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UFO climb in Lakes is out-of-this-world trip
News & Star ^ | August 26, 2009 | Meg Jorsh

Posted on 08/29/2009 8:14:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Members of the Aetherius Society from as far afield as Australia and Ghana joined the pilgrimage to the Old Man of Coniston.

They believe the mountain is one of 19 across the world which have been “charged” with spiritual energy by extra-terrestrials from Venus and Mars.

Members of the society say their founder, George King, was able to contact religious figure heads – including Jesus, Buddha and Krishna – who they believe to be aliens. He transmitted the energy from their messages of peace to the mountains in the 1950s.

Society member David Trimble, 70, who was among those who joined the trek, hailed the event as a great success, in spite of difficult weather conditions.

He said: “It was absolutely fantastic. We divided into three prayer teams – one at the bottom, one two thirds of the way up and one right at the top. We prayed for world peace and sent energy out to all the trouble spots of the world including Iraq, Iran and the Sudan.”

According to society members, the 2,635ft Old Man was “charged” by Dr King in December 1958. Since then, it has been a place of biannual pilgrimage for society members, who hope to use the energy to alleviate world suffering.

Mr Trimble, who recently moved from Dalston to Barnsley, added: “These alien beings are trying to help mankind and, in terms of the mountains, we can generate an enormous amount of power. We’ve literally been able to move mountains and stop wars.”

The pilgrimage was led by Mervyn Smith, a former Coniston resident who now lives in London and has climbed the fell more than 500 times before.

At the same time, similar meetings were held at other “charged” mountains around the world.


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To: B-Chan

Only if one majors in minors and minors in majors vs

majoring in majors and minoring in minors.

Such errors are usually a result of a sub-culture that never corrects itself on various ‘-isms’ that take hold in that group.

However, I’m familiar with the phenomenon of finding all manner of excuse to avoid fair-mindedly considering truth or even ‘mere’ evidence.

If Holy Spirit does not confirm anything from Dr Blue, then by all means, ignore him.

Did you notice the RC’s around the 1500’s teaching such things? I thought that was humorous. I’d forgotten about that.


61 posted on 08/29/2009 10:38:41 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

Also, the whole counsel of Scripture is great for checking out what anyone says . . .

even The Pope or the magicsterical.


62 posted on 08/29/2009 10:39:22 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

No.

THAT assertion

is 100% fiction.


63 posted on 08/30/2009 3:43:59 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Zero Sum

Hmmmmmmm.

Thanks.


64 posted on 08/30/2009 3:44:37 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan
That authority is the Catholic Church. It was given this power directly by the Lord, who granted St. Peter the “Office of the Keys”. The Church, built upon the Rock of St. Peter, is the only authority I trust to tell me what Scripture means and how it applies to me.

Is this an interpretation?

65 posted on 08/30/2009 3:49:32 AM PDT by marbren
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To: B-Chan

The role of Israel is key.


66 posted on 08/30/2009 3:54:59 AM PDT by marbren
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To: B-Chan

I feel the Catholic Church does a wonderful job of playing by it’s rules. Most protestant churches are very quick to throw out their constitutions. In your case I wouldn’t advise that you leave the church just open your mind to the possibilities and trust Our Lord Jesus Christ to reveal the truth. Teddy did not leave the church and the Priests homily yesterday was beautiful. He was for abortion however, I doubt you would support abortion. To be a Catholic today does not require one to be in lock step with the Pope.. My two favorite current Christian examples are Mother Theresa and Pope John Paul II.


67 posted on 08/30/2009 4:20:53 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Quix

Very gracious of you, and thanks. I will read what you sent.


68 posted on 08/30/2009 6:26:57 AM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: B-Chan
Well with all due respect some of us consider Catholicism a cult and to consider it your “authority” is exactly the problem. The Bible doesn't need any one to explain it if you have faith in the power of the Holy Spirit.
69 posted on 08/30/2009 6:33:12 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Quix; B-Chan

Wow Quix! Great stuff. Thanks a ton! I love to print off all of your source material so thanks even to
B-Chan. :o)

You scoffers...you spend so much time arguing the point instead of just shrugging your shoulders and saying “we’ll see”. Interesting.


70 posted on 08/30/2009 6:50:14 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Zero Sum

*raises hand*

Can I trade my red pill for a blue one?

Haha...Don’t exactly know what you mean but I’ll ask my kind Teacher’s Aid once she’s done reading “Alien Probe Found In Uranus”. Until then I’ll enjoy my bowl of Cap’n Crunch and drawing with crayons.


71 posted on 08/30/2009 7:42:53 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Quix; jackv; B-Chan; Alex Murphy; Lee N. Field
 It has been demonstrably proven to you that it was not invented by Darby.  

