Can It Be? (Testimony of a former Jehovah's Witness)

CE ^ | April 3, 2010 | Mary Kochan

[TypeZoNegative]

Ask your daughter if she feels comfortable about the JW heiarchy allowing convicted child molesters to do door to door ministries on unsuspecting homeowners. She’ll be baffled.

[TypeZoNegative]

Actually, they believe that a select group of 7 million JWs make up the 144K that go to heaven. The rest of them live forever on the earth.

[TypeZoNegative]

You forgot definitions 3-8 from that same dictionary.

3.the object of such devotion. 4.a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc. 5.Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols. 6.a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. 7.the members of such a religion or sect. 8.any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

6 and to a lesser extent 8 describe JW beliefs.

[plinyelder]

6.a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. 7.the members of such a religion or sect. 8.any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific. 6 and to a lesser extent 8 describe JW beliefs
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"a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."

There is a problem here, actually a few problems: Who does the considering here?
You,The Rev. Al Sharpton .. The Pope, Who?

"under the direction of a charismatic leader"
Again, this would fit in nicely with the Catholics and the Pope

On your number eight: "... treating human sickness...employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific" .. Other than the abstaining from the use of blood .. What other unorthodox or unscientific medical practices do the JW's engage in?

[plinyelder]

..with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
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If outside of conventional society is a Bad thing, would you please explain why? Actually .. Please just explain WHAT that means!?
Every JW that I know of ..live in homes and go to normal jobs just like you and I do.
They shop in the same markets and go to the same banks.

If they have compounds anywhere .. I'm not aware of any?

(Hey .. I can do red too) LOL

[TruthConquers]

I remember ‘studying’ with JW’s long ago, being raised an atheist, I didn’t know better.

Anyway, they believed that the 144,000 were special chosen from among their ‘church’, and at that time, the 144,000 ‘spots’ had been ‘taken’. This was late 1970’s early 1980’s. They also believed that when those 144,000 had died, the millennium age would come.

I was lucky I didn’t become a JW. I had known about an early prophecy of theirs, and asked for the ‘study book’ from that time. I found their prediction, and then knew that they weren’t true.

It much later that God convicted my heart and I accepted Christ.

[plinyelder]

We have a pastor here who calls them the “Jehovah’s False Witnesses.”
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Is that a part of his comedic routine or .. as I suspect .. He teaches derision as a defense against people who mean no harm.

[plinyelder]

So .. as in the days of Noah .. well, you get the idea.

[plinyelder]

Here my friend is a lesson in the history of the cross and it isn't even from the JW's!

The Cross

[plinyelder]

The evidence for its pagan origin is so convincing that The Catholic Encyclopedia admits that "the sign of the cross, represented in its simplest form by a crossing of two lines at right angles, greatly antedates, in both East and the West, the introduction of Christianity. It goes back to a very remote period of human civilization." It then continues and refers to the Tau cross of the pagan Egyptians, "In later times the Egyptian Christians (Copts), attracted by its form, and perhaps by its symbolism, adopted it as the emblem of the cross."

[plinyelder]

"Ask your daughter if she feels comfortable about the JW heiarchy allowing convicted child molesters to do door to door ministries on unsuspecting homeowners. She’ll be baffled."
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Since we are getting nasty here .. can I assume that you are not Catholic either?

[Quix]

If your assertion is that Dr Kennedy or Dr Martin deliberately organized their churches to bilk people out of money and to heavy handedly control their lives in a power-freaque tyrannical scheme . . .

then I won’t think much of your awareness of them, at all.

[Quix]

Yea for the faithfulness of the Hound of Heaven.

[Quix]

Some of my greatest destructiveness to others was in the midst of the most earnest efforts to do good instead of harm.

[investigateworld]

Seems Catholics, Protestants, Jews and others have developed great hospitals and Universities.

What have the JW's ever done?

(Though they do clean up after themselves after conventions.)

[toothfairy86]

I work with a woman who is JW. She is the receptionist in our dental office. When she was first hired, she started preaching to the patients in the waiting room. The boss quickly put a stop to that! A few days ago, her young daughter was going to a friend’s house for a few hours. I heard her on the phone, sternly warning her daughter not to eat anything with bunnies one it. LOL!

[Agamemnon]

I helped D. James Kennedy open his very first 'church' .. way back in the late 60's....

"Helped?" Did you, really? In what way exactly? Or were you just "there" at the time, perhaps?

IF that were such a bad thing then Dr Kennedy would have never been able to build his "Palace"....

What an odd way for anyone who claims to have known him to refer to Coral Ridge and to Dr. Kennedy in this way.

Dr. Kennedy was a family friend of ours for the better part of 35 years and all the way up to and until the time of his death I never once heard him refer to Coral Ridge as "his Palace."

Some regular "Kingdom Hall" attendee or JW "church" member might see the ranch-style prefab his group meets in as a drywalled "palace" of some sort or other, I suppose.

I'd rather doubt you were ever as personally close to Dr. Kennedy, as it appears that you are trying to represent, else you would know better the nature of both his spirit and his character than to have ever expressed yourself as you have chosen to do here.

Effective ministries will always have their "hangers-on," and maybe even a closet JW or two. And some will post to a forum like this occasionally using pseudonyms like "plinyelder."

[Agamemnon]

**BUMP**

FReegards!

[investigateworld]

Nail met hammer ;^0

[Sporaticus]

>By your comment you must not have respect for God

Yes you are holier and sit atop a much higher horse than I.
Why do you write like this?
Do you consider yourself an apologist?
Certainly my comment was not personal and actually written to ‘nobody’. Good day Holy One!