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UFO climb in Lakes is out-of-this-world trip
News & Star ^ | August 26, 2009 | Meg Jorsh

Posted on 08/29/2009 8:14:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Members of the Aetherius Society from as far afield as Australia and Ghana joined the pilgrimage to the Old Man of Coniston.

They believe the mountain is one of 19 across the world which have been “charged” with spiritual energy by extra-terrestrials from Venus and Mars.

Members of the society say their founder, George King, was able to contact religious figure heads – including Jesus, Buddha and Krishna – who they believe to be aliens. He transmitted the energy from their messages of peace to the mountains in the 1950s.

Society member David Trimble, 70, who was among those who joined the trek, hailed the event as a great success, in spite of difficult weather conditions.

He said: “It was absolutely fantastic. We divided into three prayer teams – one at the bottom, one two thirds of the way up and one right at the top. We prayed for world peace and sent energy out to all the trouble spots of the world including Iraq, Iran and the Sudan.”

According to society members, the 2,635ft Old Man was “charged” by Dr King in December 1958. Since then, it has been a place of biannual pilgrimage for society members, who hope to use the energy to alleviate world suffering.

Mr Trimble, who recently moved from Dalston to Barnsley, added: “These alien beings are trying to help mankind and, in terms of the mountains, we can generate an enormous amount of power. We’ve literally been able to move mountains and stop wars.”

The pilgrimage was led by Mervyn Smith, a former Coniston resident who now lives in London and has climbed the fell more than 500 times before.

At the same time, similar meetings were held at other “charged” mountains around the world.


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Members of the society say their founder, George King, was able to contact religious figure heads – including Jesus, Buddha and Krishna – who they believe to be aliens. He transmitted the energy from their messages of peace to the mountains in the 1950s....

....Mr Trimble, who recently moved from Dalston to Barnsley, added: “These alien beings are trying to help mankind and, in terms of the mountains, we can generate an enormous amount of power. We’ve literally been able to move mountains and stop wars.”

1 posted on 08/29/2009 8:14:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

This is just to rich. ROTFLMAO


2 posted on 08/29/2009 8:25:51 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: Quix

Sounds like your kind of story *ping*...


3 posted on 08/29/2009 8:26:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Alex Murphy

You know...I thought I saw an energy bolt flashing across the sky toward Iraq.

Or was that gas from the beans and weenies?


4 posted on 08/29/2009 8:26:18 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Alex Murphy

Ah the trouble with Trimble....get the man a FR account!! Haha...but seriously Alex, now you,ve done it! Our aluminum hat wearing Freepers who believe in the phenomenon of Alien Rectal Probes just spilled their bowl of Cap’n Crunch all over their lap as they excitedly shout for their mother’s to come take a look see as they explain that they are not crazy..that after all those years of menial employment, failed relationships, and in & out - patient psychotherapy that the cause of all their woes was not harsh toilet training, or an Ogre father figure but was, as they maintained all along, an intimate encounter against their will with E.T. one sultry summer night in some back woods..


5 posted on 08/29/2009 8:28:00 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Just wow.


6 posted on 08/29/2009 8:29:25 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: TheZMan

bttt


7 posted on 08/29/2009 8:29:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: EAGLE7
...but seriously Alex, now you,ve done it! Our aluminum hat wearing Freepers who believe in the phenomenon of Alien Rectal Probes just spilled their bowl of Cap’n Crunch all over their lap as they excitedly shout for their mother’s to come take a look see as they explain that they are not crazy...

More evolution necessary [Raelians march topless and say ancient aliens were "confused for God"]

8 posted on 08/29/2009 8:33:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: Alex Murphy

9 posted on 08/29/2009 8:43:58 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: All
Are these “charged” mountains in any way related to the “vortexes”, like the one in Sedona, AZ?
10 posted on 08/29/2009 8:44:21 AM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks. Will check it out.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 8:47:45 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Gamecock; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; AnimalLover; ...

“ET’s”/ fallen angels/ nephilium have been associated with the NEW AGE MOVEMENT from the beginning.

