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50 Reasons Why We Are Living In The End Times: Part 1
Lamb and Lion Ministries Blog ^ | 13 JULY 2009 | Dr. David R. Reagan

Posted on 07/25/2009 2:40:04 AM PDT by Quix

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To: netmilsmom
Again, offense is qualia.

I imagine there are many liberals who took no offense at the black journalist's coining the term but then took great offense at the term being repeated by a person they loathe. In which case the offense was not the term but the very existence of someone hated.

I cannot judge offense taken as right or wrong. It is what it is.

But I can and do judge hate as wrong.

Indeed, the very sight of Bush waving and smiling might be an offense to those suffering from "Bush Derangement Syndrome." Hate in their case was making them sick.

Of a truth, not many have a judicial temperament allowing them in the normal course of a day to separate the matter from the person as we Christians learn to do (I Cor 6:1-8, Matthew 7).

721 posted on 10/20/2009 11:28:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
The draping of the arm over the cross is offensive to me.

Without a better picture, I don't we that we can be certain of that. It looks as if some of her fingers might be on the top of the cross, but that could also be the angle. As I said before, other than the photographer's title we have no actual way of knowing WHO is even being depicted.

722 posted on 10/20/2009 11:34:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne; wagglebee; Quix; Iscool; Alamo-Girl
But I guess one will see what one wants to see.

So true. What do you see here?

Our Lady of All Nations, New Mexico

723 posted on 10/20/2009 11:49:27 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Well that doesn’t really answer this question...
“And is it correct to come into a discussion on Rush’s bigotry and use “Barack the Magic Negro” as an example of it?”

Qualia is only a theory. It is not an absolute. There are many critics of it. So let’s put that aside for a moment.

If one is offended by a idea, with no explanation of the intent of that idea, should it be used as an example of a way to prove something?

In otherwords, is using “Barack the Magic Negro” as proof that Rush is a racist correct understanding that the song was a parody of one person rather than any black?

Simply, I’m not seeing proof that this was carved by a Catholic nor that it is on a Catholic grave and especially the context of the carving. We don’t even know that this was “Mary” and not the woman burried there. There is nothing but a title on a photograph by Ivan.

Yet, it was brought onto a thread with a heated discussion about “Catholics” putting Mary on a cross. Could it be that a Presbyterian carved it? A Lutheran grave? Or would that just be silly?


724 posted on 10/20/2009 11:49:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; netmilsmom; Judith Anne
What I see is rendering of Our Lady of Guadalupe. She is standing IN FRONT of a cross, she is most certainly not on the cross.

And, as an aside, I find it odd that you attribute this to a location in New Mexico when the words abover her head are in German.

725 posted on 10/20/2009 11:53:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
It evidently doesn't offend you. It does me. That's life. LOL!
726 posted on 10/20/2009 11:53:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I see Mary standing in front of a cross that is mounted on the Earth.

I’m not seeing Mary “on” a cross. If you are seeing Mary “on” a cross, you would totally freak out at the pictures of my girls standing in front of the cross at my church.


727 posted on 10/20/2009 11:57:08 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
There's lots of symbols in that one, but Mary is in front of the cross and not draped on it - so I interpret it best case scenario as Mary inviting the sheep of the world to the cross - or worse case scenario, a sheep would have to go through her to get to the cross.
728 posted on 10/20/2009 11:59:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

It’s from a cult.

Vatican rejects prayer to “Lady of All Nations”

The Vatican City’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith does not permit any Catholic community of Christ’s faithful in the country and throughout the world “to pray to the Mother of God” under the title of ‘Lady of All Nations’ with the added phrase ‘who was once Mary’.

(gotta love Unity Publishing)


729 posted on 10/20/2009 12:01:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
Yet, it was brought onto a thread with a heated discussion about “Catholics” putting Mary on a cross. Could it be that a Presbyterian carved it? A Lutheran grave? Or would that just be silly?

Here's a better question, how did this subject even come up on a Pentecostal End Times thread?

Oh yeah, because whenever arguments between anti-Catholic get too uncomfortable they can do one of two things:
A. Face the reality that the man-made invention of "sola scriptura" is inherently flawed, otherwise ALL Christians would reach the same conclusion about EVERY verse.
or
B. Unite around their mutual hatred of Catholics and change the subject.

It seems that they invariably choose option B.

730 posted on 10/20/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: netmilsmom
I don't recall ever saying it was a Catholic graveyard though in Nicaragua that would be likely.

I also do not think an artist's rendering depicts Church dogma or teaching - unless of course it is done by commission for the Church, according to it's specification and approved by it's authority.

All that we know of this is the image itself and the photographer's description: "Mary's Sacrifice, Granada, Nicaragua."

He doesn't appear to have any motive other than to make money from prints, so I deduce his description is sincerely written.

731 posted on 10/20/2009 12:08:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: netmilsmom

Interesting. I wonder what would happen if I started posting pictures of men with white hoods circled around a burning cross and asked if all Protestants prayed this way.


732 posted on 10/20/2009 12:08:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Alamo-Girl; netmilsmom
I don't recall ever saying it was a Catholic graveyard though in Nicaragua that would be likely.

Then again it's entirely possible that the cross was once upright and fell during the wars there during the 1980s and the people in charge of the cemetery decided to leave it the way it came to rest.

733 posted on 10/20/2009 12:11:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; netmilsmom; Petronski
I just found a photo gallery from a Nicaragua tour site that has a picture of a cemetery and I suspect that the one we are discussing is in the view.

It is the clothed figure on a raised platform with cross to the left and the back. Sadly, there's not much detail, so I'm not sure: nicatour

734 posted on 10/20/2009 12:24:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

>>Here’s a better question, how did this subject even come up on a Pentecostal End Times thread? <<

Good question!


735 posted on 10/20/2009 12:29:54 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Alamo-Girl

If you ever visit Massachusetts, I recommend the cemetery in Concond. It is exceptionally lovely.

http://www.concordma.gov/pages/concordma_cemetery/sleepy


736 posted on 10/20/2009 12:31:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Excellent points.


737 posted on 10/20/2009 12:32:34 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
And, as an aside, I find it odd that you attribute this to a location in New Mexico when the words abover her head are in German.

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LOL! Good point!

738 posted on 10/20/2009 12:34:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

>>I don’t recall ever saying it was a Catholic graveyard though in Nicaragua that would be likely.<<

No one should think a thing of it. And their offense should be their own.

In fact, when you state that you know that it’s Protestant because you’re sure that Catholics never pray that way AND say how Anti-scriptural it is, make fun and belittle anyone who disagrees with you all the while quoting scripture.

Because it isn’t the facts, it’s the accusation that counts.


739 posted on 10/20/2009 12:35:47 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: trisham
Thank you so much for the tip, dear trisham! I would love to go and check it out!
740 posted on 10/20/2009 12:50:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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