I have a message for Greg "SpamLDS" West:
Posted on 06/22/2009 7:01:44 PM PDT by delacoert
Maybe you'l recognize the name of the author. It explains everything.
Bold to say ‘leave the Bible alone and focus the mark’s mind upon the book of mormon from Joe smith’.
Wow there’s so many half-truths one hardly knows where to begin.
Wouldn’t want you folks to miss this one!
I have a message for Greg "SpamLDS" West:
INTREP
Wow there’s so many half-truths one hardly knows where to begin.
Please begin anyway. I would like to know what they are. Some of what he said sounded interesting.
Let Me Understand You
The book is based on Reformed Egyptian, but there is not even a fragment of Reformed Egyptian in the world.
The book mentions places and cities which do not exist in the western hemisphere.
The book alleges that the Native Americans are descended from the Middle East, when genetic studies associate them with Mongolia and northeast Asia.
The book is loaded with grammatical errors and is a difficult read due to its poor composition.
The book originated from Golden Plates, but there are no gold plates to be found.
The book has nearly 4000 changes in it since its first printing, including important changes of meaning.
The book includes words with Greek, French and Latin origins, all languages which didn’t emerge on the world scene until centuries after the people sailed from the Middle East to the new world.
The book speaks of steel, a fairly recent technology.
The book mentions critters that weren’t in the western hemisphere in those days.
The book speaks of 2,000,000 guys wiping each other out in one day of battle, dwarfing by many times the bloodiest days of battle in known military history. That’s 42.3 men killed every second for 12 hours! That’s twice the population of Salt Lake County! And every man is K I A; none were left wounded!
The book allegedly had witnesses, but the witnesses of the gold plates later said that they didn’t actually see the plates with their physical eyes.
The book alleges to contain the fullness of the gospel, but doesn’t include baptism for the dead, age 8 as the age of accountability, men becoming gods, temple marriage, the temple ceremony, temple garments, God once a man, multiple other gods in other universes, blood atonement, water for the sacrament, the Adam God doctrine, three heavens, preexistence, God having a body, Jesus as a lesser god, family sealings or any other doctrine unique and vital to the Church.
The book copies passages directly from the King James Version of the Bible, including the italicized words supplied by the KJV translators in the 1600’s.
The book’s original language is allegedly verified by a professor of Greek and Latin at Columbia, but he wrote a letter denying the allegation, calling the book a scam.
The book’s author was a convicted con man who lied, cheated, stole, started a fraudulent bank, wrote and uttered lists of false prophecies, married other mens’ wives while publicly denying it, married young teen girls, boasted that he did it better than Jesus, and destroyed another man’s printing press.
And you want me to close my eyes and pray about the book to see if it’s true?
Mormonism belongs with other cults on the ash heap of Gnosticism.
Adam disobeys God and eats an apple and for that every human in the history of the world had to suffer . Hmmmm...while I believe in Christ / God the Bible , especially the Old Testament , is enough to make even the most fervent Christian have doubts ...
Adam disobeyed GOD and ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Never says apple( to my knowledge). They committed sin by placing their own desires above what GOD told them. So sin entered the world. Painfull childbirth and thorns on fruit.... I think mostly symbolism...However I do believe their was an actual Adam and Eve just as I believe there was an actual JESUS.
The first lie I see is, "The origin of the New Testament begins with two second-century heretics."
It is more than a little repulsive to say that the origin of the NT is connected with heresy, let alone to say that heresy is at the beginning. Anyone worth taking serious begins by talking about the origins of the books of the new testament. West just wants to highlight disagreement.
WHAT??
How to explain the JST and the Articles of Faith that states:
"as long as it's translated correctly"?
Actually, he ate from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil by his own volition independent from the volition of God, which God had previously told him not to eat thereof.
***And you want me to close my eyes and pray about the book to see if it’s true?***
Take a little “Dave’s Insanity Sauce” first. It gives a real good “burning in the boosom” plus a few other places!
The next big lie that strikes me is the author's attempt to draw this clean line of responsibility for choosing the NT canon by connecting the dots between Marcion, Montanus, Origen, etc. It is nonsense to attribute such authority over cannon to this list of handpicked heretics.
Do you believe the Bible was created as a single book, or as a compilation of many books and letters?
Give a try!
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