And, there’s plenty of reports that the NEW AGE MOVEMENT is merely a more than usual level of flaky branch of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

However, it’s all designed to coalesce, evidently, into the one world religion of the AntiChrist and to deceive all but the very elect and almost them—perhaps if they are not walking close to God, spiritually covered in Christ’s Blood, led by His Spirit.

I expect to see groups as this article describes assisted by UFO’s their technologies etc. to stage counterfeit miracles as Scripture indicates will become common in the END TIMES and certainly in the GREAT TRIBULATION.

Certainly groups of such ilk have claimed for decades that great UFO motherships will come and take the troublesome EVANGELICAL and other serious Christians off the earth to a distant planet for ‘re-education.’ THat currently it’s the Christians—particularly those who believe in Christ’s soon return—who are holding the earth back from progressing into the . . . drum roll . . . NEW AGE.

Some Christian researchers believe that’s going to be the ANTICHRIST’s explanation for the disappearance of the RAPTURED Christians.

It’s clear that such groups will be cheering the one world religion on quite in lock-step with the “ET’s” explanations for having created mankind all the religious figures of the past etc. etc. etc. for social engineering purposes.

Just imagine . . . OThuga or his to follow chief puppeteer pulling his strings . . . standing on a stage . . . surrounded by ‘leading ET’s’ exhorting the world’s citizens on the glories of the NEW HOPE OF THE NEW AGE IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER OF ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT AND THE RELIGIOUS HARMONY OF ONE WORLD RELIGION.

What if the carefully prepared . . . perhaps cloned? Mooselymb Mahdi; a carefully prepared, chosen, conditioned, etc. new Roman Catholic Pope [perhaps after a carefully staged exit of the current Pope], The Dahli Lama and the leading Hindu officials were all on the same stage cheering the new World Leader and the new world religion.

How many folks around the world, what percentage, do you think would go . . . OH, YEAH! WONDERFUL!

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

How grand. /sar to the max


.

UFO “B” LIST PING;

END TIMES “A” LIST PING.


12 posted on 08/29/2009 9:04:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: EAGLE7

Perhaps if you asked the kind teacher’s aid,

she’d be happy to trade your red crayon for a blue and a green one.

Then you could draw a calmer pretty picture.

Sounds like your reality testing module needs replaced . . . or at the minimum, a major overhaul.


13 posted on 08/29/2009 9:06:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

The whole rapture thing is pure 19th-Century American hokum.

That being said, I think the solution to the mystery of UFOs will be something more shocking than we can imagine.


14 posted on 08/29/2009 9:09:11 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Alex Murphy
[Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were all space aliens]

;0)

15 posted on 08/29/2009 9:14:44 AM PDT by paulycy
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To: az_gila; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; aragorn; auggy; autumnraine; backhoe; basil; ...

I can’t answer that definitively. I think they’d say that MT Hood was more or less the same.

Certainly Christian researchers would consider all such to be . . . essentially . . . habitations of nests of demons and demonic activity.

Certainly UFO abductions—at least by the critters—have been . . . authorized . . . as it were . . . by the humans entering into demonic occult activity.

Guy Malone at

http://www.ancientofdays.net

has a colleague that recently reported on extensive research of 300 abduction cases wherein the abductions were prevented or stopped in the middle of happening by spiritual warfare using Jesus’ Name and/or spiritual warfare applying His Blood spiritually.

In EVERY case that Guy and staff have investigated of alien/UFO abductions, there was Scripturally forbidden occult activity involved in the person’s life—in some cases, in the parents’ lives where very young children were involved.

Guy has trained folks in authentic Christian spiritual warfare who were then able to halt abductions that had been going on for generations in their family.

What some folks fail to realize who judge and mock such reports . . . is that they are opening themselves up to some horrendous reaping from the hostile, judgmental mocking they have sown. SCRIPTURE ITSELF IS EXCEEDINGLY CLEAR about that sort of thing.


16 posted on 08/29/2009 9:15:30 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 08/29/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

Gee.. well thanks for the advice...Perhaps after you clean up your bowl of Cap’n Crunch, you can contact your alien buddies and they can, as you put it, replace or overhaul my “reality testing module.”


18 posted on 08/29/2009 9:17:54 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: B-Chan

Your assertion has been disproven hereon multiple times.

