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Pat Robertson's Disasterous Remarks [Video]
Examiner.com ^ | 1/15/10 | Joseph Speranzella SFO

Posted on 01/15/2010 7:13:05 AM PST by Jihadi Du Jour

A short distance from the city of Norfolk you will find Pat Robertson's CBN complex in Virginia Beach. Locals have been both blessed and embarrased by his religious musings. It seems, when it comes to disasters, Pat Robertson is quite outspoken.

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson, after the city of Dover, Pennsylvania voted to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial...Keep Reading...

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 700club; beauvoir; cbn; christian; evangelical; haiti; maxbeauvoir; operationblessing; patrobertson; robertson; vanity; virginia; voodoo

1 posted on 01/15/2010 7:13:08 AM PST by Jihadi Du Jour
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

I don’t feel any need to speak for Robertson.
He doesn’t speak for me.


2 posted on 01/15/2010 7:15:04 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

God may be judging Haiti and he may not, but for sure I don’t think Pat Robertson is in the know about it.


3 posted on 01/15/2010 7:18:04 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

Plenty of old testament type cranks out there in any of the three major Abrahamic religions, he just happens to be associated with conservatives so we have to hear about it. Nothing about the will of allah or whatever some yeshiva trained yahoo’s prophecy predicts much less the Neo-animism of the libtards and its spirit world mumbo jumbo. But it gives small minded people a way to seem respectable by bashing this crank and currying small (very small) favor with the hideos left.


4 posted on 01/15/2010 7:19:22 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

Oh right! Shoot the messanger!


5 posted on 01/15/2010 7:20:53 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour
I'm no theologian, but wouldn't this fall into a broad category of "taking the Lord's name in vain"? I mean, a human who claims to be able to predict what God will think or what God will do, is really overreaching himself. Robertson is using is poor human brain and asserting what God's judgement shall be. It's a vain effort. He cannot know what God will or will not do, and he ought not to behave as if he has that ability.

Now, having said that, I will make a flat statement that we are all sinners, and we all deserve destruction. It is only the redemptive grace of God that ever saves anyone.

I wish Robertson simply urged everyone to get right with God, for you just never know when you will be called to judgment. Taht's simply true for everyone on the planet.

6 posted on 01/15/2010 7:24:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

They need to stop trying to make political hay out of Pat Robertsons’ silly comments. Why does the left constantly try to make political hay out of natural disaster anyways? Its disgusting.

Besides all Haitians know it was caused by too few goat sacrifices.

//jk


7 posted on 01/15/2010 7:25:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour
Danny Glover just one-upped Pat Robertson and blamed the eathquake on Copenhagen:

“When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin’?”

:-)
8 posted on 01/15/2010 7:30:26 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

Earthquakes happen to righteous people as well as to unrighteous people. They happen to evangelicals as well as voodoo practitioners. But at least Robertson’s organization is sending aid to Haiti instead of sacrificing a chicken.


9 posted on 01/15/2010 7:51:56 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

What Pat Robertson said and what the media say he said are too different. Haiti does seem to be cursed. I don’t trust the media to tell me what Pat or the Pope said they distort every thing to a their agenda.


10 posted on 01/15/2010 7:59:47 AM PST by the_daug
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To: DonaldC; wagglebee
President Barack Obama condemned Pat Robertson's comments and then yesterday HIMSELF asked if God had forsaken Haiti (long before the earthquake):

Finally, I want to speak directly to the people of Haiti. Few in the world have endured the hardships that you have known. Long before this tragedy, daily life itself was often a bitter struggle. And after suffering so much for so long, to face this new horror must cause some to look up and ask, have we somehow been forsaken?

11 posted on 01/15/2010 8:05:04 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

There was a moonbat on Art Bell yesterday also blaming the earthquake on global warming.


12 posted on 01/15/2010 8:06:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour

Robertson had a team IN Haiti constructing a sewage treatment plant WHEN the quake occured. And he’s in the first wave of getting relief supplies to Haiti. Lets keep things in perspective here a little bit.


