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Doctor Claims He Has Evidence of the Afterlife
MSNBC ^ | 1/20/10 | Michael Inbar

Posted on 01/21/2010 6:27:18 AM PST by marshmallow

In new book, he says that near-death accounts transcend cultures and ages

The near-death experience story is so common that it has become a bit of a cliché: A medical patient, hanging in a murky limbo between life and death, is drawn through a tunnel of bright light, meets their maker, and is told they must return to the land of living.

But that scenario played out letter-perfectly for Mary Jo Rapini. And her story is getting firm backing by a doctor who has studied some 1,300 near-death experiences. Medical doctor Jeffrey Long chronicles Rapini’s story, along with his own research, in a new book: “Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences.”

In the book, Long contends his study shows that accounts of near-death experiences play out remarkably similarly among the people who have had them, crossing age and cultural boundaries to such a degree that they can’t be chalked up simply to everyone having seen the same Hollywood movie.

Through a tunnel

Appearing with Dr. Long on TODAY Wednesday, Rapini related her near-death experience to Meredith Vieira. A clinical psychologist, Rapini had long worked with terminal cancer patients, and when they told her of their near-death experiences, she would often chalk their stories up as a reaction to their pain medication.

But in April 2003, she faced her own mortality. Rapini told Vieira she suffered an aneurysm while working out a gym and was rushed to the hospital. She was in an intensive care unit for three days when she took a turn for the worse.

“All of a sudden [doctors] were rushing around me and inserting things into me, and they called my husband,” she told Vieira.

“I looked up and I saw this light; it wasn’t a normal light, it was different. It was luminescent.

(Excerpt) Read more at today.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: nde; ndes; neardeathexperience
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To: marshmallow

Maybe Rapini could describe to us what God looked like.../s


61 posted on 01/21/2010 9:41:35 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you.)
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To: marshmallow

My dad was dying of cancer and heart disease. He was hurting. Then one day he opened his eyes and looked up, smiled a great big smile, held his arms out like he was about to hug someone above him, and died.


62 posted on 01/21/2010 9:44:20 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: waxer1

So sorry to hear of the loss of your precious toddler...


63 posted on 01/21/2010 9:44:56 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Shimmer1
"Anything that takes you back to Biblical proof that you don’t like or can’t wave away...."
What Biblical proof did I just wave away? I stand soley on scripture (everthing else is sinking sand).

"you just state that Heaven is outside of space and time. That’s fine, but don’t pretend it’s from the Bible."
"Truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am." - if that is not outside of space and time......

"Christ came to live in our box of space and time."
Fully God and fully man.

64 posted on 01/21/2010 10:05:26 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: r9etb
"....what seems like a very confined view of Scripture...."

Being "born again" is a confined view of scripture? Jesus is quite clear on what He means by that.

65 posted on 01/21/2010 10:07:44 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: marshmallow
“It suggests that whether you know about near-death experiences, what your cultural upbringing is, what your awareness of death is, it doesn’t seem to have any effect on the content of the near-death experience.”

I wish they'd go into more detail on this. If a dying Muslim sees Allah/Mohammed/72 Virgins, and the Christians see Jesus, et al, then it IS a cultural thing. My own thinking is that it's just a "Death Mechanism" (for want of a better term), where the shutting down of the brain brings hallucinations. I understand scientists can recreate a "religious experience" by exciting a certain part of the brain, and if so, then the brain is just tapping into that area as you expire.

66 posted on 01/21/2010 10:10:09 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Gamecock

Impressive. Thanks.


67 posted on 01/21/2010 10:13:03 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: r9etb
"They're beautiful, and they're absolutely faithful to the idea of a loving God. What is your resistance to the possibility that this really is God at work in these people's lives?"

Yes, those stories are beautiful, and I have no doubt that God is at work in their lives, but we need to weigh everthing against what the Word of God actually says.
I love an inspiring delightful story, but it is dangerous if I confuse that with the actual Word of God.
Saul of Tarsus no doubt had Divinely-inspired visions of heaven, but did not claim to actually meet God face-to-face.
I'm not trying to throw cold water on this, I just think we need to be cautious as to what we consider the actual words of God Himself.

68 posted on 01/21/2010 10:14:28 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz,
I thought you had been "re-banned" from FreeRepublic - it's always "interesting" to see you show up on a thread.......
69 posted on 01/21/2010 10:17:11 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

bttt


70 posted on 01/21/2010 10:19:11 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: marshmallow; Alamo-Girl; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; ..

END TIMES LIST

LIFE AFTER DEATH BOOK AND TODAY SHOW INTERVIEW.

Worth a read at the link, I think.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34953759/ns/today-today_people/?ns=today-today_people

Including post #17 from Gamecock of similar from two of his patients.


71 posted on 01/21/2010 10:20:00 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Psalm 73

You bet...there are also near death experience when people came back screaming of being in hell. This article deceives the masses without Jesus people are hell bound.


72 posted on 01/21/2010 10:22:22 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Psalm 73

God told me, in a dream — and talking about me — “I’d hit it.”


73 posted on 01/21/2010 10:36:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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To: Quix

My mother, at the end of her battle with cancer, would comment on people ‘in the corner’ and look up at the ceiling where the corner met it. Now she was heavily sedated, no doubt, and probably had some lack of oxygen with her body shutting down... but she never hallucinated living people. She only hallucinated people who were dead. I always found that odd.

Oh yeah, and cats. She hallucinated cats a good bit. From what I understand from others working in hospice, hallucinating cats is common for some strange reason.


74 posted on 01/21/2010 10:42:59 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: steve-b

Journalism? It was a woman describing her experience. It was also a direct quote. How is this a lack of journalism?


75 posted on 01/21/2010 10:44:22 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Psalm 73
Being "born again" is a confined view of scripture? Jesus is quite clear on what He means by that.

You're using a particular view of Scripture to suggest that these sorts of episodes would only be confined to those who are already born again.

I doubt that God would be bound by such constraints; there's certainly nothing in Scripture to support that kind of restriction.

Indeed, if personal contact with God were preconditioned on already being born again, then I guess I and a lot of other people would have to join St. Paul as being ineligible for conversion.

76 posted on 01/21/2010 10:58:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Psalm 73
Saul of Tarsus no doubt had Divinely-inspired visions of heaven, but did not claim to actually meet God face-to-face.

Aside from that little episode on the road to Damascus, you mean.

77 posted on 01/21/2010 11:00:58 AM PST by r9etb
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To: autumnraine

Thanks much.

Very interesting.

No trouble believing that, at all.


78 posted on 01/21/2010 11:02:19 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lazamataz
God told me, in a dream — and talking about me — “I’d hit it.”

Uh, Laz, you do realize that "smite" doesn't mean the same as "hit," in this context....

Of course, either way I suppose you'd still be screwed when all was said and done.

79 posted on 01/21/2010 11:02:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Ellendra

I saw Hell when I was 13 and Heaven when I was 28.

Both change your life irrevocably, and pretty much make you an alien on this planet.


80 posted on 01/21/2010 11:10:58 AM PST by txhurl (RATS: You look FABULOUS in your fetal position!)
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