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Galileo: The Trump Card of Catholic Urban Legends
Pittsburgh Catholic ^ | 5/15/09 | Robert P. Lockwood

Posted on 05/18/2009 9:12:37 PM PDT by bdeaner

The film “Angels and Demons” brings up the Catholic Church’s so-called war on science and the church’s treatment of Italian scientist Galileo Galilei. The following analysis sheds much-needed light on the case.

In October 1992, Cardinal Paul Poupard presented to Pope John Paul II the results of the Pontifical Academy study of the famous 1633 trial of Galileo. He reported the study’s conclusion that at the time of the trial, “theologians ... failed to grasp the profound non-literal meaning of the Scriptures” when they condemned Galileo for describing a universe that seemed to contradict Scripture.

The headlines that followed screamed that the church had reversed itself on the 17th century astronomer, and commentators wondered about the impact of the study on papal infallibility and that the church had finally surrendered in its war with science.

Which only proved once again that the trial of Galileo — even more so than the Inquisition — is the granddaddy of all Catholic urban legends. Galileo is the alleged proof that the church is anti-science and anti-modern thought. He is the all-encompassing trump card, played whether the discussion is over science, abortion, gay rights, legalized pornography or simply as a legitimate reason for anti-Catholicism itself. If Galileo had never lived, the anti-Catholic culture would have had to invent him.

Like many urban Catholic legends, we are all infected a bit by the propaganda surrounding Galileo. Here’s a little just-the-facts that might help the next time someone tries to throw this urban legend in your face:

Was the church opposed to scientific study at the time of Galileo?

Most of the early scientific progress, particularly astronomy, was rooted in the church. Galileo would not so much “discover” that the Earth revolved around the sun, but attempt to prove the theories of a Catholic priest who had died 20 years before Galileo was born, Nicholas Copernicus. It was also the church at that time, under the aegis of Pope Gregory XIII, which introduced one of the major achievements of modern astronomy when Galileo was in his teens.

The Western world still marked time by the Julian calendar created in 46 B.C. By Galileo’s day, the calendar was 12 days off, leaving church feasts woefully behind the seasons for which they were intended. It was Pope Gregory XIII who was able to present a more accurate calendar in 1582. Though Protestant Europe fumed at the imposition of “popish time,” the accuracy of Gregory’s calendar led to its acceptance throughout the West.

What did Copernicus discover?

Through mathematical examination Copernicus came to believe that the Earth and the planets in our solar system revolve around it — contrary to popular and scientific understanding at the time, which had a fixed Earth at the center of the entire universe. His manuscript would circulate in scholarly circles, though it would not be formally published until he was on his deathbed in 1543. But Pope Leo X (1513-1521) had been intrigued by his theories and expressed an interest in hearing them advanced. For the most part, the church raised no objections to his revolutionary hypothesis after his death, as long as it was represented as theory, not undisputed fact. The difficulty that the church had with the theory is that it was perceived as contradicting Scripture where it was written that Joshua had made the sun stand still and the Psalmist praised the Earth “set firmly in place.” Most important, the theory could not be proven by current scientific technology.

Galileo is often portrayed as a pure scientist ranting and raging against religious oppression. Is this an accurate picture of the man?

The myth we have of Galileo is that of a faithless renegade attacked by a church afraid of science. It’s false on all counts. Galileo was a traditional believing Catholic — his daughter was a devout nun — who saw no contradiction between his science and his faith. He had begun to study and write on the Copernican theory and was recognized as the leading astronomer of his day. In 1611, he was honored in Rome for his work, receiving a favorable audience with Pope Paul V, and became friends with Cardinal Maffeo Barberini, the future Pope Urban VIII, who would celebrate the astronomer with a poem.

Sounds good so far. What happened?

Galileo produced his first book — “The Starry Messenger” — detailing his observations in 1610, describing the moons of Jupiter, the location of stars and that the moon was not a perfect sphere. Galileo became a controversial celebrity, while being carved up by fellow scientists.

At the same time, instead of keeping the debate on a theoretical plane involving mathematics, astronomy and observation, Galileo entered the murky post-Reformation waters of theology and Scriptural interpretation. His theory was that nature cannot contradict the Bible, and if it appeared to do so it is because we do not adequately understand the deeper biblical interpretation.

