Posted on 02/22/2010 10:17:55 AM PST by Between the Lines
From a false-flag site called “Just for Catholics”?
Please.
I understand the difference just fine. But “anti-Catholic hit piece” applies here.
The name of the site is not important, what is important is it is a well balanced article.
You wrote:
“You are the one that brought up the seat of moses as it was in support of tradition...”
Yep, and I was absolutely right.
“it was not, it was addressing the teaching of the law (scripture)”
Which they taught through tradition and interpreted through tradition and understood through tradition.
What did He do as He walked with the disciples after the resurrections?He expounded the scriptures.
1 Corinthians 4:6 “I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written…”
In YOUR OPINION. I disagree.
I already explained there was no such thing as a special " seat of Moses". It was a term used for teaching THE SCRIPTURES because when teaching the Pharisees sat down..not in a particular seat..they just sat down.. Christ referred it the "seat of Moses" because Moses was the writer of the law and a teacher of the Jews.. no tradition was being taught scripture was being taught except that which was already written by Moses . Christ told them to listen to the scripture and ignore everything else .
We are told not to go beyond what is written..
So are you saying that the article is anti-Catholic or the web site? The article seems well balanced to me.
Both.
Fine. We aren't.
“The apparent unity of the Roman Catholic Church is illusory, as any informed Catholic would know.”
Seems like there is a guy at the top who can fire clergy and ban memebers if he wants to. Seems pretty unified to me. I’m not seeing how that is “illusory”.
Freegards
Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. — 2 Thessalonians 2:15
The apparent unity of the Roman Catholic Church is illusory, as any informed Catholic would know. The unity is structural and organizational, but there are serious divisions at all levels, especially between the more liberal and conservative Catholics. Take the charismatic movement for an example. In Protestant circles, Charismatics form separate denominations (and so the distinction from other denominations is obvious). Whereas in the Catholic church, the charismatic groups remain under the Roman umbrella. Their differences from non-charismatic Catholics are hidden though they are just as real as in Protestant churches.
Very succint article and timely; kudos BTL!
The concise mistake is that we study God’s Word through the lens of “study bibles”, commentaries, creeds, constitutions and other regurgitated ideas “reknowned” believers have delivered and who knows where or what thier sources may have been.
We believe in the inerrancy, the inspiration, the authority, the superiority, and the sufficiency of the Scriptures. So why must we study through the filter of a theological cook book.
I believe our fast food lifestyles have influenced our spiritual nutritional needs. A theological happy meal each Lord’s Day will not sustain your growth and no amount of “christian” media will substitute for prayerfull study.
Throw out everthing other than your unscathed translation and your Greek-Hebrew lexicons. Remember you will be judged for every word that comes from your mouth and if all your toungue does is parrot tripe, inspect your heart!
Soli Deo Gloria!
Excluding the condescension, is the paragraph factually wrong?
Yea, the same as with "sola" Scriptura.
The reformers' appeal to "Scripture alone," however, was never intended to mean "me alone."
Maybe. But that's like arguing that Communism could really, really work this time. The wrong people were in charge all the other times.
In practice, with no visible Church authority, everyone is going by "me alone."
You wrote:
“I already explained there was no such thing as a special “ seat of Moses”. It was a term used for teaching THE SCRIPTURES because when teaching the Pharisees sat down..not in a particular seat..they just sat down..”
They taught the law - and that meant tradition not just scripture.
“Christ referred it the “seat of Moses” because Moses was the writer of the law and a teacher of the Jews.. no tradition was being taught scripture was being taught except that which was already written by Moses .”
No. If you were teaching the law, you were teaching tradition.
“Christ told them to listen to the scripture and ignore everything else .”
No. Christ told them to listen to what they taught and to not do what they did: “Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.” WHATEVER they tell you.
“We are told not to go beyond what is written..”
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1992/9208chap.asp
Therefore the traditions under discussion were Jewish traditions. They were not the pagan traditions of Nicea. Rabbi Paul and all the apostles were Jews
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
The Holy Spirit made sure that all the traditions we are to hold to are written down in scripture..not discovered 300 years later
Gal 1:6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we( as APOSTLES )or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
10Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Who’s hiding them? It sounds conspiratorial.
Like something the evil Vatican or magisterium would do. In fact, they are not “hidden” at all.
Lol. Amen. I once was blind, but now I see...
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