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Can a person be born gay/homosexual?
Examiner.com ^ | Feb. 3, 2010 | RĂ©ne Girard

Posted on 02/03/2010 5:29:33 PM PST by RGirard

There is a lot of controversy right now over homosexuals in the military, gay marriage, teaching children in school ... At the root of this issue is the question of whether or not it is a choice, or if a person can be born gay/homosexual.

In the book "If You Read Just One Book This Year ... " the author, who goes by the pen-name "An American Man," addresses this issue ... The author starts out with a humorous approach ... by comparing homosexuals to vegetables ...

He proceeds to address hate crimes and how television media plays a role.

"Many people in the media seem to forget that intelligent consumers want to understand both sides ... I want to know and understand WHY people are gay ... Even if you don't like or didn't expect the answers you receive, shouldn't the TRUTH actually BE important?"

American Man then discusses how we are "losing out because of manipulative, selfish agendas ... because there is "no genetic proof that anyone is born gay. However, does that mean that people are NOT born gay? No. .... just like stem cell research, and evolution, and the education system ... ...

The author points out that "Many people have come in and out of the lifestyle...

So if it's not a genetic thing, then what is it?

"Part of it is cultural sexual lust ... it is like a fad or a virus. Some people are more susceptible than others. And once infected ..."

What other reason(s) could there be? ... [ see article ]

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: disorders; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; marriage; psychology; sin
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To: jonrick46

Celebrate cuiltural diversity???

Just Damn! ...knock...knock...knock...

“Who’s there?”

“Domino’s!”


21 posted on 02/03/2010 5:50:57 PM PST by CTyank
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To: Psycho_Bunny

If they’re born that way how come they do so damn much recruiting?


22 posted on 02/03/2010 5:53:52 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Boucheau

There is no such thing as a “gay gene” and even scientists and doctors working for pro homosexual groups state this. Google:No Gay gene


23 posted on 02/03/2010 5:54:45 PM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (Palin rules....Odumbo drools)
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To: Boucheau

Your post doesn’t prove anything. It is likely that the proclivity toward homosexuality starts very early. This does not prove they are born that way.


24 posted on 02/03/2010 5:58:05 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: trumandogz

I agree. My husbands brother is gay. Everyone in the family is tall and big boned, except him. He is so tiny and feminine. My husband said that he looked gay since he was a small boy.

However, I do believe that some people seem to make a choice because they think it’s a cool thing to experiment now a days.


25 posted on 02/03/2010 5:58:48 PM PST by kara37
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To: Julia H.

I hear your argument alot (the alcoholic) but I think homosexuality aligns closer with anorexia and bulimia in the spectrum.

It would be nice to get a history of familial relationships and results of a self perception test. I think there are true external and internal markers that steer people to homosexuality.

Like other issues, alcoholism and eating disorders, a small portion will naturally “grow out” of the problem, others will respond to therapy and reorient, some will respond to therapy but will have a triggers,behavior, therapy cycle, oand thers will never respond to interventions.


26 posted on 02/03/2010 5:59:01 PM PST by PrincessB ("if government X-rays are anything like the photos the DMV takes for your license, count me out" A.)
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To: lonestar

It is an illness. The choice is then to seek being well or embrace the illness.


27 posted on 02/03/2010 6:00:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BelleAl
“If a “gay gene” is discovered, would liberals support a woman’s right of privacy in aborting for this reason? Just wondering........”

my guess is yes, as liberals like all sorts of abortion.

However, I imagine, that when the gay gene is found that everyone liberals and conservatives will add gays to groups that are protected by the Equal Protection Clause.

28 posted on 02/03/2010 6:00:34 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
For the most part, gays are born gay, just as I was born straight. However, there may be some gays and lesbians that elect such a lifestyle.

