Not enough sex talk in churches or seminaries, report says

Austin American Statesman ^ | February 12, 2010 | Joshunda Sanders

[ComeUpHigher]

Gender and sexuality have caused divisions in the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion. Same-sex unions are upheld in some churches and not in others; the same is true for gay clergy. While there are more than 3,300 churches that affirm lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender congregants, 57 percent of Protestant clergy hardly ever discuss issues specific to the gay and lesbian community.

But according to "Sexuality and Religion 2020," a report released this week, they probably should.

The report was published by the Westport, Conn.-based Religious Institute, a national interfaith network of more than 5,000 clergy and religious leaders.

On Tuesday, the report's authors described a "disconnect between religion and sexuality in America" and called for churches, synagogues and seminaries to work on narrowing the divide between faith and sex in the next decade.

[DJ MacWoW]

All I need to know I learned from the Bible.

[Salvation]

From the point of view of Catholics -- this is an excellent guide on this subject.

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From book by the same name by Pope John Paul II.

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[knarf]

Three lies America bought into;

Never talk about politics, religion and sex.

So here we are ... 2010 ... and our problems are in which areas?

Politics, religion and sex.

[DJ MacWoW]

Did you go to the link and read the article?

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Actually, they're right. Congregations should be taught that men are supposed to be husbands and fathers (or celibate single men) and that women are meant to be wives and mothers, or celibate single women. They should be taught that homosexuality is a disorder, a psychological and spiritual illness, and is treatable, and that no one is born "gay". People should be taught that sexuality outside of marriage is wrong, harmful, degrading to the individuals involved, ruinous to the illegitimate children born by "accident", and the resultant broken families ruin society.

People should be taught that instant gratification and "if it feels good, do it" are not only completely ungodly but false philosophies that lead to personal despair, emptiness and misery. People should be taught that "as you sow, so shall you reap" is not a sectarian dogma, but an eternal law that applies to everyone, whether they "believe" it or not.

Yes, churches, synagogues, temples and all houses of worship of every denomination, sect and religion should teach the truth about sex.

[ThomasSawyer]

It took me less than 2 seconds after going to the website of the so called "Religious Institute", the organization responsible for the study mentioned in the article, to see what they are up to. Make no mistake: the Great Deceiver is at work in many of the churches in this country so that the lost hear what they want to hear and not what they need to hear.

[SnakeDoctor]

Mark Driscoll, a very conservative Calvinist preacher at a Seattle megachurch has done a recent sermon series on marital love and the Song of Solomon. It was a truly great series on the joys of sex in a Christian marriage ... or, as he calls it, “hot, hetero, covenental monogamy”.

The headonists have hijacked sexuality, and proliferated the lie that Christian marital monogamy is stuffy, lights-off, restricted, and only for procreation.

Its long past time for us Christians to start a PR movement for fantastic monogamous martial hetero sex.

SnakeDoc

[La Lydia]

Not what I am interested in hearing about at church. And I am not interested in any church that is obsessed with sex.

[knarf]

I didn’t until you asked ... so I did .... and ?

[DJ MacWoW]

Do you really think churches need sex ed on being inclusive?

[knarf]

4 chicks and a guy make up the staff.

[Nosterrex]

Sex seems to be nearly all that we do talk about in our society. As a pastor, it is impossible not to talk about sexual issues. It is NOT that we do not talk about human sexuality, but it is that we disagree about human sexuality. The premise of this article is that we are not talking about sexuality unless we accept and promote homosexuality and bisexuality as natural and normal sexuality.

[knarf]

I think you misunderstand my original comment.

I don't necesarily mean talk about this in church, rather .. not be silent within and as a society.

[DJ MacWoW]

Well the gays certainly aren't silent. But they are trying to silence churches that speak the truth.

This isn't because no one spoke up. It's because the homosexuals have made themselves look like victims.

[metmom]

What you said.....

[SuziQ]

Its long past time for us Christians to start a PR movement for fantastic monogamous martial hetero sex.

Or as my hubby is fond of saying, "And God made sex, and it was VERY good!" ;o)

[annalex]

they probably should

Of course they should. Good catch.

[Screaming_Gerbil]

It took me less than 2 seconds after going to the website of the so called "Religious Institute", the organization responsible for the study mentioned in the article, to see what they are up to.

I'll bet it was this pic that clued you in...

Anyway, in the report as described by the article http://www.statesman.com/news/local/not-enough-sex-talk-in-churches-or-seminaries-233513.html it seems they are criticizing churches for not doing enough for LGBT (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) persons, rather than saying that these churches don't talk enough about the sexual aspect of the husband/wife in a normal heterosexual marriage.

LGBT persons would be better off joining a church more freindly and accepting of them such as the MCC or Unitarian churches, rather than trying to get get the more conservative traditional-family oriented churches to accept them.

[max americana]

You should attend my parish here in Hollywood. Every other mass they make everyone feel guilty because we dont have “gay friends’ and that we should ‘have gay masses”.

Everytime it’s gay week, they show up in droves, If it’s NOT gay week, they are nowhere to be seen. In other words, gay first, Christian second.