Posted on 12/15/2009 11:35:39 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
You remind me of the lawyer hired to defend someone against a lawsuit for damaging a borrowed car: "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, first I will prove that my client never touched this car; then I will prove that this car was already damaged when my client took possession; and finally I will prove that this car was in perfect condition when my client returned it!"
Wow...you are simply wrong—not on religious accounts, but on literary. The most humble and smartest of literary critics, even non-Christian ones, will at least be willing to attest to the internal consistency of the Word and its overall message, considering it consists of 66 books, 40 different authors from very diverse backgrounds, and 3 different languages.
It is the most ingenious piece of literature ever! WHether you think its fiction or not.
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“Now, in spite of all of these different factors we find the Bible to be a consistent, harmonious, perfectly unified account of how God is seeking to reconcile sinners back to Himself through the person of His Son, Jesus Christ. This is an amazing evidence of its divine origin. If youre not convinced, go through your neighborhood and ask just 10 of your neighbors, what their beliefs are on the nature of the universe, the meaning of life, the origin of evil, the way of salvation, etc. and youll immediately see how likely it is to have a variety of contradicting opinions!” ~ Charlie H. Campbell
IMAGINE you get to have YOUR face to face with the Creator that created your very unique being and YOU get to answer for what YOU did through the passage of this flesh age. Will YOU play dumb or will YOU beg for forgiveness?
Can’t disagree with you steve-b, I’ll further qualify your statement.
Indeed, “good design” the order of the orbits for example, and the structure of DNA, yes, is evidence of Intelligent Design. And “bad design” like degenerative mutations and disease is evidence of Intelligent Design gone awry due to the Fall.
At this point, I’m not trying to convince you—only clarifying the position you already disagree with.
The reason there are 'two' differing 'creation' accounts is because they are NOT describing the same 'day' of creation. DNA demonstrates that NO way did all of the Heavenly Father's creation come from only two flesh beings.
NOW why do the evolutionists not focus on this bit of literal scientific data? WHY do they hide behind the argument of age of the physical planet earth? What are they 'hiding' like those global warming scientists tried to hide data?
What’s to answer when his maker already knew what he did, and actually knew he was going to do it?
Great test for ID, analyze the Bible.
Rhetoric does not refute data and science.
That sure isn't what I was taught, what my children were taught and what my grandchildren are being taught in Catholic schools. We were taught THAT God is the creator and that the Theory of Evolution only help to explain the process of HOW God created. If you were my kid I would have spoken with your principle.
I also believe that God is the Creator, and that along with everything else he created the laws of physics, chemistry, etc. (But, just for clarification - not argument, I am not a proponent of Darwin’s evolution. I used to be).
But, I was trying to explain to my daughter how the earth was formed. Her answer was “God created it”. And I said - of course - he created everything. But HOW did he create it.
And then I had a thought pop into my head (I’m sure others have said the same thing, and perhaps it was in the back of my brain somewhere). When mom makes a cake, does she just snap her finger’s and a cake appears? No. What does she do? She mixes a bunch of things together in the correct amounts and the various laws of chemistry (or whatever it is in baking!) take over. Like the yeast causing the stuff to rise (I guess that’s bread!?), and everything working together just right to come up with a great cake.
The earth is a lot like that I think. Lots of amazing things that have to go together just right to make it work. I told her that the earth is an amazing place. Still lots to learn about it and how it works, but recognizing the love that God put into creating it (like Mom puts into a birthday cake) is a good thing along the way.
shaky theories and scientific fads don’t refute eternal facts.
Great analogy. Creation was both an event and a process. No body denies that creation happened. Few deny that God created. Many disagree HOW He created. The debate is between those who believe in an abracadabra instantaneous process and those who believe there was an orderly science based process.
Another analogy is the process of Salvation. God had it in His powers to simple declare salvation yet He went through the process of prophesy, the birth of Christ, the teachings, the formation of His Church, the Crucifixion, and Resurrection. To me those who deny science simply do not grasp the degree to which the discoveries add to the Glory of God.
Your post is interesting, so I went to my copy of Steve Jones’ “Darwin’s Ghost, The Origin of Species Updated.”
In there Jones parallels Darwin’s work, chapter by chapter, and covers the fossil record in chapter nine. In there, I caught onto Jones noting how “fast” organic matter decays and disappears.
In there, Jones notes that fossils tell us a lot about extinct species, describing them as “Messages from history”; and from that I see extinction itself as evidence supporting the theory of evolution.
Thank you for your post.
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