This sounds pretty much like a Catholic understanding of the role of faith and science. How did he get into so much trouble? Essentially, Galileo slipped into trouble on three accounts. First, he was teaching Copernican theory as fact, rather than hypothesis, when there really was no scientific fact to back it up. Second, the popularity of his writings brought an essentially philosophical discussion into the public arena, requiring some sort of church response. Third, by elevating scientific conjecture to a theological level, he was raising the stakes enormously. Instead of merely scientific disputation, Galileo was now lecturing on Scriptural interpretation. Galileo could have avoided trouble if he presented his work as theory and if he had stuck to science rather than elevating the whole issue to a theological dispute over the meaning of Scripture.

At the same time, Galileo was making few friends with the scientific establishment of his day. It is forgotten that when Galileo is portrayed as the hero of science over religion, most of his real enemies were fellow scientists.

Why did science at the time oppose his views?

Throughout his career Galileo was opposed by the vast majority of astronomers who still supported the Ptolemaic view of the universe, called geocentrism. The Ptolemaic system, named after the second century A.D. astronomer Claudius Ptolemaeus, placed the Earth at the center of the universe, a view accepted as fact since the time of the ancient Greeks and that remained unchallenged until the 17th century.

Even after Copernicus raised serious questions regarding geocentrism, most astronomers obdurately clung to the Ptolemaic system. One of them was famed scientist Tycho Brahe, who constructed the so-called Tychonic system that still placed the Earth at the center of the universe with the sun revolving around it, but then suggested all of the other planets revolved around the sun in a complex set of epicycles. The invention of telescopes from 1609 brought advances in astronomy, but decades passed before Kepler’s laws of planetary motion and Newton’s laws of gravitation were widely embraced.

How did the church respond to all this?

Actually, the church responded lightly. In February 1616, a council of theological advisers to the pope ruled that it was quite possibly heresy to teach as fact that the sun, rather than the Earth, was at the center of the universe, and that the Earth rotates on its axis. Galileo was not condemned, but Cardinal Robert Bellarmine was asked to convey the news to Galileo, advise him of the panel’s ruling, and order him to cease defending his theories as fact. He also asked him to avoid any further inroads into discussion of Scriptural interpretation. Galileo agreed.

Did he break his word?

In 1623, Cardinal Barberini was elected Pope Urban VIII. With the election of his friend and supporter, Galileo assumed that the atmosphere could be ripe for a reversal of the 1616 edict. In 1624, he headed off to Rome again to meet the new pope. Pope Urban had intimated that the 1616 edict would not have been published had he been pope at the time, and took credit for the word “heresy” not appearing in the formal edict.

Yet, Pope Urban also believed that the Copernican theory could never be proven and he was only willing to allow Galileo the right to discuss it as hypothesis. Galileo was encouraged, however, and proceeded over the next six years to write a “dialogue” on the Copernican theory. Galileo published his “Dialogue” in February 1632. The book was received with massive protest.

Why was the “Dialogue” so upsetting?

Galileo had so weighted his argument in favor of Copernican theory as truth — and managed to insult the pope’s own expressed view that complex matters observed in nature were to be simply attributed to the mysterious power of God — that a firestorm was inevitable. His scientific enemies were infuriated with Galileo’s often snide and ridiculing dismissal of their views. The “Dialogue” was also seen within the church as a direct public challenge to the 1616 edict.

The difficulty that Galileo encountered with church authorities was that he appeared to attack the veracity of Scripture with no acceptable proof for his belief that the Earth revolved around the sun. He had attempted to make such proofs through an argument based on the Earth’s tides (a scientifically incorrect one), but 17th century science simply was incapable of establishing that the Earth did, in fact, orbit the sun. And, finally, he appeared to be openly challenging a church edict to which he had earlier agreed.

What happened at Galileo’s trial?

Galileo’s trial did not take place before 10 cardinals as it is often pictured. Participants were Galileo, two officials and a secretary. The 10 cardinals would only review the testimony to render judgment. Galileo’s defense was that he had understood from Cardinal Bellarmine that he had not been condemned in 1616 and that the “Dialogue” did not, in fact, support the Copernican theory as fact. His first defense was probable. He was certainly not aware of a more restrictive notice that had been placed in the 1616 file specifically targeting him, which was revealed at the 1633 trial. His second defense, however, does not stand much scrutiny. The “Dialogue” was clearly a presentation and defense of the Copernican hypothesis as truth.

