Posted on 10/25/2009 1:21:48 PM PDT by stripes1776
THE Anglican Archbishop of Perth has cautioned disgruntled Anglicans not to join the Catholic Church in anger and haste.
Rogert Herft said the Vatican's offer to receive Anglicans would provide a "helpful way for those who wished to join the Roman Catholic Church to do so on similar terms to many Roman Catholics".
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Not "similar." Identical is the word. There's only one Church, and I think many Anglicans, even conservative ones, actually will have a problem with this. They're used to a situation where you could pick and choose - some people believed in Transubstantiation and the Real Presence and some people didn't, but it was all groovy - but they're coming into one where either you believe it or...you're not part of the show.
BXVI has done an incredible thing, because Anglicans are actually being confronted individually on what they believe. And this is actually the only way for a group (a "tradition," as the Vatican called them) to come in. Individually after a decision to accept the Faith.
Yes do not be angry at the poofters who insist that sodomy is acceptable, do not be angry with those who elevated women to the episcopacy, ignore the Primate’s embrace of paganism. Be joyful that you may Come Home to Rome.
In practice, it might ruffle some feathers.
By the way, there's a good article here about how the professional ecumenists and liberal Catholic bishops opposed the welcome-home-Anglicans idea, and how our dear B-16 did an end-run around them. Good to see.
Does it work both ways? If a dissatisfied Catholic were to show up at an Anglican church in Perth and say he wanted to join, would he be told “don’t be hasty about this”?
There are Anglo-Catholics who will never accept the idea of Papal Supremacy. Many other Anglo-Catholics would indeed accept this. But what they will not give up is their liturgy in a high registry of English and married priests. It seems that the Vatican will allow them to keep both.
some people believed in Transubstantiation and the Real Presence and some people didn't
Well, I know Roman Catholics who go to communion and don't believe in the Real Presence. There's nobody at the rail (oh, Roman Catholics have gotten rid of the rails, but most Anglican churches still have one and take communion kneeling in two species) asking if you believe in the real presence, in either a Catholic or Anglican church.
BXVI has done an incredible thing, because Anglicans are actually being confronted individually on what they believe.
I would agree that BXVI has done an incredible thing. But this isn't going to change anyone's belief in the Anglican Churches. Those Anglo-Catholics who already accept the RC catechism will probably convert in corporate bodies. There were simply waiting for a guarantee that they can keep their beautiful and reverent liturgy in a high register of English, and allow their priests to be married. There are lots of Eastern rite churches in the Catholic Church. They use their own liturgy and the priests are married. So the Anglicans will get something similar no matter what you call it.
By the way, there's a good article... Good to see.
Thanks, I will check out the article.
Probably not, but the issue here is not individual conversions. With these new canon law authorizing personal ordinariates, there will be entire parishes converting as a corporate body. The established Anglican churches have lost a lot of people in the last 40 years. Some of these have been parishes. The Episcopal Church has lost a couple of entire dioceses in the past couple of years. I think that sort of move is what the established church in Australia is worried about.
If the established churches want to keep their Anglo-Catholics parishes, they will now have to give them more consideration.
Hmmm. I think the Anglicans will come to Rome anyway.
Anger and haste???? After years of getting the pro-gay, same-sex marraige, gay clergy, liberal agenda rammed down their throats, the orthodox-conservative segments have decided that the “mother church” is indeed the only option left.
...it’s time to come home. :)
LOL. Well, let's hope it's different. We will have to wait for the details.
Of course they did the last thing the liberals want is for the Conservative part of the RCC to grow. They have worked years trying to allow Satan a foothold in the church they will be d@med if it is slammed on him now! Someone in another topic asked if we Catholic could exchanged our liberals for their Conservatives and that isn’t a half bad idea!
Actually, I agree with this.
I am a convert myself, and you must convert because you feel that you are fulfilled as a Christian in the Catholic church. It is not enough to simply be ‘anti-anglican’. Haste, I disagree. Remember the story of the man who wanted to be baptised immediately when he found out about Christ. That is how we are supposed to react, we must not dally and chance being lost forever.
Yes, be angry at the Anglican church for rejecting Christ and causing souls to be lost, but out of the anger must come love, love for Papa Benedict, love for Christ, and love for his Church.
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