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Can a person be born gay/homosexual?
Examiner.com ^ | Feb. 3, 2010 | RĂ©ne Girard

Posted on 02/03/2010 5:29:33 PM PST by RGirard

There is a lot of controversy right now over homosexuals in the military, gay marriage, teaching children in school ... At the root of this issue is the question of whether or not it is a choice, or if a person can be born gay/homosexual.

In the book "If You Read Just One Book This Year ... " the author, who goes by the pen-name "An American Man," addresses this issue ... The author starts out with a humorous approach ... by comparing homosexuals to vegetables ...

He proceeds to address hate crimes and how television media plays a role.

"Many people in the media seem to forget that intelligent consumers want to understand both sides ... I want to know and understand WHY people are gay ... Even if you don't like or didn't expect the answers you receive, shouldn't the TRUTH actually BE important?"

American Man then discusses how we are "losing out because of manipulative, selfish agendas ... because there is "no genetic proof that anyone is born gay. However, does that mean that people are NOT born gay? No. .... just like stem cell research, and evolution, and the education system ... ...

The author points out that "Many people have come in and out of the lifestyle...

So if it's not a genetic thing, then what is it?

"Part of it is cultural sexual lust ... it is like a fad or a virus. Some people are more susceptible than others. And once infected ..."

What other reason(s) could there be? ... [ see article ]

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: disorders; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; marriage; psychology; sin
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1 posted on 02/03/2010 5:29:34 PM PST by RGirard
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To: RGirard

Of course they’re born that way.

I have nothing against men, but there is nothing about a man that arouses me. In fact, masculinity is an instant turn-off for me, even “manly” traits in women can have a negative effect in that department.

I don’t believe it could arouse a man unless he is wired for it.

Just my opinion.


2 posted on 02/03/2010 5:34:33 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: RGirard

Sometimes it’s wiring, sometimes a choice.


3 posted on 02/03/2010 5:35:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: RGirard

NO


4 posted on 02/03/2010 5:38:27 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Boucheau

That you were born normal doesn’t prove that the homosexuals were born gay.

Not every disorder is inborn. In fact, most aren’t.


5 posted on 02/03/2010 5:39:00 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: RGirard
Ex-gays do exist:

'Groundbreaking' study shows 'gays' can change
APA Has No Disagreement With the Treatment of Unwanted Homosexual Attraction
How a 'gay rights' leader became straight
Venus Magazine
Michael Glatze ‘Comes Out’ of Homosexuality: former ‘Young Gay America’ Magazine Co-founder
I Do Exist
People Can Change
Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences
Factors Contributing to the Development of Their Homosexual Feelings

6 posted on 02/03/2010 5:39:18 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: RGirard

We’re all born “that way” with a sin nature. Different sins will predominate with different people. The issue is whether you act on that sin or repent from it. The answer will determine your eternity.


7 posted on 02/03/2010 5:39:51 PM PST by circlecity
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To: RGirard
What science says:

What do clinical studies say?
NARTH Responds with 'Good Science and Demonstrable Clinical Experience' at the Annual Conference
"Homosexuality Is Not Hardwired," Dr. Francis S. Collins, Head Of The Human Genome Project
The Three Myths About Homosexuality
New Evidence Found for Childhood Family Factors Influencing Sexual Orientation
Environmental factors may influence sexual orientation
The Study The Media Ignored
How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth
Born or Bred? Science Does Not Support the Claim That Homosexuality is Genetic
The Importance of Twin Studies
The Gay Gene?
The Fading "Gay Gene"
The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science
The Gay Gene: Going, Going...Gone

8 posted on 02/03/2010 5:40:41 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: RGirard

I’m thinking “yes”. Most anyway. There may be some that like to appear gay
for the “fun” of it.

I think the cells have gone squirrelly. The difference between the sexes are very delicate. IMHO


9 posted on 02/03/2010 5:41:34 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS ... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Boucheau

For the most part, gays are born gay, just as I was born straight. However, there may be some gays and lesbians that elect such a lifestyle.


10 posted on 02/03/2010 5:42:52 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: RGirard
Can a person be born gay? Well, so far all the available evidence says no.

Is it complicated? Of course, but that only means it takes more than a cursory look at the evidence to understand the issues.

11 posted on 02/03/2010 5:43:26 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: annalex

“That you were born normal doesn’t prove that the homosexuals were born gay.”

There is no way that a man could be intimate with another man without a genetic component, or some sort of molestation or sexual abuse. No way.

You could drug me, beat me, threaten my life and I couldn’t follow through.

It’s wired, or indeed it is a mental disorder brought about by some horrific abuse.


12 posted on 02/03/2010 5:44:04 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau
It's cultural. All of it. It's the same thing that makes one put a disk into their lower lip:


13 posted on 02/03/2010 5:46:31 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
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To: RGirard
Your premise presumes there is no choice in the matter. A homosexual insists on claiming his anus is the same as a vagina. Any five year old knows that poop is nasty dangerous stuff and it is to be avoided. Homosexuals refuse the common knowledge that every five year old has learned.


14 posted on 02/03/2010 5:46:43 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: RGirard

No,but you are born with SATAN tappin’ on your shoulder .


15 posted on 02/03/2010 5:47:11 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: RGirard

Does it matter? You can be born with a disposition toward alcoholism. Does that mean it is morally correct and “being true to your identity” to drink your brain away and desert your family?

That said, I think homosexuality comes from a combination of genetic dispositions and environmental factors. There are probably genetic factors that make you more sensitive to certain things in your environment.


16 posted on 02/03/2010 5:47:27 PM PST by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: trumandogz

I believe most liberals believe some individuals are born gay.

I believe most liberals support abortion for any reason — it is a “right of privacy” for women.

If a “gay gene” is discovered, would liberals support a woman’s right of privacy in aborting for this reason? Just wondering........

(I love pointing out hypocrisy)


17 posted on 02/03/2010 5:48:01 PM PST by BelleAl
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To: RGirard
The source mentions the James Hartline report, something I haven't seen in a while. Here's a link:

http://www.jameshartline.com/

18 posted on 02/03/2010 5:48:01 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Boucheau

Again, you compare a disorder to your healthy self. That doesn’t prove anything.

Yes, past abuse is what often triggers homosexuality, but apparently not always.


19 posted on 02/03/2010 5:48:37 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
sometimes a choice

Why would anybody choose to be gay?

20 posted on 02/03/2010 5:50:57 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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