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LDS Church continues Haitian relief efforts
Mormon Times ^ | Jan. 13, 2010 | Scott Taylor

Posted on 01/14/2010 10:18:32 AM PST by svcw

Islamic Relief USA officials announced Wednesday they were flying $1 million of aid to Haiti in cooperation with the LDS Church.

(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...


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WTH?
1 posted on 01/14/2010 10:18:33 AM PST by svcw
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To: svcw

OK all you Mormans EXPLAIN THIS!


2 posted on 01/14/2010 10:20:59 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: svcw

Probably a case where some rich Arab philanthropist (Saudi royal family?) wants to help, but because of scrutiny, it is difficult to give the money directly so they give it to a charity or group they know will provide direct support. If they gave it to the Red Cross, I’m sure it wouldn’t have the same shock value.


3 posted on 01/14/2010 10:23:53 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

The Red Crecent was set up as a mirror organization of the Red Cross for moslem nations


4 posted on 01/14/2010 10:28:04 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

But does the Red Crescent operate in Catholic nations? Are they even allowed in?


5 posted on 01/14/2010 10:29:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
From the article:

Collaborative relief efforts between Islamic Relief USA and the LDS Church have spanned not only the U.S. but have dotted the globe as well. One of the most recent major partnerships came when the two combined to respond to the October 2009 Pacific Rim earthquakes with a massive aid shipment of food, supplies and equipment to Samoa -- the LDS Church providing the supplies and Islamic Relief USA covering the cost of the airlift.

Its not a one time deal, it is on going.

6 posted on 01/14/2010 10:29:16 AM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: svcw

Interesting new website.

I also noticed the Census info and the tweet (r. sidebar), re: Obama’s what’s up to Islamic Relief Jan 1st.


7 posted on 01/14/2010 10:39:23 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: svcw

Why in the blue blazes would the Mormon Church partner itself with a Muslim organization? I do NOT get it.


8 posted on 01/14/2010 10:51:35 AM PST by T Minus Four (Help Haiti and know your money is going to the right people - www.WorldVision.org)
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To: T Minus Four
“Why in the blue blazes would the Mormon Church partner itself with a Muslim organization?”

To help thousands of people who have lost everything they ever had. Maybe that is why. If it wasn't for a bunch of criminals humping sandbags, my wife and I would have lost our home during the great Mississippi flood in the early ‘90’s. Tragedies create strange bedfellows, and I love and appreciate every one of those criminals. They were not forced to help.

9 posted on 01/14/2010 10:59:59 AM PST by 999replies
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To: svcw
Well well...

What was it old Joe said about being another Muhammad?

10 posted on 01/14/2010 11:00:52 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: 999replies

Thank you and welcome to Free Republic.


11 posted on 01/14/2010 11:01:32 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: mnehring
But does the Red Crescent operate in Catholic nations? Are they even allowed in?

I think that is something worthy of a little more research, but this is my observations. Because islam is so "protective" and applies "the will of allah" to disasters - they have a tendency to keep non-islamic aid away, like the Boxing Day quake/tsunami of a few years ago. Thus an islamic aid agency was formed.

Non-islamic nations are less inclined to decline aid from any source - so it wouldn't be suprising to see Red Crecent at least in partnership with Red Cross if Red C were to get involved. This is partially answered in that another islamic aid group is working with mormons to get aid in.

12 posted on 01/14/2010 11:07:12 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: 999replies; T Minus Four
“Why in the blue blazes would the Mormon Church partner itself with a Muslim organization?”

Perhaps just following the example of it's favorite Senator Orin Hatch, reaching across the aisle ......to shake hands with the enemy. Why not partner up with, oh say, another Christian organization?

13 posted on 01/14/2010 11:10:11 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: US Navy Vet; svcw; T Minus Four
25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy aheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took acare of him.

35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

Luke 10:25-37

14 posted on 01/14/2010 11:10:22 AM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: colorcountry

I get it, you don’t like Mormons. It looks like you don’t set a very good example yourself, while you are giving out advice to others. Too bad, a lot of good people in that religion.


15 posted on 01/14/2010 11:14:52 AM PST by 999replies
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To: svcw

Oh joy...

The twoo christian churches are cooperating in their PR events...

Meanwhile the apostate Christian church is doing works of charity in secret as usual...

Not letting the left hand know what the right hand has given...

Oh noes...


16 posted on 01/14/2010 11:15:13 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Reaganesque
Very good scripture. Thank you for reminding us.

"The heart that Christ gives to his people feels compassion for those who suffer, no matter what their faith.

