So you think the Military should be in the business of disciplining any soldier who would dare to harm a Koran while at the same time the Military is actively engaged in desecrating and destroying Bibles? Is that the mission you support?

No

Why are so calloused to the welfare of our troops and so concerned about a book? Please explain Christ's grace in that stance.

53 posted on 05/06/2009 10:49:50 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: armymarinedad; reaganaut
Why are so calloused to the welfare of our troops and so concerned about a book?

If we are protecting the Koran and destroying the Bible in order not to upset the Government of Afghanistan, then for the sake of our troops, we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan.

Frankly at this point (the point where we destroy Bibles as part of our war effort) I don't see the purpose of our mission there. Perhaps you can explain it to me.

Please explain Christ's grace in that stance.

What stance? That we ought not to be supporting a regime that is antithetical to Christianity? I think it is pretty obvious that Christ (who told us to preach the gospel to every nation) would not be looking graciously upon a nation or a military that would burn the Bible while protecting the Koran and upholding a government that executes Christians for believing in Christ.

Do you?

54 posted on 05/06/2009 11:10:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Somebody stole my tagline)
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To: P-Marlowe
That we ought not to be supporting a regime that is antithetical to Christianity?

Could you please give me the Scripture defining what a Christian government looks like?

55 posted on 05/06/2009 11:45:40 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: armymarinemom

You evidently missed the HUGE pile of sarcasm there.


56 posted on 05/06/2009 1:21:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: armymarinedad

Revelation of St John the Devine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jerusalem


57 posted on 05/06/2009 1:25:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Correct. So could we please stop expecting a Christian government on this earth until Christ returns.


58 posted on 05/06/2009 1:33:30 PM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: reaganaut

I firmly believe that 1/2 the world’s Muslim women would convert, if they weren’t kept as chattel and their husbands would be more tolerant. I don’t believe those women enjoy the cruel male-dominated society of hate they live in. Only the men there enjoy it. The Gospel message of God’s love must surely speak very loudly to those poor women who get the chance to hear it. If women every got the upper hand in the Muslim countries, Islam would disappear from the earth.


59 posted on 05/06/2009 3:09:30 PM PDT by RedDogzRule (God bless America...because God knows we need it, especially now...!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree with you that destroying a Koran would cause a PR nightmare and require the jihadists to go kill someone.

However, one of the important differences between Christianity and islam is that we do not worship ink on a page. They do. They say they don’t, but their actions say they do.

Jesus’ words are spirit and they are life.

You just get more bibles and next time you don’t turn them over. You leave them one at a time sitting on a wall or next to a pole or on a table.

We can have a big argument about this, or we can recognize the avenue that’s available for getting out the word and avail ourselves of it. In our era, there is absolutely no reason for a Christian to be punished for bibles that are too easily turned over and later replenished.


60 posted on 05/06/2009 3:09:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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