   As usual, you are mistaken on this matter. The historical evidence is that the pretrib rapture doctrine was not publically taught by any pastor-teacher to any portion of the Church prior to Darby around 1830. By all accounts Darby is considered the father of this errant view. 

   Prior to Darby the Church taught that the so-called "rapture" of 1 Thess. 4 was the Second Coming. In fact this is still the teaching of the vast majority of the Christian Church.

   But the larger problem for pretribbers is that this notion is not taught in the Bible.  Contrary to what someone else wrote you have never given evidence from the Bible in support of this error.

72 posted on 08/30/2009 8:57:33 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: esquirette

Thanks for your kind reply.

The long one I posted the text of is probably the best I could quickly locate. Prayerfully ponder with Scripture in hand, is my suggestion.


73 posted on 08/30/2009 9:03:15 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: jackv

Thanks for your kind words.

I hope folks are stocking up on printer ink and paper.

When the net goes . . . we’ll still have some capacity to get word out for a little while.


74 posted on 08/30/2009 9:04:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

It's certainly an abiding joy
that so many FREEPERS assure me privately
that such idiotic assertions are exceedingly transparent.

75 posted on 08/30/2009 9:07:08 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy
“These alien beings are trying to help mankind and, in terms of the mountains, we can generate an enormous amount of power.

Interesting, how the mountain as domain of divinity theme shows up again.

We’ve literally been able to move mountains and stop wars.”

The first, at least, is a testable assertion.

Show us that mountain.

76 posted on 08/30/2009 10:39:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Quix
red pill, blue pill

But I’ve never understood what that’s all about. Could you please enlighten me?

Nye Kulturny!

77 posted on 08/30/2009 11:20:55 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: jackv
The Bible doesn't need any one to explain it if you have faith in the power of the Holy Spirit.

But that doesn't make sense. Christians interpret the same verse and get different results all the time. When Christians disagree on doctrine, who's to say which Christian is right?

Because, after all, we can't all be right. In the end, there is only one truth, and one person or authority with the final say-so on what Scripture means.

This is true for Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, and all the rest. For example, in the Baptist church, the pastor of each individual congregation gets the final say. If you are a member of a given congregation and you start teaching that the Scripture means something besides what the pastor says it means, sooner or later you're going to be asked to stop teaching or leave. In other words, you are excommunicated. And it's the same all over: at the Potter's House, T.D. Jakes has the final say on what Scripture is really saying. He is the "pope" of the Potter's House. At Oral Roberts University, the "pope" is Oral Roberts (or Richard Roberts, or Billy Joe Daugherty, or whoever's running the show up in Tulsa these days). In other words, the pastor of each non-Catholic congregation is a "papacy of one" -- a pope unto himself.

And what happens to those who are asked to leave a congregation, or who leave because their own personal "Holy Spirit-inspired" interpretation of Scripture does not agree with their pastor's "Holy Spirit-inspired" interpretation? They often form a new church based upon their interpretation.

And when one of their flock disagrees...?

You see my point: that every Christian has a "pope", even if it's "Pope Me". And since every Christian has a "pope", who's to say which "pope" is teaching the real truth?

I asked myself that question several years ago, and the answer I finally came up with is "the one with the most direct connection to the Lord and His Apostles" -- that is, the Pope of the Catholic Church. Before there were any other Christian denominations or churches, before the Holy Bible even existed, the popes were there, passing on the truth of the Christian faith. St. Peter was first, and before he was matryred he passed on to St. Linus the things the Lord taught him, and made him his successor. The successor of St. Linus came next; then his successor; then all the subsequent Bishops of Rome who passed that same teaching down through the millennia to the present pope, Benedict XVI. This unbroken chain of teachers connects me with the Lord Himself; if they don't have the truth, I figure nobody does.

Anyway, that's the conclusion at which I arrived. I'm not here to bring you back to the Catholic Church, but I would ask you to at least consider what I've said. If you want to know more, please ask me (or some other Catholic FReeper), and we'll do our best to find the answers you're looking for.

78 posted on 08/30/2009 11:24:40 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Yep. You’re right. The rapture thing is 100% pure American science fiction.


79 posted on 08/30/2009 1:44:56 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: Quix; jackv; B-Chan; Alex Murphy; Lee N. Field
It's certainly an abiding joy that so many FREEPERS assure me privately that such idiotic assertions are exceedingly transparent.

Folks do and say lots of odd things in secret.

The historic record, which have never been able to refute, is that JN Daby is the father of dispensationalism and the pretrib rapture error. It is not taught in the Bible and, so, it is denied by the majority of the Christian Church.

It is evident from your response(s) that your emperor has no clothes.


80 posted on 08/30/2009 1:53:01 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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