When the Bible says, “Weep with those who weep” (Romans 12:15), it does not add, “unless God caused the weeping.” Job’s comforters would have done better to weep with Job than talk so much. That does not change when we discover that Job’s suffering was ultimately from God. No, it is right to weep with those who suffer. Pain is pain, no matter who causes it. We are all sinners. Empathy flows not from the causes of pain, but the company of pain. And we are all in it together."

...John Piper

17 posted on 01/14/2010 11:15:33 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: svcw

The LDS church has an active and operational relief organization, something I’m guessing the islamists did not. So the best way to add useful help from the islamists is for them to tack onto an already working program.

Next people will be complaining that George Bush is working with Bill Clinton on relief efforts.

BTW, my good mormon work friend’s daughter is intimately involved in the haiti relief effort, although we haven’t gotten a report back yet from her.


18 posted on 01/14/2010 11:16:57 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: US Navy Vet

It’s “Mormon”, not “Morman” (which always makes me think of the south park episode where terminator “Bill Cosby” keeps saying “Eric Cart-man”.


19 posted on 01/14/2010 11:18:53 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: T Minus Four
Why in the blue blazes would the Mormon Church partner itself with a Muslim organization? I do NOT get it.

It's scriptural...

2 Corinthians 6:14-17

"Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?"

21 posted on 01/14/2010 11:23:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Alternative "partners" for the mormons to "cooperate" with in sending aid to Haiti.

OH! These are all Christian churches. Imagine that!

I guess they aren't "Christians on Steroids".

Presbyterian Churches Send Aid to Haiti

Methodist Churches Send Aid to Haiti

Baptist Churches Send Aid to Haiti

Evangelical Churches Send Aid to Haiti

Catholic Church Send Aid to Haiti

Salvation Army Mobilizing Aid to Haiti

Episcopalian Churches Send Aid to Haiti

Episcopalian Churches Send Aid to Haiti

22 posted on 01/14/2010 11:23:38 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: T Minus Four

Our LDS (Mormon)13th Article of Faith states: “We believe in being honest, chaste, benevolent, virtuous,and in doing good to all men ...”.

Obviously, the arrangement with the Red Cresent allowed us to expand our relief opportunities to alleviate the suffering of the People of Haiti. Simple as that.

For those of you who are interested in fault-finding with our church, may I recommend you to the anti-mormon book section at your favorite church/book store, where you will find a pleasing array of half-truths, inuendo, and outright distortions to indulge your wildest imaginations.


23 posted on 01/14/2010 11:24:09 AM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: colorcountry
...it does not add, “unless God caused the weeping.”

I wonder what part VOODOO plays in all of this?

24 posted on 01/14/2010 11:25:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Sure ldsers have active relief efforts and they never tire telling people about it.
ldsers have been working with islamic fascists for along time according to the article in Mormon Times.


25 posted on 01/14/2010 11:26:43 AM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: 999replies; Religion Moderator

I love Mormons. Almost all my family is Mormon. I don’t trust the Mormonism Machine.

My post was removed due to LA Times copywrite.

I think I am allowed to post a link. Go there and read it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2


26 posted on 01/14/2010 11:27:00 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Why CAN’T MORMONs send flowers?


27 posted on 01/14/2010 11:27:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reaganesque

point?


28 posted on 01/14/2010 11:27:55 AM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: teppe

Actually it says, “We believe in being honest, TRUE, chaste benevolent.......

You left out the “true.” Freudian slip?


29 posted on 01/14/2010 11:29:10 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The LDS church has an active and operational relief organization, something I’m guessing the islamists did not.

The Salvation Army has had a humanitarian presence in Haiti since 1950, and its operational disaster relief is probably second only to the Red Cross

30 posted on 01/14/2010 11:30:25 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: colorcountry

Conservativism=Live and let live


31 posted on 01/14/2010 11:31:09 AM PST by 999replies
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To: svcw

If the islamists want to help, fine by me, but I’d be real quick to distance myself from them if they wanted to partner with me, and I’d be quick to distance myself with some organization that wanted to partner with them.

Any group that muslims welcome with open arms needs to take a good, long, hard look at what it’s all about.


32 posted on 01/14/2010 11:31:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

And Matthew 6:3

But when you give to someone in need, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.

or

Don’t break your arm while patting yourself on the back


33 posted on 01/14/2010 11:33:22 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: 999replies
Conservativism=Live and let live

You didn't really just say that? Did you?

34 posted on 01/14/2010 11:36:28 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: ejonesie22

Well, well ....

