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The Bishop's Ax Falls on Obama. And on the Vatican Curia (bombshell article)
Express Online ^ | October 10, 2009 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 10/11/2009 1:30:02 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/11/2009 1:30:03 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/11/2009 1:30:58 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: cpforlife.org

FYI


3 posted on 10/11/2009 1:33:06 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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So much for any thought that he might replace the egregious dissident Mahony in Los Angeles in a few years.


4 posted on 10/11/2009 1:47:06 PM PDT by rogator
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Mahony replacement would be one of the defining moments of BXVI’s papacy.


5 posted on 10/11/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by Steelfish
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"[The hatchet of the redskin cardinal – Charles J. Chaput against Notre Dame and the illustrious cardinal seduced by the pro-abortion Obama]."

LOL! There is NO American publication that could get away with THAT title!

6 posted on 10/11/2009 1:55:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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**About 80 of the Catholic bishops of the United States are in open disagreement with him on crucial questions, in primis the defense of life. Among these is Cardinal Francis George, president of the bishops’ conference and archbishop of Chicago, Obama’s city.**

Way to go, Cardinal George!


7 posted on 10/11/2009 2:03:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It’s good to know that the American Bishops are ‘schooling’ the Curia about Obama.


8 posted on 10/11/2009 2:05:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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9 posted on 10/11/2009 2:06:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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LOL! I’m laughing at your word, “schooling” — laughing with you, not at you!


10 posted on 10/11/2009 2:09:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rogator
So much for any thought that he might replace the egregious dissident Mahony in Los Angeles in a few years.

Mahony is one of the progressive bishops that will soon retire; mine is another. For many years I wondered why the pope did not take action. I heard through the grapevine that the Vatican maintained a very thick dossier on my bishop ... and continued to ponder why nothing was done. Then I read the following article.

Why Doesn't the Pope Do Something about "Bad" Bishops?

11 posted on 10/11/2009 2:13:47 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Oh, you didn’t mean it literally. Oh well.


12 posted on 10/11/2009 3:04:32 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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I also read the article, but I don’t buy the good padre’s argument.
In no way am I obligated to follow and support my bishop when he blatantly violates Church Law, Tradition, and Teaching.
Conversely the Pope under Church Law has the power to fire bad bishops, and has done so in the past. Jacques Gaillot was fired as diocesan bishop in 1995. This firing was accomplished by transferring him to the non-existing see of Parthenia.
No good reason why Mahony and others, who IMO aid and abet their real boss as he prowls about the world seeking the ruin of souls, could not be dealt with in like manner.


13 posted on 10/11/2009 3:25:13 PM PDT by rogator
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To: SLB
Thanks for the FYI

Archbisbop Chaput is awesome. I wish we had more like him.

14 posted on 10/11/2009 6:07:41 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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I listened to Archbishop Chaput talking about this in the sacristy at the Cathedral today following the Red Mass. He said he does indeed have an axe and is going to start carrying it. I asked him if he was sure it wasn’t a tomahawk and he laughed heartily.


15 posted on 10/11/2009 6:29:16 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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Words certainly à propos for President Obama, but the harsher cut is back at Cardinal Cottier.

16 posted on 10/11/2009 6:54:16 PM PDT by delacoert
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He said he does indeed have an axe and is going to start carrying it. I asked him if he was sure it wasn’t a tomahawk and he laughed heartily.

You are most blessed to have Chaput as your bishop. The next time you see him, tell him this is what he has earned in the blogosphere.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 5:40:21 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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So much for any thought that he might replace the egregious dissident Mahony in Los Angeles in a few years.

As a Denverite, this is fine by me. I do not want Archbishop Chaput to leave Denver.

I'm wondering if Bishop of Sacramento Jamie Soto is a possible +Mahoney replacement.

18 posted on 10/12/2009 1:53:46 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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I can’t blame you a bit.
The sad thing is that the LA Archdiocese’s influence extends over the entire west and beyond.
We need an authentic Catholic as archbishop in that see.


19 posted on 10/12/2009 2:02:30 PM PDT by rogator
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Soto just got installed here in Sacramento. I don't know much about him, however, he cannot be all bad. In the heat of the gay marriage repeal campaign he got invited to some kind of gay-friendly quasi-Catholic group, and laid down the law for them very nicely. Apparently, him being Hispanic he is presumed to be liberal, and maybe on the economic issues he is, but that speech was very solid catechism. The gay conference regretted they invited him.

Bishop Soto’s defense of Church teaching at gay ministry conference draws attendees’ ire

However, Soto didn't speak out on the Notre Dame scandal.

Surely anyone will be an improvement in LA.

20 posted on 10/12/2009 4:05:36 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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