Nonsense. Homosexuality is a deviation of the mind, not a physical deviation. There is no "sexual preference" gene that causes one to be attracted sexually to someone of the same sex, any more than there is a gene that causes someone to be attracted to someone with blonde hair rather than brown, or someone tall rather than short. Our attractions are in our mind and our mind is formed by our experiences.

29 posted on 02/03/2010 6:00:40 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: CTyank

LOL! It does look like a pizza!


30 posted on 02/03/2010 6:01:48 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
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To: RGirard
At the present time there is no evidence that homosexual behavior or even tendency is heritable. Those who hold the contrary are ignoramuses, demogogues or liars. Nevertheless, there is a dictum in science that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

For those who would like for political reasons to believe that homosexuality is inherited, the burden of proof is on them. If you want to assert that some swans are not-white, it is up to you to produce a not-white swan.

If you want to assert that homosexuals "are born that way," fine: produce the gene structures and triggering mechanisms that make that happen.

31 posted on 02/03/2010 6:03:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: lonestar
"Choose" was a poor word.

People with a strong curiosity or slight bent in that direction, may "choose" to act on their thoughts when the culture they live in is permissive - or even encouraging - of the behavior. Peer pressure will often come into play with this type of person.

32 posted on 02/03/2010 6:06:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: scripter
Ex-gays do exist

That's a lot of crap. If you read the articles, you should discover that (a) they were never gay to begin with, but rather experimenting out of drug addiction, destitute, rebellion, etc. and/or (b), they are still attracted to guys, but fight the urge to act on that urge, even if that means celebacy or a faux marriage.

33 posted on 02/03/2010 6:07:55 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: pyx

MANY heterosexual women do the same. I don’t see your point.


34 posted on 02/03/2010 6:08:09 PM PST by Conservativism
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To: lonestar
Why would anybody choose to be gay?

Here's a site where some admit to choosing to be gay: http://queerbychoice.com

35 posted on 02/03/2010 6:11:55 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: RGirard

Yes, I believe they are born gay.


36 posted on 02/03/2010 6:18:24 PM PST by Fawn (I'm Republican ..becuz we can't all be on welfare.....)
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To: Boucheau

Regardless of whether one is or just chooses to be homosexual, the lifestyle is a destructive one.

Homosexual activists have tried to force the following beliefs on the rest of Americans.
1. Homosexuals can’t change their sexual preferences
2. Homosexuals can’t control their sexual urges.

As long as homosexuals feel it is OK to have sexual relations any time any place with anyone they do NOT belong in the military. The military depends on close nonsexual relationships.

With the don’t ask don’t tell, at least they must keep their sexual preferences to themselves so that the others around them do not treat them differently nor do the gays feel they are being treated differently.

Can we afford all of the problems that will come with allowing gays ot openly serve in the military. The activists will be filing lawsuits claiming that their superior officers treated them badly just because they are gay. It won’t be long before they are demanding their own barracks, different bathrooms and dining halls, and wanting to be allowed to have sex with their “partners” on base etc etc etc.

How about the increased costs of health care. More STDS, 50% more likely to have drug and alcohol addictions, they are 50% more likely to have mental health issues. They will demand health insurance for their latest “partner”.


37 posted on 02/03/2010 6:21:46 PM PST by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: Fawn
Yes, I believe they are born gay.

Based on what scientific data?

38 posted on 02/03/2010 6:22:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: brytlea

Frankly, I don’t care why they do it. It’s none of my business unless they want to label it “marriage”, which is about pro-creation, IMHO.

I just think it has to be there from the start, that’s all. It is unimaginable otherwise.


39 posted on 02/03/2010 6:26:32 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Labyrinthos

That’s a lot of crap. If you read the articles, you should discover that (a) they were never alcoholics to begin with, but rather experimenting out of drug addiction, destitute, rebellion, etc. and/or (b), they are still attracted to alcohol, but fight the urge to act on that urge, even if that means being teetotaler or drinking Shirley Temple’s.


40 posted on 02/03/2010 6:29:55 PM PST by Raycpa
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