What was it Christ said about the good Samaritan? (answer: go thou and do likewise)

Here’s an interesting question .... What’s the difference between an 2000 yr old Pharasee Hypocrite and a Current Era Protestant Hypocrite? (answer: The first gets his definition of God from the Talmud, the second gets his understanding of God from the Nicene, Apostolic and Athenasian Creeds)


35 posted on 01/14/2010 11:42:19 AM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: svcw

Actually it make sense if you think of it this way, they have similar goals:

“I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”- Joesph Smith


36 posted on 01/14/2010 11:43:17 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: teppe

I think in order to rightly call someone a hypocrite in this context, you would have to know that they had not given to the relief effort in Haiti.

Do you know everyone who has given freely to the effort? Just askin’.


37 posted on 01/14/2010 11:45:57 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: teppe; ejonesie22

I think in order to rightly call someone a hypocrite in this context, you would have to know that they had not given to the relief effort in Haiti.

Do you know everyone who has given freely to the effort? Just askin’.


38 posted on 01/14/2010 11:46:09 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; svcw

, something I’m guessing the islamists did not.

- - - - - - -
Yes they do, it is called the Red Crescent.


39 posted on 01/14/2010 11:47:52 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: teppe; T Minus Four

For those of you who are interested in fault-finding with our church, may I recommend you to the anti-mormon book section at your favorite church/book store, where you will find a pleasing array of half-truths, inuendo, and outright distortions to indulge your wildest imaginations.

- - - - - - -
No need, your own (LDS) source provide a great bounty of “ half-truths, inuendo, and outright distortions to indulge your wildest imaginations.” and that is just their “restored” scriptures and teachings!

I was shocked, after spending almost a year trying to prove the “anti’s” wrong and lying that the “anti” sources are often more accurate, better sourced, and given in better context than the LDS’ own works. I


40 posted on 01/14/2010 11:52:12 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: teppe; ejonesie22

Here’s an interesting question .... What’s the difference between an 2000 yr old Gnostic heretic and a Current Era Mormon Heretic? (answer: The first gets his THEOLOGY from Greek philosophy, the second gets his understanding of God from a fraud and charlatan named Joseph Smith).


41 posted on 01/14/2010 11:56:56 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: teppe
You are right. I should base my understanding of god on the “Lord of the Rings”. If I am going to be insane enough to hang my soul's fate on a work of fiction it should be good well written fiction.

As far as the Sumaritan is concerned, one whould ask, are you helping for his glory or your own.

42 posted on 01/14/2010 11:58:34 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: greyfoxx39

SO you would have expected the islamic relief fund to work with the Salvation Army? If they had, would we be attacking the Salvation Army?

If I see an Arab man putting money in the Salvation Army pot at Christmas, should I call up the national organization and complain about it?

What is your point?

Apparently, the Islamic Relief fund has a relationship with the LDS relief organization, which is mutually helpful toward getting aid to people who need it. So it’s not just that the islamist organization doesn’t have boots to go on the ground in Haiti, it’s something that is already set up.

It seems to involve the fact that the Islamic Relief organization has lots of money from our foreign oil purchases, which can be used to help people in times of need. The LDS has lots of volunteers willing to risk their lives to help others, and an effective organization for delivering that help.

I’m not sure why FR is actually complaining about non-government-funded relief efforts now, except that it plays into the hatred some people have for muslims and mormons.


43 posted on 01/14/2010 11:59:56 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: metmom

Read that LA Times link at #26...

Its eyeball poppin’...


44 posted on 01/14/2010 12:03:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw

Right now, God’s children are dying horrifically and need all the help they can get. I see this as two groups of people trying to help, as best they can. It sounds like the Mormons had the supplies and the Muslims had the funds. Rather that fight among each other, they partnered to help their brothers and sisters.

God knows their hearts, but I say, get the help their as quickly as possible!!!!!


45 posted on 01/14/2010 12:05:33 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah speaks for me!)
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To: ejonesie22

Precious...

Now hang over your teeth...


46 posted on 01/14/2010 12:07:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Why didn't ldsers partner with the Salvation Army as they have been in Haiti for more than 50 years? Just a question.
The question is why have ldsers partnered with islamic fascist for decades?
47 posted on 01/14/2010 12:08:11 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If obama hooked the US effort up with the Red Crescent, would you complain?

I think I might. I would think we could do humanitarian effort on our own, and let the Red Crescent do their humanitarian effort on their own.

Everyone helping. Isn’t that the point?


48 posted on 01/14/2010 12:09:17 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: reaganaut

Ouch...


49 posted on 01/14/2010 12:10:01 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: mockingbyrd

Why did the Mormons need the Muslim’s funds. I don’t get it.

Mormons are supposedly one of the richest religious organizations in America.


50 posted on 01/14/2010 12:11:29 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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