Seven of the 10 tribunal cardinals signed a condemnation of Galileo (the three remaining never signed it). The condemnation found Galileo “vehemently suspected of heresy” in teaching as truth that the Earth moves and is not the center of the world. He was found guilty in persisting in such teaching when he had been formally warned not to do so in 1616. His book was prohibited, he was ordered confined to formal imprisonment, to publicly renounce his beliefs and to perform proper penance.

Was the trial a battle between faith and science?

The trial of Galileo is most often portrayed in terms that it clearly was not: Galileo the scientist arguing the supremacy of reason and science over faith; the tribunal judges demanding that reason abjure to faith. The trial was neither. Galileo and the tribunal judges shared a common view that science and the Bible could not stand in contradiction. If there appeared to be a contradiction, such a contradiction resulted from either weak science or poor interpretation of Scripture. This was clearly understood by Cardinal Bellarmine, for example, who had argued just that point in 1615. Cardinal Bellarmine had written that if the “orbiting of the Earth around the sun were ever to be demonstrated to be certain, then theologians ... would have to review biblical passages apparently opposed to the Copernican theories so as to avoid asserting the error of opinions proven to be true.”

The mistakes that were made came from Galileo’s own personality and style, the Holy Father’s anger in believing that Galileo had personally deceived him, jealous competitive scientists out to get the acerbic Galileo and, frankly, tribunal judges who erroneously believed it was scientific fact that the universe revolved around a motionless Earth and that the Bible confirmed such a belief.

In his 1991 report, Cardinal Poupard briefly summarized the findings. The difficulty in 1616 — and 1633 — was that “Galileo had not succeeded in proving irrefutably the double motion of the Earth. ... More than 150 years still had to pass before” such proofs were scientifically established. At the same time, “(T)heologians ... failed to grasp the profound, non-literal meaning of the Scriptures when they describe the physical structure of the created universe. This led them unduly to transpose a question of factual observation into the realm of faith.”

Was it only in 1992 that the church reversed itself on Galileo?

Galileo died in 1642. In 1741, Pope Benedict XIV granted an imprimatur to the first edition of the complete works of Galileo. In 1757, a new edition of the Index of Forbidden Books allowed works that supported the Copernican theory, as science had moved to the point where the theory could be proven.

The story of Galileo had nothing to do with the church being opposed to science. Galileo was condemned because he could not scientifically prove his theory to be fact, because he was undermined by many of his fellow scientists, and because he had purposefully blurred the lines between science and theology.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catholic; catholicism; copernicus; galileo; inquisition; science; urbanlegend
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To: GunRunner

But that, too, was the case in the time of Galileo also. The Church determined who was and who was not a heretic. The state chose to punish heresy, often by death, because it equated heresy with treason, but the Church’s own punishment was penitential work and, at worst, excommunication.


121 posted on 05/19/2009 12:55:31 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

In our system, that is thankfully not the case. The church has no power to carry out any judicial punishments and membership in the church is strictly voluntary.


122 posted on 05/19/2009 1:00:45 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: DesertRhino
That is a huge distortion. The Church firmly argued then that the earth was the center of everything. The church wasnt the guardian of purity on science in 1600. They were deathly afraid of anything that might threaten their theology, and thereby, their temporal power.

Wow. And now they're the most science-worshiping, reason-worshiping, anti-literal Church in the world.

Ironic.

123 posted on 05/19/2009 1:11:05 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Haqrev 'et-matteh Levi veha`amadta 'oto lifney 'Aharon HaKohen; vesheretu 'oto.)
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To: GunRunner

The Monarchists are coming! The Monarchists are coming!

Don’t worry, GunRunner. When the Monarchists make their comeback, they won’t be coming to the U.S. America will rediscover its roots as a constitutional republic.

In the meantime, the egalitarian revolution is doing wonders for this country, isn’t it?


124 posted on 05/19/2009 1:17:30 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: GunRunner

“In our system, that is thankfully not the case. The church has no power to carry out any judicial punishments and membership in the church is strictly voluntary.”