13 posted on 01/15/2010 8:23:43 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

This to me is true charity in action:

VATICAN CITY, 13 JAN 2010 (VIS) - At the end of today’s general audience, held in the Paul VI Hall, the Pope launched an appeal “for the dramatic situation currently being experienced in Haiti”.

“My thoughts go in particular to the population hit just a few hours ago by a devastating earthquake which has caused serious loss of human life, large numbers of homeless and missing people, and vast material damage.

“I invite everyone to join my prayers to the Lord for the victims of this catastrophe and for those who mourn their loss. I give assurances of my spiritual closeness to people who have lost their homes and to everyone who, in various ways, has been affected by this terrible calamity, imploring God to bring them consolation and relief in their suffering.

“I appeal to the generosity of all people so that these our brothers and sisters who are experiencing a moment of need and suffering may not lack our concrete solidarity and the effective support of the international community. The Catholic Church will not fail to move immediately, through her charitable institutions, to meet the most immediate needs of the population”.


14 posted on 01/15/2010 10:34:36 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII
This to me is true charity in action:

IIRC the same call for prayer came from Robertson.

15 posted on 01/15/2010 11:42:52 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

He claimed God told him to run for president of the US..... Anytime something happens he either points a finger of blame ,or makes outrageous statements like saying, his prayers turned the hurricane that was headed toward some country away from the course it was taking thus becoming the hero of the day.


16 posted on 01/15/2010 11:48:29 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Godzilla

I sincerely doubt he meant it.


17 posted on 01/15/2010 11:49:06 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII
I sincerely doubt he meant it.

Ah, mind reading at its best. Ignoring the fact that he had people on the ground there doing charity work the very day of the earthquake - he was putting his money where his mouth is. Since Haiti is listed as a "Catholic" country, why were his people there instead of those from the Vatican? Jesus said something about those who 'say' go and be warmed and fed versus those who actually bring the blankets there and distribute the food. Prayer by itself is not "charity", boots on the ground is - check it out in the bible.

18 posted on 01/15/2010 12:05:30 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

The Holy Father actually called for Emergency Help for Devastated Haiti, next time do your reading.

Pope Benedict XVI issued an urgent appeal for help for the people of Haiti at the conclusion of his regular weekly public audience on Wednesday, January 13. He called attention to the “tragic situation” created by a major earthquake that has caused “serious loss of human life, large numbers of homeless and missing people, and vast material damage.” Promising his prayers for the victims and their families, the Pope added: “I appeal to the generosity of all people so that these our brothers and sisters who are experiencing a moment of need and suffering may not lack our concrete solidarity and the effective support of the international community.” He said that Catholic charities would respond as quickly and generously as possible.

Haiti’s capital, Port au Prince, was devastated by the earthquake, which measured 7.0 on the Richter scale. Thousands of people are feared dead, hundreds of buildings destroyed, and as many as 3 million people in need of emergency relief. Haiti is the most impoverished country in the Western hemisphere, and the slum outside Port au Prince, Citi Soleil, is home to tens of thousands of people already living in dire poverty.

http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=99810


19 posted on 01/15/2010 1:28:10 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Considering that seminaries and a Cathedral were among the places that were destroyed I hardly think the Hand of God was at work. Pat Robertson can say whatever he wants. It’s a free speech country and he’s got the money somehow to have access to the medias. But telling people who are suffering that they deserve it is wrong wrong wrong. That is not Christian teaching at all.


20 posted on 01/15/2010 1:30:44 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Pat Robertson didn’t say that God did it; he said that the Hatians did it centuries ago by joining up with Satan, thus God stood back and didn’t interfere.


21 posted on 01/15/2010 1:40:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

But here’s something that’s rather bone chilling.

http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles_ca/2004-2-Haiti_and_Satan.htm

“Haiti and Satan
Haiti was officially dedicated to Satan in 1791. It was rededicated to Satan during the two hundred year anniversary in 1991 by Aristide.”