Very clear documentation can be found many hundreds of years back and some researchers convincingly trace it back to the first century church.

Yet again, you are WRONG.


What are your speculations about the UFO phenomena, then?

I assure you it will be shocking enough that the Scriptural prophecy about men’s hearts failing them for fear will come true many thousands of times shortly after disclosure leaps on the world stage dramatically and overtly.


19 posted on 08/29/2009 9:17:57 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: EAGLE7

Naw.

I don’t think they’d comply.

Some folks they consider ‘useless eaters’ and cart them off for the food slurry vats that some humans have seen human body parts floating in . . .


20 posted on 08/29/2009 9:19:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Now you’re speaking their language


21 posted on 08/29/2009 9:23:23 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Silliness not a ping.


22 posted on 08/29/2009 9:28:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Given your screen name . . . are you older than my 62 years?

If you are, perhaps . . . perhaps

you’d be willing to do a thought experiment just for my curiosity.

PRETEND as hard as it might be . . . just pretend

that the usual things I say in summary about the UFO phenomena and the END TIMES

is at least 80% true.

What would you expect to be your responses for such truths to be outted on CNN day after day amidst great traumatic world events such as WWIII, major terrorists bombings and major quakes?


23 posted on 08/29/2009 9:52:44 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Very clear documentation can be found many hundreds of years back and some researchers convincingly trace it back to the first century church.

Kindly post the evidence by which "some researchers" trace the rapture/tribulation doctrine (aka Dispensationalism) back to the first century church.

The truth is that over two millennia of Christian history neither the Catholic nor the Orthodox Church has ever taught about any "rapture". It is simply not part of the traditional Christian faith.

And it's not just us Mary-worshippers: Martin Luther never heard of it. Calvin, Zwingli, and Henry VIII never heard of it. John Wesley might have heard of it, but he never taught it. So where did this strange doctrine come from?

it came from the USA by way of John Nelson Darby, a strident anti-Catholic Irish Anglican preacher and a renegade member of the Plymouth Brethren.

The Rapture seems to have been invented by a British religious figure named John Nelson Darby (1800-1882). He was ordained in the Church of Ireland and worked there to convert Catholics away from their folly. He was extremely pessimistic about what he saw as the state of the world and the state of the Church. He eventually left it, joining a dissident group called the Plymouth Brethren of which he soon became a prominent leader.

About 1830, he began teaching that Jesus’ coming at the end of time would be preceded by a “rapture of the saints.” Some members of his own Brethren community objected that this was not biblically founded, but Darby dismissed any criticism. It had, he claimed, been revealed to him by God.

[...]

[S]cholars have suggested several possible influences on his Rapture views. In 1830, in Port Glasgow, Scotland, a 15-year-old girl, Margaret MacDonald, a follower of a charismatic Scottish preacher, Edward Irving, attended a healing service at which she saw a vision of a two-stage return of Christ. Darby adopted and expanded her vision.

Another suggestion traces the influence to a Jesuit priest, Manuel Lacunza (1731-1801), who was born in Chile but came to Italy in 1767 where he would spend the rest of his life. Posing as a converted Jew (under the pseudonym Juan Josafat Ben Ezra), he wrote, in Spanish, a large apocalyptic work entitled The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty. The book appeared first in 1811, 10 years after his death. In 1827, it was translated into English by none other than Edward Irving, an acquaintance of and possible influence on Darby. Given Darby’s hatred of Catholics, this possible influence adds an ironic touch! Source

So who does teach the Rapture? Not mainstream Christians. The Catholics and Greek Orthodox don't, as I said. But the Episcopals and Anglicans don't, either. The Lutherans don't. The Methodists and Presbyterians don't. Even most Baptists (those in union with Nashville) don't. The only denoms that push the whole Rapture thing are the Big Evangelicals (e.g the Assemblies of God), the 'non-denominational" Evangelical superchurches, and outfits like Ruckman and Bob Jones.

