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Turkish Government Denies Request for Church in Tarsus
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| 8/5/09
Posted on 08/06/2009 1:24:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
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So much Christian history in Turkey.......Tarsus......Ephesus......Antioch......Constantinople. One day, by God's grace, it will throw off the yoke of Islam but I don't know when.
To: marshmallow
The Turk’s very act of denial speaks to the weakness of their faith.
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posted on
08/06/2009 1:29:49 PM PDT
by
AxelPaulsenJr
(Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
To: marshmallow
"It is a lack of respect for the right to religious freedom and freedom to worship," the bishop said.Uh... welcome to Islam, Bishop Obvious.
To: marshmallow
Why even ask a Muslim for anything. The West should reciprocate and tell Muslims to demolish their ugly mosques.
Oops, I forgot, the West is no longer Christian and Islam knows it. There is nothing to stop or slow down their take-over of the West.
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posted on
08/06/2009 1:32:59 PM PDT
by
353FMG
To: marshmallow
More “tolerance” from this bunch.
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posted on
08/06/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: marshmallow
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posted on
08/06/2009 3:20:03 PM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: marshmallow; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
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posted on
08/06/2009 3:33:36 PM PDT
by
NYer
("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: ZULU
sapwned by the desert of Central Asia who destroyed the people and civilzations of Anatolia.
Well, actually most people who now identify themselves are "Turks" in Turkey are really of Anatolian descent with very minor Turkish blood, if at all. They are really Luwian, Lydian, Armenian, Greek, Hittite, Roman etc. blood -- very little actual turkic blood, quite ethnically distinct from uzbeks, Turkomen etc. who in turn have a lot of Irani blood.
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posted on
08/07/2009 5:51:07 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Cronos
“Well, actually most people who now identify themselves are “Turks” in Turkey are really of Anatolian descent with very minor Turkish blood, if at all.”
I think you would need to execute a genetic test to prove that. I have ssen Turks myself and they appear to be a mixed bag ethnically, but certainly don't resemble the images of pre-Turkish Anatolians that are extant.
At any rate, the cultural milieu they created there was certainly a far cry from the advanced civilizations of Greece, the Hittites, etc and most certainly alien to that of the predominantly Christian, pre-Turkish culture which existed there before their unfortunate arrival.
As a matter of fact, if I remember my history correctly, one of the main reasons that the First Crusade was necessary was because the Seljuk Turks had arrived in the area and, unlike their Arabic predecessors, were denying entry to Christian holy sites in Palestine, attacking Eastern Greek Christians, and persecuting and abusing Christian pilgrims from western Europe.
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posted on
08/07/2009 7:07:52 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
To: a_Turk
ADDITIONALLY, one of the reasons the Balkans are so politically unstable is due to attacks by YOUR people against the Christian states of that area, and your kidnapping of Christian young boys to serve as slave soldiers - Janissaries - against their own parents and relatives, as well as capturing THEM and Christian women to satisfy the insatiable lusts of your people as sex slaves.
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posted on
08/07/2009 7:11:12 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
To: ZULU
Genetic origins of the Turkish people
This states that "Scientists have long debated the extent to which this shift in language was accompanied by a genetic replacement of the former population,[1] and it has been concluded that despite the overemphasis on their Central Asian roots,[2] the Anatolian Turks are overwhelmingly indigenous to the area and they are in no sense racially mongoloid.[3] "
The hittites, Lydians etc of course were merged with the Greeks by 1000 AD when the Seljuk turks came. The Turks, had already heavily intermarried with the Irani and Armenian and Georgian people and others.
They mostly just co-opted the existing Byzantine greek culture and organisation, just sitting on top and taking the money. They were just a minority ruling over a large majority. Over the centuries, their language became the lingua franca, but the people remained ethnically more closely related to Greeks, Armenians etc. rather than to Turkomen.
Finally, the First Crusade was due to the Egyptian Fatimid Caliph who attacked the Church of the holy Sepulchre.
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posted on
08/07/2009 8:20:39 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
To: ZULU
We do have insatiable lusts, that’s true.
The balkans fell to us when we took Byzantium.
Yugoslavia was split by the entity that is gobbling up the pieces. The EU does not like large voting blocks.
People with insatiable lusts are winners. They take what they want. We take what we want.
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posted on
08/07/2009 8:52:44 AM PDT
by
a_Turk
(Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
To: marshmallow
Is this the same “moderate” Turkey that people speak of?
In the end the Islamic world is going to unite against non-Muslims.
To: a_Turk
I see. I agree.
And I think I explained quite clearly what I want in my last message.
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posted on
08/07/2009 12:09:22 PM PDT
by
ZULU
(God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
To: a_Turk; ZULU
I see that after years of pretending and hiding aturk is finally coming out of his islamist closet.
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posted on
08/07/2009 12:12:59 PM PDT
by
wtc911
("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
To: wtc911; ZULU; a_Turk
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
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