In our system, that is thankfully not the case. The NEA has no power to carry out any punishments and membership in the union and attendance at NEA schools is strictly voluntary.


125 posted on 05/19/2009 1:21:49 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: GunRunner

The difference is that the modern state does not punish heresy. As far as the Church is concerned, she is what she always was, — no change. In Galileo’s time the Church was voluntary also. The Church could order the state around only because the people running the state were also Catholic, but the Church did not exercise any direct control over the affairs of the state, including its laws against heresy.


126 posted on 05/19/2009 1:35:04 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
The difference is that the modern state does not punish heresy.

Yes, like I said in my first post; there are no more religious crimes judicially decided by the church.

The church can decide heresy takes place, but heresy is not a crime.

All good things.

127 posted on 05/19/2009 1:46:03 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

128 posted on 05/19/2009 2:25:40 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

liberals believe in freedom for all. They don’t prosecute heresy, do they?


129 posted on 05/19/2009 2:26:17 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT
THE PAPISTS ARE COMING!
130 posted on 05/19/2009 2:27:39 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: GunRunner

Objectively, it is a crime, whether the state acknowledges that or not. It is a crime of fraud.


131 posted on 05/19/2009 2:52:42 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
If you fake being Catholic, you might be A fraud, but you're not COMITTING fraud. There is no crime that has legal recourse, unlike the days of Galileo and Bruno.

That I'm grateful for.

132 posted on 05/19/2009 3:38:50 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

If Priest Bruno (modern or in 17c) says: “The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was not perpetually virgin”, then he is committing a fraud on anyone who believes Fr. Bruno.


133 posted on 05/19/2009 3:43:54 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Let me clarify: the fraud is not whether Our Lady historically was/was not perpetually virgin, and the fraud is not in Fr. Bruno stating his opinion on that matter. The fraud is in attributing to the Church a position she does not hold, and doing so with authority.


134 posted on 05/19/2009 3:49:18 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Thank you for your kind words.

I ain't that smart, but I went to a smart college (and I wanted to know all about the stars when I was little.) At Saint Johns we really did read the Timaeus, right much Ptolemy, (and more Aristotle - AND Dante) and a little Copernicus and a pretty good chunk of Kepler and Newton.

I'm thinking that one of the things that is being developed in all this is, "Just what IS natural science and how do you do it?" And this development probably accounts for a lot of what seems to us to be church people messing with scientists and the other way round. Sartre or Kierkegaard wouldn't feel a need to develop and explain a cosmology, and Tillich or Pinckaers wouldn't think he had to account for the movements of the planets.

The Church history I got from light reading with inadequate footnotes.

Politics -- is the duty of a free man.

But whatever you meant, your post gave me a nice feeling, and I'm grateful for it. Bless you.

135 posted on 05/19/2009 5:15:35 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

AND if you click the heels together and say “There’s NO place like home,” you end up in Kansas. it is beyond the spheres of religion or science to determine whether this outcome ought to be desired ....


136 posted on 05/19/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
So what would you call him ???

Ari?

Said Aristotle unto Plato,
"Have another sweet potato."
Said Plato unto Aristotle,
"Thank you. I prefer the bottle."

137 posted on 05/19/2009 6:18:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: DesertRhino
The essence of the whole thing is that the church back then simply did not respect freedom of the individual.

The Church believed the same thing that Edmund Burke, the Father of Conservatism believed: you cannot have freedom without order.

This is a huge reason why our ancestors left Europe. It is why we have a first amendment prohibiting “an establishment of religion”.

Let's not forget the prohibition against abridging the freedom of religion. Never mind that the government has prohibited God in public places.

No man of God should have arrest power over an individual, then or now.

Only those virtuous government gun-grabbers can be trusted with such a heavy responsibility.

138 posted on 05/19/2009 8:13:29 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: Antoninus

LOL! Even on DU you’d have to search hard for someone who will say that arresting rapists and thieves is somehow “oppressive and ignominious”.


139 posted on 05/20/2009 9:37:15 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b
LOL! Even on DU you’d have to search hard for someone who will say that arresting rapists and thieves is somehow “oppressive and ignominious”.

Zooom!

That sound you heard was the Chesterton quote going right over the Babylon-5 hat on your pointy little head.
140 posted on 05/20/2009 9:43:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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