So, with all due respect, I think I'll stick with the belief in the Second Coming as taught by our Lord, the Catholic Church, and the entire Christian faith up until the 19th Century. As entertaining as the whole "last days" thing is (I have a huge collection of Rapture/Trib propaganda, btw), it ain't the Truth. If I want to read 19th Century science fiction I'll stick with Jules Verne.

24 posted on 08/29/2009 10:15:05 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

Naw.

It’s been posted before hereon. That’s enough.

I didn’t realize that

ya’ll’s rubber Bibles didn’t include Thessalonians.


25 posted on 08/29/2009 10:41:53 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I already withdrew my ping.

I believe that there have been many instances in history when we thought we had identified the Beloved of the Morningstar and that we were in the end times. But Jesus will come like a thief in the night, and no man knows the time.

I will be 63 in December, and with my family history, I’m living on borrowed time.


26 posted on 08/29/2009 12:15:44 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: B-Chan

I was a Baptist when I first heard the end times rapture business and it brought me to the Lord. I think you’d be surprised how many do teach it to some extent. We had a wonderful teaching on it for a whole SS semester. I sincerely hope you will be in the rapture and not sitting on the ground wondering what happened.


27 posted on 08/29/2009 12:33:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Alex Murphy

28 posted on 08/29/2009 1:32:48 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: B-Chan

So is the meeting Him in the air Hokum tto?


29 posted on 08/29/2009 3:08:46 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953

No.

But the idea that the Lord is going to return, stop halfway down, go back up, and then come all he way down seven years later is pure baloney. There is not going to be a Coming 2.5 or 3.0 — there’s just going to be the same Second Coming we’ve been waiting for all these years.


30 posted on 08/29/2009 3:42:35 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Petronski

Just another group of protestants making up a theology to suit themselves.


31 posted on 08/29/2009 3:46:48 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: B-Chan

“Kindly post the evidence by which “some researchers” trace the rapture/tribulation doctrine...”

Oh boy..you are in way over your head. Quix can site backwards and forward where the “calling up” is covered in the Bible. Now if you choose to poo-poo it and explain it all away there’s not much one can say. We will just consider you one of the end times “scoffers.
It is there clearly (although rapture is not the term used).
The Great Mystery, Blessed Hope, Called Up in the twinkling of an eye...it’s all there.


32 posted on 08/29/2009 4:53:00 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Quix; EAGLE7
Perhaps if you asked the kind teacher’s aid,

she’d be happy to trade your red crayon for a blue and a green one.

*raises hand*

Can I trade my red pill for a blue one?

33 posted on 08/29/2009 5:11:44 PM PDT by Zero Sum
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To: jackv

Merely quoting Scripture is not enough to convince me. A given passage of Scripture can be interpreted any way the reader likes, which is why there are so many denominations out there. Each denomination, of course, claims that it and it alone has the ability to correctly interpret Scripture “by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit”. No, I need an authority to explain to me what a given passage of Scripture means, and its place in the entire body of Christian teaching.

That authority is the Catholic Church. It was given this power directly by the Lord, who granted St. Peter the “Office of the Keys”. The Church, built upon the Rock of St. Peter, is the only authority I trust to tell me what Scripture means and how it applies to me.

Now, I know that many people do not accept the authority of the Church to do this — and that’s okay. It’s a shame, but I’m not here to sell anyone on the Catholic Church (that’s the Holy Spirit’s gig). However, since I myself have come to accept the teaching authority of the Church, any attempt to interpret Scripture that contradicts the two thousand years of Christian doctrine passed down by the Church is not going to convince me.

And neither the Catholic Church nor any of the Orthodox churches have ever taught that our Lord will appear in a “Coming 2.5” to take away the Christians, go back to Heaven, wait around for seven Earth years, then return again (Coming 3.0) to finish the story. None of the mainstream Protestant churches teach it, either — not the Lutherans, not the Calvinists, not the Methodists, Episcopalians, or Congregationalists. Most of the Baptist churches in America don’t teach it either. The only Christian groups who teach the rapture thing are ones that began in relatively recent years (i.e. since AD 1800). And, frankly, I’m not ready to ditch two millennia of Christian teaching on the say so of “theological n00bz”.

But, as a collector of End Times propaganda, I’m always up for a look at new material, the foamier the better. So bring it on. I like Quix, but more for the UFO stuff.


