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Wartime Pope Has a Huge Fan: A Jewish Knight ("average schlemiel" defends Pius XII)
The New York Times ^ | March 7, 2010 | PAUL VITELLO

Posted on 03/08/2010 10:26:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

At home here on Long Island, he is Gary L. Krupp, medical equipment dealer, now retired after a career of ups and downs. He shares one car and a small house in a no-frills neighborhood with his wife, Meredith, and wryly describes himself as “an average schlemiel, just a Jewish kid from Queens.”

At the Vatican, he is known as Commendatore Gary Krupp, Knight Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of St. Gregory the Great. For short, the Swiss Guard and cardinals address him as “Your Excellency.”

It is a compelling tale in itself: ... he has emerged as the Vatican’s most outspoken Jewish ally in a heated debate at the crux of tensions between Roman Catholic and Jewish leaders and historians: whether Pope Pius XII, the pontiff during World War II, did as much as he could have to save Jews from the Holocaust.

Mr. Krupp, 62, has raised enough money through the Pave the Way Foundation, a nonprofit organization he founded in 2002, to travel the globe, hire researchers to scour historic documents, sponsor a three-day symposium in Rome and publish four editions of a glossy, illustrated volume of evidence supporting his view that Pius XII spared no effort to save the lives of persecuted Jews.

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“Listen to me: Pius XII was the greatest hero of World War II,” Mr. Krupp said recently. “He saved more Jews than Roosevelt, Churchill and all the rest of them combined. We should not let him be an issue between Catholics and Jews.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; History; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; holocaust; jewish; piusxii
A schlemiel after my own heart.

OK, class, discuss.

1 posted on 03/08/2010 10:26:22 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: SJackson

Ping


2 posted on 03/08/2010 10:36:06 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: IbJensen; sono; AnAmericanMother; SuziQ; decimon; trisham; Desdemona; Ultra Sonic 007; ...

Looks like the NYT is repenting. A little.


3 posted on 03/08/2010 10:36:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
...A Jewish Knight...

Now we need Monty Python.

4 posted on 03/08/2010 10:40:51 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

I feel dirty. This, btw is the money quote:

“Did you know Pius XII saved more than 860,000 Jews from the death camps?”


5 posted on 03/08/2010 10:46:20 AM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: decimon

...There’s a very small percentile,
Who enjoys a dancing gentile,
I’m sad to be the one with this bad news!
But never mind your swordplay,
You just won’t succeed on Broadway,
You just won’t succeed on Broadway,
If you don’t have any Jews!

Arthur, can you hear me?

To get along on Broadway,
To sing a song on Broadway,
To hit the top on Broadway and not lose,
I tell you, Arthur king,
There is one essential thing...
There simply must be, simply must be Jews.

There simply must be,
Arthur trust me,
Simply must be Jews.


6 posted on 03/08/2010 11:55:50 AM PST by mrreaganaut (What did the Buddha say to the hot-dog vendor? "Make me One with everything.")
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To: BenKenobi
“Did you know Pius XII saved more than 860,000 Jews from the death camps?”

That's pretty much the central fact of the matter, that the PiusXII haters just can't get around. Facts are such pesky little things ... always the bane of leftists.

7 posted on 03/08/2010 11:58:48 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer; Salvation; SunkenCiv; narses

Ping of interest regarding Pope Pius XII and one of his modern-day defenders.


8 posted on 03/08/2010 1:35:35 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bookmarking


9 posted on 03/08/2010 2:43:15 PM PST by Lorica
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To: Mrs. Don-o
RE: “Listen to me: Pius XII was the greatest hero of World War II,” Mr. Krupp said recently

The truth is totally irrelevant to those who are creating a false picture of Pius XII in an effort to besmirch the Church because they hate it. No amount of actual evidence will ever sway them because they need their fix of hatred to justify their self-importance.

10 posted on 03/08/2010 2:50:08 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; ..

Gary Krupp at his home in Long Beach, N.Y.


Gary Krupp and his wife, Meredith, flanking Pope Benedict XVI in 2008 at a symposium on Pius XII at Castel Gandolfo near Rome.

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


11 posted on 03/08/2010 3:27:09 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The NYT needs to reach back into its own archives. The Old Grey Lady had at least one editorial praising Pope Pius XII as the ONLY person speaking out against the Nazis and their treatment of Jews early on in the war.


12 posted on 03/08/2010 6:56:39 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Please feel free to ping me to any Pius XII threads. (If'n you don't mind).

I am a convinced Protestant, highly critical of Roman Catholic theology....
...And I think that Pius XII was one of the true heroes of World War II.

13 posted on 04/02/2010 7:49:22 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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