“At that time, it was noted that Aristide had, behind his desk in his presidential office, a huge oil painting of a necklace murder. Aristide was quoted as having described the smell of burning petrol and human flesh in a necklace murder as ‘a most beautiful aroma’.”

“Not surprisingly, this country beset by occultism is the poorest state in the Western hemisphere. The vast majority of the population of Haiti are actively involved in Voodoo. Haiti has the worst soil-erosion, pollution, and de-forestation problems in the Americas.”

“Although they share the same island, the contrast between the predominantly Christian Dominican Republic with its lush rainforests and fertile farms, and the deforested, eroded mess that is Haiti could not be more acute.”

“Why then is the ANC government wanting to align itself with an occultic tyrant and a regime dedicated to Satan?”

When things like this happen, it strikes the good, the bad and even the mediocre.


22 posted on 01/15/2010 1:46:33 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

In the youtube video, Robertson spoke of the Haitians being against Napoleon III who was the French Emperor in the late 19th century and not even alive at the time!

Another thing, suffering happens in this life because of original sin. We are fallen, and so is creation itself. Because we and creation are fallen, we will continue to suffer personal and natural pains until Christ returns and remakes everything new again. Had sin never entered the world, this like this would never happen.

I feel we need to be very careful about declaring any event being an act of God; however, we also must not reject the possibility entirely. Many of us feel that abortion, and sins as grave as that, are things can easily bring down the wrath of God upon our nation...our nation bears the corporate sin of legal abortion and I do not think many Catholics would find it strange that God would punish a people for such grave sins.

Yet, no matter what the truth is with all of this...it all comes down to sin: personal sin, coporate sin and original sin.


23 posted on 01/15/2010 1:49:49 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Haitians react to televangelist Pat Robertson’s ‘devil pact’ remarks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_goSKPCaM


24 posted on 01/15/2010 1:55:01 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

But the Lord’s children go to meet him, so there is a distinct limit to their suffering.

Imagine what the Christians in China, North Korea, Pakistan, and India go through. Suffering happens.


25 posted on 01/15/2010 1:55:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Pat Robertson is a reason atheists hate religion. he’s playing God when he says they brought this on themselves. talk about pride. he probably also thinks he knows who goes to hell and heaven. this is a result of protestantism—fundamentalist stupidity.


26 posted on 01/15/2010 1:56:49 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Your link doesn’t work, and the Christian Action Network page doesn’t have anything about Haiti.


27 posted on 01/15/2010 2:03:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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“They were under the heel of the French, uh, you know Napoleon the 3rd and whatever, and they got together and swore a pact to the Devil.
“They said, ‘We will serve you if you’ll get us free from the French.’
“True story.
“And so the Devil said, ‘Okay, it’s a deal.’
“And, uh, they kicked the French out, you know, with Haitians revolted and got themselves free.”

How does Pat Robertson know what Satan said?


28 posted on 01/15/2010 2:09:03 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

“The Devil went down to Haiti, he was lookin’ to make a deal...”


29 posted on 01/15/2010 2:10:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: editor-surveyor

The words came out of his own mouth and no amount of putting in context can make them look good. Where does compassion end and condescension begin?


30 posted on 01/15/2010 2:11:15 PM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Pat doesn’t know how to shut up.

Every time that a disaster happenes the media go to him and ask, and he never fails to give them fresh red meat.


31 posted on 01/15/2010 3:30:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Jihadi Du Jour
Interesting take on what Robertson said here. "Haitians and the Devil".

Of course, Pat Robertson isn’t very influential,Kathy Shaidle (www.fivefeetoffury.com/) says “Pat Robertson’s only viewers are reporters hoping he’ll say something stupid“) and I never had much time for the theory that that natural disasters are a judgment on whoever they they happen to, but I understand that ministers feel differently about that sort of thing. But where did he get this weird idea, I thought? Turns out that it’s what Haitians believe themselves:
32 posted on 01/16/2010 1:01:46 AM PST by caveat emptor
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