34 posted on 08/29/2009 5:54:03 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

Amen to that He does no U-turns. Post trib pre wrath.


35 posted on 08/29/2009 7:14:35 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: guitarplayer1953

SCRIPTURE DECLARES

THAT JESUS IS

COMING

FOR THOSE

WHO

ARE LOOKING FOR HIS APPEARING.

Perhaps those who aren’t, won’t see Him come . . . won’t rise to meet Him in the air.


36 posted on 08/29/2009 7:41:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

So impressive of you to tell The Lord God Almighty what

He meant.

My own position is that I dont’ think anyone has it all figured out. However, The Scriptural prophecies related to such will come true quite literally to the letter.


37 posted on 08/29/2009 7:43:19 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: big'ol_freeper

That assertion is utter balderdash.


38 posted on 08/29/2009 7:43:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: jackv

Thanks for your kind post.


39 posted on 08/29/2009 7:44:31 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Zero Sum

Perhaps.

But I’ve never understood what that’s all about. Could you please enlighten me?

Psychoactive drugs or what? I’ve been away from that sort of counseling collaboration for quite some time.


40 posted on 08/29/2009 7:45:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

Holy Spirit has done quite well at leading folks into all truth just as Christ said He would.

Evidently Holy Spirit disagrees with the RC magicsterical about having a political bureaucracy OK

Holy Spirit’s leading and teachings.


41 posted on 08/29/2009 7:47:51 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

Glad the UFO stuff is entertaining to you.


42 posted on 08/29/2009 7:48:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Why should I believe your interpretation of the Scriptures?


43 posted on 08/29/2009 8:15:37 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

Only if Holy Spirit confirms them to you.

Otherwise, I’d rather you were at least somewhat tentative, if not skeptical.

If you are not accustomed to having Holy Spirit confirm things or give you a check in your spirit about things . . .

that’s a whole ‘nother order of problem.


44 posted on 08/29/2009 8:25:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
But I’ve never understood what that’s all about. Could you please enlighten me?

Movie allusion.

Psychoactive drugs or what?

Well, I certainly wouldn't recommend taking pills from a stranger...


45 posted on 08/29/2009 8:28:42 PM PDT by Zero Sum
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To: jackv; B-Chan
Oh boy..you are in way over your head. ... Now if you choose to poo-poo it and explain it all away there’s not much one can say. We will just consider you one of the end times “scoffers.

The pretribulation, separate-from-the-Second Coming rapture of futurist dispensationalism is not found anywhere in the Bible. It was invented less than 200 years ago by some disgruntled Plymouth Brethren under the leadership of John Nelson Darby in England.

46 posted on 08/29/2009 8:35:46 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: Alex Murphy

I love these threads ... entertainment one usually can only hope for most days ...


47 posted on 08/29/2009 8:36:19 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Zero Sum

So

I think I saw the movie . . . but I have no memory of what the difference was between the red and the blue pill.

What was it?


48 posted on 08/29/2009 8:47:45 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; autumnraine; ...

No it was NOT.

It has been demonstrably proven to you that it was not invented by Darby.

It has been document many hundreds of years before that.

You have responded as having read those proofs.

You still seem determined to post contrary to the historically documented proof otherwise.

It’s most puzzling that anyone purporting to be Christian and to speak truth would be so seemingly determined to post documented historical falsehoods.

. . . unless, perhaps . . .

the goal is to illustrate their use of

their

—RUBBER HISTORY as well as their

—RUBBER BIBLE and their

—RUBBER DICTIONARY and their

—RUBBER LOGIC text.

Perhaps someone from the ping list would be willing to respond with the proofs again.

Obviously not to try and influence seemingly willful blindness but in behalf of the lurkers.


49 posted on 08/29/2009 8:54:20 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“It has been document many hundreds of years before that.”

I have read of Darby also and am wondering if you could give some documentation about the pre-mil dispensational view having been around for hundreds of years. My understanding is that the historical church has been preterist or at least semi.

Not arguing, just seeking a citation for what you assert.

Thanks.


50 posted on 08/29/2009 9:00:44 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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