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To: Colofornian
3) It negates Hebrews 9:27 “For it is appointed for man to die once, and then the judgement” — thereby, creating a false sense of security for earthly man: “Oh, I can repent AFTER I die”

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I don’t think they try to negate anything. Catholics teach that if they hadn’t baptized me when I was born and then I died before baptism that I would have been condemned to Hell. It makes no difference that it were through no fault of my own.

I don’t believe that, it doesn’t mean that I have a problem with Catholics believing it. It doesn’t effect me no matter what they do.

I have never talked to a Mormon who tried to trick me into joining their church because I could be bad and still go to heaven. They teach just the opposite.

They do teach that it will take a long time to do their research, they say that the reason for the Millennium is so that they can do this research.

I kind of like their idea that everybody will get a fair shot at accepting The Lord Jesus Christ. They actually teach that if everybody doesn’t get this chance then nobody will be able to have the benefit of it.

8 posted on 12/04/2009 1:09:26 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

You seem to know an awful lot about Mormonism, and if I recall, your wife is Mormon.

Why don’t you join? I’s seriously asking....what is the reason you don’t just go ahead and become baptized a member of the LDS Church if it really makes no difference?


12 posted on 12/04/2009 1:21:22 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: JAKraig
I kind of like their idea that everybody will get a fair shot at accepting The Lord Jesus Christ. They actually teach that if everybody doesn’t get this chance then nobody will be able to have the benefit of it.

JAKraig, I just posted this on the "twin thread":

"ALL those who have not had an opportunity of hearing the Gospel, and being administered unto by an inspired man in the flesh, MUST have it hereafter, BEFORE they can be finally judged. (Lds Presidents book on Smith, p. 471)

Joseph Smith said "ALL." Is the Lds church committed to that? All?
That means all pre-Gutenberg people.
That means all "dark ages" people.
That means all primitive and ancient tribal campfire clans.
ALL. Everybody. Mandated by Smith for EVERY spirit!

I then asked how the Mormon church plans to uncover non-existent records of most of these peoples & people groups?
Seances?
Ouija boards?
Magic 8 balls?
Pet rocks like Smith had?
Extensive searches worldwide for more hidden gold plates?
Mass manufacturing of urims & thummims?

Bottom line, this peddling false hope when we're talking about 98-99% of the coveted records of which Mormons seek having been lost, destroyed or never even existed?

So, tell us, JAKraig, how is that "fair" -- to NOT have a chance at accepting a gospel version just because the...
(a) record-keepers either failed in their mission;
(b) or the record-finders failed in their mission;
(c) or, as in most cases, NO SUCH RECORD of your earthly life ever existed on earth!

13 posted on 12/04/2009 1:27:18 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: JAKraig
I have never talked to a Mormon who tried to trick me into joining their church because I could be bad and still go to heaven.

Oh??

Just WHAT are you implying here?

17 posted on 12/04/2009 2:55:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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