Posted on 03/22/2010 6:21:30 AM PDT by Gamecock
I obviously didn’t see that.
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Exactly right.
A Google search of freerepublic. com of "by Gamecock" comes up with 676 entries.
A Google search of freerepublic.com of "by Gamecock" AND "Catholic" comes up with 363 entries.
54% of all articles you've posted are anti-catholic.
Don't pretend you're something else.
Agreed. And I think this handful of posters has managed not only to alienate Catholics, but some of their more thoughtful, less vitriolic non-Catholic brethren.
Catholics have to get in line. The Protestants hate Mormons, Atheists, Jews, etc. etc. I think it is an inferiority complex.
As one of FR resident secularists, it’s a shame you see me as the enemy.
I’m not.
Oh, and come Easter, my 18 y/o daughter will be in full communion with the Catholic church. Her choice, with full support from her secularist dad (who will certainly be in attendance for the event).
God bless her! And God bless you too. :)
Don't take it the wrong way... there are lots of Protestants here who don't harbor anti-Catholic feelings. And there are a few Catholics who can be over-the-top too (and at times, admittedly, that has been me).
You'd think that, but if you did, apparently you would be wrong. The irrational hatred for the Church on the part of certain people on FR trumps everything else. It's sick, and it's sad, and it's not going to stop.
Bingo. It's irrational, and at times, maybe even diabolical (certainly that's the case for some anti-Catholics in the world at large). But the key is learning to pick battles wisely, and knowing when to let the other person's words stand on their own - when they've gone off the reservation entirely, the other FReepers and lurkers can generally tell.
Welcome to FR, by the way.
While some Protestants may hate Catholics, not all do. This is an issue that crosses the different denominations of Christianity.
Within the Protestant community there are roughly as many paedofiles as in the RCC (Roman Catholic Church - just a standard abreviation, no lessening or insult intended). However, having pointed out the parity in numbers, there is another problem that the RCC has that isn’t shared by Protestants and that is the Bishops. For most Protestant ministers there is no worldly authority above them and the sin is with them alone. In the RCC where a Bishop is aware of the problem with a priest then the Bishop will share in sin if he does nothing to stop it. The Bishop commits other sins when he covers it up (essentially conspiracy).
For too long the Bishops hid things and denied justice to the victims. Also it appears that quite often the Bishops worked together to hide things. The extremes of this conspiracy is what makes it stand out so much more than similar situations in other churches. To many it seems the Pope[s] have been aware for a very long time and chose to do nothing, which brings the whole church into question. This is just too big for any decent person to ignore and titillating enough to ensure that people pay attention.
Now let’s be fair. This problem isn’t limited to the RCC. It is a cancer inflicting itself upon all of Christianity [however, I do believe it is worse in the RCC]. The teachings of the RCC absolutely condemn such behaviour. The design of Pope - Cardinal - Bishop - Priest (yes I skipped a few) does not cause this behaviour, and should actually help keep it from occurring.
What can be done to keep this from happening? I honestly don’t know. This type of sickness is in the individuals. Only by making the RCC a place that won’t work for their desires we might have success. However, please remember that there is probably a significant number of Bishops that have this problem as well and how to deal with them is another problem all together.
I truly believe the unmarried clergy has given freaks a respectable place to hide among decent young men who seek to do God’s work. Perhaps this should be reviewed as this is a choice of the RCC. Eastern Catholics and Orthodox have a married clergy, but unmarried Bishops (and the unmarried Bishops are a source of embarrassment for these faiths, but a needed step to avoid nepotism)
The seminaries need to be cleaned out. The priesthood is for those that wish to be married to the church (or see paragraph above). Sexual deviancy should have immediate dismissal.
The parishes need to be cleaned out (although I do believe this is already being done). No mistresses, gay lovers or children.
Bishops need to be held accountable. If they faced jail time instead of recall to Rome, they might think about their actions ahead of time.
Please feel free to add to this list, especially those of the RCC as you suffer most when your church commits evil.
Please see my original post.
My problem is with “liberal secularists” (I was quite careful to include the word liberal). What you do with your own life is your own business. The kind of relationship that you want to have with God is between you and God.
When some liberal tries to force secularism on my children then I have issues.
No sir, I do not see conservative secularists as any kind of enemy because I know you respect individual rights. And I respect it right back. We will be allies against liberals, but we won’t discuss religion.
In other words, the Lord Actons are my friends, the Antonio Salazars are not.
As a secular humanist myself, I am in 100% agreement with this statement. There is no reason ANYONE should require your children to submit to a creed of any kind. Which is also why you should keep your children as far away of the public schools as possible.
The fact remains that, which the Church now tolerates Republicanism, its philosophy/world view is in conflict with the Classical Liberalism of the founding fathers, and the ideology of the RC should never be pushed as a GOVERNING IDEOLOGY of the nation as a whole. I hope that I have clarified my position for the RCers.
I would suggest your methodology is flawed.
I have been a member for well over ten years and have started over 1,000 threads. I would think I have more than “676 posts.”
So I did my own search on Google and here are the first 50 hits that came up:
-9 that had something to do with Rome.
-1 on PETA
-5 from my ongoing series titled Theological FAQs.
-19 dealing with various issues in the Protestant church. Many of which I would think Roman Catholics would have had fun chiming in on.
-The remainder were comments on other issues/topics elsewhere on FR, outside of the church to include air travel, space exploration and college football.
Hardly the picture you are painting.
There can be no denial that there have been priests who are guilty of doing evil. There can be, in all justice, a genuine concern about how the situation was handled by individual bishops.
There should also be recognition that the Catholic Church is actively seeking to acknowledge, address, and make the strictest possible efforts to prevent any further occurrences.
That should also be acknowledged.
Instead, what a small per cent of faux priests have done is being laid as a heavy cross on the shoulders of the overwhelming number of good and faithful priests. It’s tantamount to putting yellow armbands on every priest—”see, there goes a priest; he’s a pedophile.”
Some on this Forum have even posted that if a man wants to become a celibate priest, it “says something about him.”
That’s a hi-tech form of scapegoating an entire group of dedicated men because of the evil deeds of a small percentage of their number. It’s like branding the parents of a large family as “bad parents” if one of their children were to go wrong, even though the rest of the children did not.
Clearly, that does seem like an agenda.
The seminaries are already being cleaned out. I don’t have numbers in front of me, but the statistics show the majority of abuse cases to be prior to the last decade (or two?) Although even one case is too many, there are far fewer new cases reported. And I don’t think you’ll find a single freeper who doesn’t think all culpable priests and/or bishops should have their feet held to the legal and ecclesiastical fire.
And while we are seeing some really orthodox new priests, there is much work to do in the Church, because it is infiltrated with liberal theologians and laymen left over from the 50’s, 60s and 70’s.
More and more, I wish FR had a “place this user on your ignore list” filter.
LInks?
The most probable pedophiles in order are:
Fathers
Teachers
Coaches
Protestant ministers
Priests are way down on the list.
So if a Father is a teacher of mid-high history, coaches the girl’s basketball team and is a youth minister at his church on weekends/Sundays — watch out! He would be much more prone to pedophilia that any priest.
What a hoot. Here ya go sport:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=%22by+Gamecock%22&as_epq=Catholic&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=freerepublic.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
The list of articles you've posted include beauties like:
- Why Catholic churches are like shabby department stores
- Pope's brother says slapped pupils at choir school
- You Need A Holy Ghost Enema
THX.
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